[HN Gopher] Unintended electromagnetic radiation from Starlink s...
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       Unintended electromagnetic radiation from Starlink satellites
        
       Author : Podgajski
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2024-01-03 18:26 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | transcriptase wrote:
       | Don't hold your breath on anyone doing anything about it.
       | Regulators wont even go after intentional interference.
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       | See: The guys in the southern U.S. running 10,000-100,000W AM
       | transmitters with dirty amps that splatter 6 CB channels at a
       | time across half the planet. And all they do is yell gibberish
       | and try to drown each other out 16 hours a day, making swathes of
       | the 11m band unusable when they get bored of 27.025 and start
       | moving to higher channels.
       | 
       | They've been doing it for 30-40 years, and people have been
       | complaining and reporting it the entire time.
        
         | rjbwork wrote:
         | Would like to read more about these menaces and the reasons for
         | the government's refusal. Do you have any articles or blogs or
         | even other comments you could link me to to read more about
         | this?
        
           | transcriptase wrote:
           | Google or YouTube CB Channel 6 Superbowl. At one point it was
           | sort of an unwritten rule that they kept to Channel 6, but
           | now you'll find them everywhere. Earlier today I observed one
           | of them completely saturating the part of 27 MHz reserved for
           | RC cars/planes/drones using my SDR... from Canada.
        
             | mwbajor wrote:
             | Your fellow canadian VE7KFM is one of the worst offenders:
             | 
             | https://ve7kfm.com/profiles.html
             | 
             | I've been yelled at by him before on 14.275, about 15 years
             | ago. He's still at it.
        
             | jjtheblunt wrote:
             | by saturating, do you mean they deliver so much power that
             | they effectively create a dynamic noise floor below which
             | normal users fall, and are thereby lost signals for most
             | receivers?
             | 
             | i don't have equipment to fiddle with but i'm fascinated,
             | and not shocked at the behavior.
        
         | mwbajor wrote:
         | Yes, but has a major purchaser of spectrum complained? No,
         | because its CB and they're not interfering with AM/FM
         | broadcast, first responders, aviation or cellular bands.
         | Therefore, nothing will get done and I doubt the FCC is even
         | monitoring it.
        
         | toomuchtodo wrote:
         | Could you use KiwiSDR to time difference of arrival
         | triangulate?
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CrKTm0wbRU
         | 
         | https://www.rtl-sdr.com/kiwisdr-tdoa-direction-finding-now-f...
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17414699 ("HN: Using
         | KiwiSDRs to locate HF radio transmitters and numbers stations")
        
           | kmbfjr wrote:
           | That may work as a starting point for groundwave, but
           | anything skywave is WILDLY inaccurate.
           | 
           | That "tool" needs to go away. Time and time again people get
           | accused of causing interference because their station falls
           | in the center of the heat map and the person using completely
           | fails to understand what it is they're seeing.
           | 
           | I was so annoyed at this going public that I pulled my Kiwi
           | off the internet. Nice experiment, interesting code problem
           | of synchronization, failure to let the public use it.
        
         | kmbfjr wrote:
         | Not buying they're running 100,000 watts, nor much over a few
         | kilowatts. Which, isn't in any way acceptable for a service
         | that limits AM to 5 watts.
         | 
         | Splatter isn't indicative of large amounts of power, just an RF
         | amplifier going very non-linear.
        
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