[HN Gopher] Fixing annoying blue standby lights
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       Fixing annoying blue standby lights
        
       Author : ghr
       Score  : 135 points
       Date   : 2024-01-01 09:55 UTC (13 hours ago)
        
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       | Baldbvrhunter wrote:
       | great hack
       | 
       | my pet peeve is flashing indicators, especially when it means
       | "all normal"
        
         | dmd wrote:
         | Looking at you, SuperMicro: Every other "normal" LED on our
         | server room is green. Theirs is amber.
        
           | tatersolid wrote:
           | We have some Cisco kit at one office all from the same
           | product line purchased at the same time. On the switches
           | "normal" link lights are green, but on the firewalls the
           | "normal" link lights are amber!
           | 
           | Our help desk gets a call about once a month from someone
           | reporting the "orange lights" which are visible through a
           | small window in a door.
        
           | CoastalCoder wrote:
           | That's evil.
        
         | nathancahill wrote:
         | How do you feel about the (more common in previous years)
         | flashing indicators for disk activity?
        
           | masklinn wrote:
           | It made sense when HDDs were universal, it provided a quick
           | check for a common cause of major slowdowns (you would then
           | go hunt for the source of the IO).
           | 
           | Also on most cases you can / could just not plug that header
           | in. Not an option for external drives tho.
        
             | chrismorgan wrote:
             | You didn't even need a light, you could _hear_ the disk.
        
               | kjkjadksj wrote:
               | Such a missing feature honestly. You could tell if the
               | program had actually crashed or if it was running still.
               | New macbooks should play drive noises through the
               | speakers like new Mercedes do with engine sounds.
        
               | progman32 wrote:
               | I'm actually thankful for the coil whine on my GPU
               | because I can tell if it's still running my compute
               | tasks. I've even started being able to pick up on
               | parameter misconfigurations based on the sound patterns.
        
           | porkbeer wrote:
           | They were amber, and quite dim. Just enough to notice if you
           | were looking.
        
         | jmisavage wrote:
         | The giant blue LED on the LaCie Little Big Disk is the most
         | annoying thing ever. It flickers on hard drive activity.
        
         | idontwantthis wrote:
         | God the worst is bluetooth headphones. Oh people would never
         | use these in the dark and especially not with other people
         | trying to sleep directly next to them.
        
           | xnzakg wrote:
           | I like the way Sony's wh1000xm4 deal with this issue. The LED
           | is inactive when you're wearing the headphones and wouldn't
           | see the LED anyway.
        
           | johnwalkr wrote:
           | They aren't needed at all. For pairing, they are kind of nice
           | to have, but why not put them in the earcups instead of
           | outside (at least for over-ear headphones)?
        
         | jameshart wrote:
         | Hotel room smoke detectors seem to be set up to flash at _just
         | slightly inconsistent_ frequencies.
        
       | dessant wrote:
       | LightDims solved the problem of bright and blinking status LEDs
       | in our home, they sell sticker sheets in various colors that dim
       | or completely block the light:
       | https://www.lightdims.com/store.htm
        
         | chrismorgan wrote:
         | Or just use some mostly-opaque tape, such as masking tape or
         | brown cellulose tape (which is what I remember using on one
         | obnoxious external hard drive many years ago) and add more
         | layers to dim it.
         | 
         | Or use a black permanent marker.
         | 
         | A great many households will already have one or the other of
         | these already.
         | 
         | But I presume that none of these would particularly serve the
         | purpose of the article, allowing infrared signals to pass
         | through. Can't say I've encountered the combination of a bright
         | LED and infrared receiver, myself.
        
           | dessant wrote:
           | Of course, but these are thinner and prettier because of the
           | pre-cut shapes.
        
           | rcarmo wrote:
           | I just use the marker. It's been the best solution all
           | around, especially since you can either dim or fully obscure
           | the LEDs.
        
           | masklinn wrote:
           | > Or use a black permanent marker.
           | 
           | I've a USB charger with a blue led so bright permanent marker
           | only dims it, even after several layers it still lights up
           | the room.
        
         | dgacmu wrote:
         | Seconded. I learned about these here a few years ago and have
         | gone through two packages of them. The ability to dim for
         | things you still want to kind of see is very nice, and as
         | another person noted, the pre-cut shapes are more attractive.
         | For example, I use them on the air filter level indicator where
         | I still want to be able to see what it set to but don't want it
         | lighting up the room much at night.
        
       | kwhitefoot wrote:
       | Hugged to death? Here is the Wayback version:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20240101100336/https://www.fullc...
        
       | dvh wrote:
       | I hate those blue retina blasters. Few years ago I bought USB
       | disk and when I connected it to PC it had nice white light.
       | Finally the blue LED fad is over, the white LED lights are the
       | new cool. A year passed and I had to buy new motherboard. When I
       | connected that same USB disk it suddenly light in bright blue
       | because I connected it to USB 3 port that the new motherboard
       | had.
        
       | mrweasel wrote:
       | Why is it that manufacturers go for blue or bright white LED
       | indicators? I assume that they are cheap enough that it doesn't
       | matter, but green would probably still be slightly cheaper.
       | 
       | We have a USB charger that cannot be used in a bedroom, not that
       | you should, but it can light up an entire room. Why not just have
       | a tiny green LED? Apple is really good about not using bright
       | LEDs in their product, or really any LED indicators (there might
       | still be one in the magsafe). So why is it that every cheap
       | random fly by night Chinese manufacturer feel the need to add a
       | tiny blue torch to their products?
        
         | masklinn wrote:
         | > We have a USB charger that cannot be used in a bedroom, not
         | that you should, but it can light up an entire room.
         | 
         | Had the same issue, thankfully a piece of black duct tape was
         | heavy enough to fix the issue. Really annoying to have a device
         | which is essentially unusable out of the box.
         | 
         | > Apple is really good about not using bright LEDs in their
         | product, or really any LED indicators (there might still be one
         | in the magsafe).
         | 
         | They do have an indicator led on the magsafe plug, which is
         | either amber or green, and is pretty bright but easy to unplug.
         | 
         | The old MBPs also used to have a white but pretty dimmed led
         | "breathing" during sleep, it was quite pretty unless you wanted
         | to sleep then it was annoying. If easy enough to put a thing in
         | front.
         | 
         | I also have a ugreen mini dock with a white led, no idea why.
         | It's a passive dock, if it's plugged in it's on, I don't need
         | to have a reminder.
        
           | wayvey wrote:
           | I think the latest MBP M1/2 also have it still.
        
         | Liftyee wrote:
         | Speculation: Perhaps they are trying to distinguish themselves
         | from the "cheaper" products by using the "new" blue LEDs? IIRC
         | the technology for them was figured out much later than green
         | or red, so maybe there is a bit of leftover "futuristic" feel
         | to them.
         | 
         | The last time I saw a blue room-illuminator was on an ancient
         | Belkin Bluetooth dongle. IMO the practice has gone out of style
         | with most name brands (including Apple).
        
           | _moof wrote:
           | It's basically this, yes. Blue LEDs were such a game-changer
           | that the inventor won a Nobel prize for it. When they became
           | cheap enough to use in consumer electronics, manufacturers
           | went absolutely nuts and put them in everything as a sort of
           | whiz-bang look-what-we-can-do thing. But since _everyone_ did
           | that, they stopped feeling distinctive almost immediately.
           | The only designers still using them for indicators are the
           | ones who can 't tell when a fad is over. They're still very
           | important technology for LED light bulbs; white LEDs are blue
           | LEDs with a yellow phosphor.
           | 
           | ETA: I'll add that it takes real time, effort, and crucially
           | taste to get an LED indicator to not be a retina-searing
           | nuisance. You have to be willing to devote time to getting it
           | right, and for someone just trying to pump out cheap units at
           | volume, that's not an easy sell.
        
             | cogwheel wrote:
             | I remember thinking the blue led on the PS2 was so cool
             | when it first came out.
        
               | _moof wrote:
               | I remember, it was extremely cool! 23 years later the
               | novelty has worn off a bit.
        
             | galangalalgol wrote:
             | Looking at flashlight runtimes on battery, it seems like
             | white LEDs (blue with a phosphor) or blue, are much more
             | efficient per lumen than any other color. Perhaps that
             | could be a reason as well? I'd generally prefer green and
             | red.
        
         | sandworm101 wrote:
         | Because a good number of customer service calls come from
         | people who have a device plugged into a dead outlet. The led at
         | least tells you the device is getting power. It can also
         | indicate whether any internal fuses/breakers have tripped. And
         | many manufacturers blink that one led for error codes and such.
         | They have a purpose, and can generally be blocked by any bit of
         | cheap tape.
        
           | XorNot wrote:
           | That doesn't explain why they're blue - which is a much
           | brighter and more intense LED color then green or red.
           | 
           | The craziest one is the subwoofer my parents bought for their
           | home theater - this is a device you would exclusively use in
           | a darkened room while watching movies...and it has a full
           | size eye-searing 3mm LED to indicate "power on" (it's been
           | electrical taped over for about a decade now).
        
             | throwaheyy wrote:
             | My theory is that blue lights stand out more in Amazon
             | search results.
        
         | crazygringo wrote:
         | I think blue just feels "modern". Red LEDs feel like they
         | belong to the 80's, and green to around 2000. While white feels
         | "clean".
         | 
         | I agree 1,000% that they're ridiculous though. But the colors
         | are definitely about achieving an up-to-date "look".
        
           | davidmurdoch wrote:
           | Blue just feels tacky and cheap to me. Maybe "modern" and
           | "cheap" are just the same thing.
        
             | ElongatedMusket wrote:
             | I think we are rounding another curve where the blue will
             | start to fade away and white will be the new color
        
         | TacticalCoder wrote:
         | > Why is it that manufacturers go for blue or bright white LED
         | indicators?
         | 
         | I don't know but I'm sure allergic to red. I don't understand
         | why _so_ many devices are using red for standby or even to
         | indicate work (I 'm looking at you Raspberry Pi).
         | 
         | To me red is "blood" and blood is "bad". Red means error.
         | 
         | Thankfully some devices, like ethernet switches, are using
         | proper colors: green for trafic, orange for "degraded" link
         | (say 100 Mbps on a gigabit switch). I look at the rack and
         | there are tens of LEDs and it's all blue, green, orange. That's
         | correct. Zero red. That's what I expect when everything is
         | working fine.
         | 
         | Orange for standby is acceptable, I guess.
         | 
         | I like blue. Maybe not bright blue but blue is way better than
         | red IMO.
         | 
         | If I see something red, it better be an error: alarm / motion
         | detector / garage door opened / whatever.
        
           | wkat4242 wrote:
           | Funny, I imagine you're pretty young?
           | 
           | For us oldies red is just the normal LED colour since in the
           | 80s this was the only colour that was available. Our alarm
           | clocks, microwave displays, indicator lights and even some
           | watches and calculators used red LEDs :)
        
           | dotancohen wrote:
           | For me red is pomegranates. A very happy colour.
           | 
           | I suppose that colour preferences may be cultural.
        
           | carlosjobim wrote:
           | Red doesn't bother the eyes in a dark environment.
        
             | trelane wrote:
             | It's not just bothersome; red is in the sweet spot of
             | visible but doesn't interfere with your night vision.
             | 
             | There's a reason lots of camping lights have a tree now,
             | and why astronomers use it exclusively while observing.
             | 
             | https://stellarium-labs.com/blog/nightmode/
        
         | cf100clunk wrote:
         | I would prefer that manufacturers use the traffic light colour
         | scheme:
         | 
         | * Red: stopped or off (preferably dimmed of completely off)
         | 
         | * Yellow/Amber: startup or error state in which the device
         | needs intervention
         | 
         | * Blue/Green: running properly
        
           | voakbasda wrote:
           | For battery powered devices, red should be "charging".
        
           | coryrc wrote:
           | You don't want to make things indistinguishable for the
           | color-blind.
        
         | trilbyglens wrote:
         | My guess is that next to zero actual thought goes into the
         | design and production of most items these days. Companies are
         | getting cheaply designed cad files and whacking them onto an
         | assembly line and shitting them out into a shipping container
         | bound for a nameless Amazon sellers page.
        
         | wkat4242 wrote:
         | Yeah my external HDD has a blue LED that's so ridiculously
         | bright it lights up the whole room and puts a really bright
         | blue spot on the other side of the room.
         | 
         | I tried covering it with a post it (several layers) and after a
         | month I noticed that the yellow colour had whitened completely
         | where the LED is. Probably contains an unhealthy level of UV as
         | well. Yuck.
         | 
         | I tried opening it up to replace the LED but it's clipped
         | somehow. Very hard to open without damaging it.
        
           | pineaux wrote:
           | I have good experience with drilling a small hole in the side
           | of the housing and through the LED. You need to aim well. Its
           | not a good technique for all annoying LEDs.
        
         | orenlindsey wrote:
         | The MagSafe cable still has an LED in it, it's green when
         | you're fully charged and orange when it's charging.
         | 
         | But I agree, Apple is good about not annoying you with LEDs.
        
         | hollerith wrote:
         | There was a time when industry did not know how to produce blue
         | or white LEDs, only red, orange, yellow and green ones, so you
         | see, red, orange, yellow or green LEDs are old tech, and
         | consequently not suitable for our magnificent product.
        
         | weinzierl wrote:
         | This is how I remember it: For some time LEDs were red, yellow
         | or green. Power LEDs were almost universally red. You can see
         | this on devices from the homecomputer era (Amigas, Ataris,
         | etc.). I'm not sure if red was chosen for technical reasons
         | (red LEDs have the lowest voltage drop), maybe economical
         | reasons or it was already a convention before LEDs became
         | available.
         | 
         | Anyway, when blue LEDs became feasible they were the epitome of
         | cool and every device had to have them. So in my opinion it was
         | a fashion trend that stuck.
        
         | saberworks wrote:
         | AppleTV 4k has super bright white led on the front (outwards to
         | user) while the device is on. So annoying!
        
       | flir wrote:
       | Quality Street were wrapped in opaque paper this year.
       | 
       | TP-Link's TL-WPA4220 powerline extenders (and presumably other
       | models) let you turn off the status LEDs in software (there
       | should be a list of hardware that lets you do this).
        
         | hindsightbias wrote:
         | When candy companies and tech companies collude we're really
         | doomed.
        
           | xattt wrote:
           | This is what they mean by chocolate chips.
        
         | Fluorescence wrote:
         | I wish they would remember the setting though. I have turned
         | their lights off multiple times but they are currently on. Any
         | blip in power supply (power cut, fuse trip, maintenance work)
         | and they come back so it's like trying to keep a tide at bay.
        
       | newsclues wrote:
       | Tape is cheap, removable and blocks light.
        
       | radar1310 wrote:
       | I've used lightdims for years. Great product to lesson the bright
       | lights.
        
       | mkj wrote:
       | Soldering a nicer coloured SMD LED over the top of the blue LED
       | works well. Most colours have a lower voltage drop, so the blue
       | doesn't glow at all.
       | 
       | Worked well for my pocketbeagle board which was annoying me, my
       | initial attempts a desoldering the blue one were unsuccessful (no
       | hot air), but a nice amber one in parallel worked great.
        
         | johnwalkr wrote:
         | For desoldering without hot air, "chip quik" products are
         | excellent. They make low melting point solder (like 60C). Add
         | some to each pad of the led, and they will stay liquid long
         | enough to remove the led with tweezers.
        
       | groestl wrote:
       | Had an USB charger once that would shine through one layer of
       | black electrical tape. Crazy.
        
         | encom wrote:
         | I bought a USB charger to plug into my cars cigarette lighter
         | plug. It lit up the whole cabin with blue light at night. This
         | blue cancer has existed since blue LEDs were invented and
         | immediately became a chinesium electronics favourite. Very
         | tiresome.
        
         | Fluorescence wrote:
         | The light on the end of a Dell laptop power adaptor is like
         | that. I tried multiple layers of electrical tape, colouring it
         | in with a sharpie and even painting over it and nope, that
         | bastard light cannot be dimmed.
         | 
         | My main complaint is when using the laptop in dark bed to read
         | ebooks and it is utterly blinding. I end up folding a bit of
         | duvet over the bloody thing.
        
           | arccy wrote:
           | i drop a towel over my laptop if i need to leave it charging
           | overnight
        
       | SanjayMehta wrote:
       | Had this problem with an air conditioner whose one blue LED was
       | bright enough to keep me awake.
       | 
       | Two layers of yellow tape changed the colour and dimmed it enough
       | to make it imperceptible.
        
         | Gare wrote:
         | Huh, all the ACs I've used so far did have a switch on the
         | remote to turn off all the lights.
        
           | imp0cat wrote:
           | Consider yourself lucky.
        
       | atticora wrote:
       | I recently bought an adjustable bed base which has USB ports on
       | both sides. Each port has a bright blue light that illuminates
       | the whole bedroom at night. I don't use them so covered both with
       | black electrical tape. Problem solved. I've had the same problem
       | with several desk lamps that lit up the world with that blue
       | light even when turned off. I returned a couple of those
       | immediately.
       | 
       | But I looked through the reviews for all of the above and the
       | issue wasn't even mentioned. I thought I was one of the few
       | weirdos that care. It's nice to read here that I'm not alone in
       | this. But we have to complain enough to make the manufacturers
       | care.
        
         | hollerith wrote:
         | You are definitely not the only one.
        
         | bdavbdav wrote:
         | I often wonder that when I use certain products. "How can this
         | obviously terrible design choice not be reflected in reviews?"
        
           | dqv wrote:
           | I think it comes up in at least some product reviews, but
           | where it's glaringly obvious, it doesn't show up in the
           | reviews _because_ people purposely look for products that
           | aren 't like that. Buying a TV for my bedroom, one aspect of
           | the search would include looking in the manual and seeing if
           | has a suppressible standby light or checking for a non-
           | aggressive standby light color.
           | 
           | An unrelated example is that, at Target stores in the US,
           | there are these (paper) notebooks/journals/diaries that have
           | writing on the front that label them as such. The designs are
           | really nice, but the labels make it ugly - as many people who
           | chose not to buy the product will say "why do I need it to
           | say journal on the front? I _know_ it 's a journal" and "I
           | don't want to use it as a journal... I want to use it as a
           | cookbook!" In this way, the reviews self-select only for
           | people who don't care about the labels.
           | 
           | They should really have antireviews where people can write
           | why they didn't buy the product. It would give sellers some
           | kind of signal that there's an issue with their product or
           | its documentation causing people to avoid it.
        
             | xapata wrote:
             | > some kind of signal
             | 
             | Low sales is a signal. Also, they can hire a UX researcher.
        
         | disillusioned wrote:
         | There's a brand on Amazon called LIGHT DIMS that sells
         | differently sized stickers, in both ultra-dim and full-blackout
         | forms, which do _exactly_ what they say on the tin, and it's
         | amazing.
         | 
         | I used the ultra-dim for the (white) temp display on my Dyson
         | fan in my bedroom, and the blackout for the brighter-than-the-
         | sun blue LED on my charger brick. Also used the dim one on a
         | smoke detector because my 5-year-old thought it was watching
         | her or something.
         | 
         | They're absolutely great, and you can even keep a couple in
         | your suitcase and fix horrible lights in hotel rooms or AirBNBs
         | if you're so inclined.
        
           | disillusioned wrote:
           | Not sure if you can post AMZN links here, but it's this
           | product and its cousin the blackout version:
           | https://amzn.to/3RGV3My
        
         | qwertox wrote:
         | I hate electrical tape. It becomes sticky after some time, when
         | it starts to smear because it got moved or stopped sticking to
         | the surface.
         | 
         | I bought a set of nail polish and use the black one to paint
         | over the LEDs, it even allows you to control how much you want
         | to cover it, in case you still want to have a bit of light to
         | see if it's on or off.
         | 
         | Other colors can be used to mark pins on breakout boards or
         | cables. It's really useful to have around.
        
           | MrBuddyCasino wrote:
           | > I hate electrical tape.
           | 
           | Same. I've used aluminum tape to block LEDs, works great.
        
         | globular-toast wrote:
         | Something similar: I recently bought a white noise machine for
         | sleeping (a short term fix for noise at night). It has a bright
         | blue LED that also lights up the whole room at night. You're
         | literally for sleeping and you're going to illuminate the whole
         | room with blue light?!
         | 
         | One of the Amazon reviews did mention this. But I always see
         | stupid bright LEDs that people haven't covered with tape so
         | there are probably people sleeping with these on at night.
        
       | AdrianB1 wrote:
       | 2 problems here: color and intensity.
       | 
       | 1. Color. Blue is more rare in nature than other colors and it
       | has a known association with daylight that is disturbing for
       | sleep. Why not something more neutral like orange (not red, not
       | green)?
       | 
       | 2. Intensity. I think the manufacturers don't even think about
       | this. For indoor use, full brightness makes no sese, but bad UX
       | is the default choice for most, what TV manufacturer pays
       | attention at their user experience with the standby led? I guess
       | they never think about it.
        
         | jjav wrote:
         | > Blue is more rare in nature than other colors
         | 
         | Since the sky and the ocean are blue, that suggests a majority
         | of visual field in nature contains blue in most cases.
        
           | wkat4242 wrote:
           | Yes but not the deep intense blue from most standby LEDs.
        
             | thejohnconway wrote:
             | Same could be said of green or red though. I think it's
             | time to stop repeating this just-so story.
        
               | wkat4242 wrote:
               | Hmm no but the intense deep blue is not good for the eyes
               | and can even damage the retina at intensity.
               | 
               | Green or red don't have this issue.
               | 
               | It also has a noticeably different refractory index which
               | is why red directly beside blue looks 'off'.
        
         | globular-toast wrote:
         | I think the blue is still considered "cool" perhaps precisely
         | because it's rare and it was the last LED colour to be
         | available cheaply. It seems to be a rather persistent trend,
         | though. In the UK a blue light on an electric kettle has been
         | standard for the past 15 years at this point. Red/orange and
         | green seem deeply uncool as they are associated with neons and
         | old LEDs that have been available basically forever at this
         | point.
        
       | Findecanor wrote:
       | I can not stand blue LEDs either. I have replaced them with white
       | LEDs when they haven't been surface-mounted. I also have my
       | computer equipment connected via an outlet with a power switch so
       | I can turn things off completely.
       | 
       | Yellow vinyl "headlight film" seems to have worked to make the
       | blue LEDs on Unicomp Model M green.[1] I didn't think that would
       | have worked, and I don't expect all film to be created equal with
       | regards to which wavelengths they let through.
       | 
       | [1]: https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=26454
        
       | user3939382 wrote:
       | They sell packs of various size stickers specifically for
       | blocking these lights on Amazon. They're very cheap and work
       | perfectly.
        
       | INTPenis wrote:
       | I got a Thermaltake Core Chassis back in 2019 and its blue LED
       | was so strong that the first time I took a nap on the couch in
       | that room I was awaken by it in my eye like a police flashlight.
       | It was super annoying, and unexpected.
       | 
       | I put some tape over it, fixed forever.
        
       | barnabee wrote:
       | Hotel rooms are the worst for unwanted LEDs! I now carry blackout
       | tape when I travel.
        
         | globular-toast wrote:
         | Yes. I've had to place objects in front of LEDs that can't be
         | disabled before. But there are smoke/heat detectors that
         | apparently need to blink all night and I wouldn't want to go
         | taping those up. I now wear an eye mask.
         | 
         | My favourite discovery, though, was in Spain. I started to
         | notice all the hotels were wired up with a separate consumer
         | unit per room. Me being me, I looked inside one and noticed
         | someone had simply flipped the switch on the emergency exit
         | sign to disable the green glow all night. Genius!
         | 
         | Unfortunately not all hotels have individual consumer units nor
         | do they put the exit sign on its own circuit.
        
       | Podgajski wrote:
       | And I'm wondering how much power is wasted by the literally
       | billions of these status indicating LEDs...
        
         | kjkjadksj wrote:
         | I wonder if all the gains from phasing out incandescents have
         | already been eaten alive from the probably 10000 leds that
         | appear in the wake of every dying bulb? There's an LED
         | billboard (the reef) in downtown LA you can plainly see from
         | Mt. Wilson 40 miles away. Throwing a stadiums worth of light
         | all night like that to show junk no one wants to see. And they
         | keep building more of these wastes of resources.
        
           | morsch wrote:
           | Here's a related term:
           | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox
           | 
           | I think my household lighting is still more efficient than
           | the incandescents we had when I was growing up. But there
           | sure is _more_ of it, in terms of fixtures as well as light
           | output.
        
           | chedabob wrote:
           | Yeah the energy consumption of even the small advertising
           | displays is insane.
           | 
           | https://www.theguardian.com/uk-
           | news/2022/jan/09/electronic-a...
        
       | vidarh wrote:
       | I just bought sheets of small stickers.
        
       | Groxx wrote:
       | Nail polish works just about everywhere too, lasts for years
       | (unlike electrical tape, which is excellent temporarily), and is
       | trivial to find. It can take a couple layers, but if you just
       | want to _dim_ it that can be a good thing.
       | 
       | (edit: though I have no idea if it'll let infrared through like
       | this post covers. I luckily haven't had any devices sharing IR
       | windows like that)
        
         | fantasybroker wrote:
         | That's a great tip! I bought an air purifier that has a very
         | bright blue light illuminating the entire room at night.
         | 
         | Now if only I can find a way to disable its annoying on/off
         | chimes.
        
           | Groxx wrote:
           | I've gotta find a way to stop the touch-sensitive controls on
           | mine from responding to cats o_o.
           | 
           | Because of course they're just on the flat top, where cats
           | like to climb and stand.
        
             | fantasybroker wrote:
             | A raised plexiglass shelf/cover, perhaps?
        
             | jstarfish wrote:
             | If you have the one I do (GE portable from Lowe's), just
             | put a traffic cone on it. Ugly but works.
             | 
             | I've tried the upside-down rolling chair mats and even
             | DIYed a barbed-wire mesh from chickenwire; nothing deters
             | them. It's a soothing place for them to sleep atop when
             | running.
             | 
             | Condensation forms under textbooks and other flat planks,
             | which will eventually short the controls as water pools on
             | top.
             | 
             | The only other thing that "worked" was having the exhaust
             | from a 1U rack server pointed at it. The heat initially
             | attracted them but when those fans kicked on, cat met
             | ceiling.
        
       | orenlindsey wrote:
       | You can't rely on colors to indicate status because someone might
       | be colorblind. That's an often overlooked problem. You have to
       | make the light do something special, like blink, if you really
       | need it to indicate something important.
        
         | porkbeer wrote:
         | Seems like optimizing for edge cases might not be the most
         | practical.
        
       | Scrapemist wrote:
       | Just yesterday I opened a USB charging station to rip out the
       | LED's. Don't want to mess around with tape. I also remove big
       | obnoxious logos with toothpaste.
        
         | cantSpellSober wrote:
         | Wow, someone else that is militant about removing LEDs AND
         | logos.
        
       | neilv wrote:
       | I haven't had the IR remote complication like the article, but
       | for too-bright-LED purposes, I use different colors of labelmaker
       | tape (Brother TZe type) for different cases:
       | 
       | * need blocking entirely (like on my LaserJet, and a UPS) --
       | black tape
       | 
       | * too bright, but still need to see, and to differentiate colors
       | (like on one of my living room servers) -- white tape, cut to
       | size with hole punch
       | 
       | * too bright for when i use it in dim lighting, and trying to
       | avoid blue light then (like the ThinkLight on my ThinkPad T520)
       | -- orange or red tape
       | 
       | Some of this tape, I would move to behind the bezels, if I had
       | the device open for service.
       | 
       | Black tape also good for covering up cameras on laptops. If I
       | sometimes use that camera, I make it a strip with a folded-over
       | pull tab, and when I temporarily remove it, I stick it poking up
       | from the top of the bezel as a reminder that the tape is off.
       | 
       | For "hole punch" Pixel cameras in the screen, a hole-punched bit
       | of labelmaker tape works, but IME falls off every few/several
       | months. Secondary purpose: when I have multiple phones, different
       | colors of labelmaker tape color-codes their identities on the
       | screen, to help avoid accidents. (Color-coded cases would be
       | better, but the case series I prefer only comes in black.)
        
         | voltaireodactyl wrote:
         | FWIW I bought a set of like 200 small dot stickers of diff
         | colors, barely opaque. They're perfect. You can stick em on and
         | use the color system you described. Like what teachers use for
         | small crafts and such.
        
           | neilv wrote:
           | That works. I use labelmaker tape because I love labelmakers,
           | and already have various colors of tape anyway. (White for
           | most, black for more discrete labeling on black electronics,
           | colors for color-coding things like employer-owned WFH
           | equipment, and for rare warning labels for certain IT
           | purposes.)
        
       | bluescrn wrote:
       | Black electrical tape was my solution for a Dell PSU for an
       | Alienware laptop, with a particularly obnoxious bright blue LED
       | on the power plug, it would practically illuminate a room while
       | the machine was powered off and just charging.
        
       | twic wrote:
       | I remember years ago i was over at a friend's place and ended up
       | crashing on the sofa in his living room overnight. Right in front
       | of his panoply of media and entertainment devices. When the room
       | lights were off it was like being in a planetarium.
        
       | gumby wrote:
       | > A free fix and you get to eat the chocolate. What could be
       | better?
       | 
       | We frame it the other way around in our lab: "The IR shield was
       | purchased from Amazon [footnote: item XYZ, which was delivered
       | with a free spectrometer]"
        
       | lazyeye wrote:
       | You can buy led light blocking stickers on amazon
       | 
       | https://www.amazon.com/s?k=led+light+blocking+stickers
        
       | pnathan wrote:
       | I will just dab some orange or red acrylic paint on and call it
       | good. No IR needs though.
       | 
       | A little hax but it works Adequately.
        
       | nyanpasu64 wrote:
       | I use 1-3 layers of Kapton tape to dim blue LEDs. Interestingly
       | it turns the painfully monochromatic blue light into a more
       | pleasant teal color with two or more layers, probably by blocking
       | out the blue peak more than the longer wavelengths.
        
       | ewams wrote:
       | Bought a Hisense tv for two reasons: status light turns OFF when
       | the TV is on, and there is a physical disable switch for the
       | microphone. Verified both in reviews and in person before buying.
       | 
       | Electrical tape for everything else.
        
         | porkbeer wrote:
         | I would rather my television not include a microphone at all.
         | But should they want to listen, they can always just use the
         | speakers as a mic.
        
       | jnsaff2 wrote:
       | Kapton tape.
        
       | JoshTriplett wrote:
       | I really appreciate that on my ThinkPad, I can _turn off_ most of
       | the LEDs: the power LED, and the LED on the back that dots the
       | 'i' in ThinkPad. However, annoyingly, there doesn't seem to be
       | any way to turn off the bright charging LED that's present when
       | the device is charging.
        
       | anonu wrote:
       | I've fixed this problem on 2 devices by snipping the LED off the
       | circuit board. Of course it might brick the device but in some
       | cases its worth the risk.
        
       | zh3 wrote:
       | PSA: black acrylic is opaque to visible light, but transparent to
       | IR - so a bit of that will nix the light but not the IR.
       | 
       | It's actually pretty interesting to look at the world with an IR
       | camera (e.g. Pi NoIR) - red wine looks like clear water, black
       | actrylic looks plate glass, black t-shirts appear pale.
        
       | powersnail wrote:
       | Edit: didn't read the article carefully enough.
        
         | cantSpellSober wrote:
         | > the same window for the blue light is also the window for the
         | remote control sensor so the black tape solution also disables
         | the remote control
        
       | kelahcim wrote:
       | It looks like there is this secret society working hard on making
       | people suffer in a hotel rooms after long trips. Blue TV
       | indicators, white and blue air condition panels, impossible to
       | cover LEDs that are attached to fire detectors.
       | 
       | All of that to make sure the room stays as bright as possible the
       | whole night. I am always impressed with the efficiency of these
       | little, bright, things. In terms of a brightness per cubic meter
       | efficiency.
        
       | emmelaich wrote:
       | A new phenomenon is for people to mark their driveway entrances
       | with little blue LEDs. (At least here in Sydney). It is very
       | annoying.
       | 
       | If they spread in popularity there definitely will be a backlash.
        
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