[HN Gopher] Bazzite - a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, livi...
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Bazzite - a SteamOS-like OCI image for desktop, living room, and
handheld PCs
Author : goncalossilva
Score : 352 points
Date : 2023-12-31 22:21 UTC (1 days ago)
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| brirec wrote:
| What's with the 0 in the title?
| evolve2k wrote:
| What's the motivation for the creators of this? And who's backing
| it? Doesn't feel like a weekend hobby project but rather a
| strategic open source play of some sort.
|
| Maybe something Nvidia related?
| brirec wrote:
| It's a variant of Universal Blue (https://universal-blue.org)
| KyleGospo wrote:
| Hi, I'm the original creator of this project. I'm happy to say
| the motivation is purely organic, we've no backing and have
| never received donations of any kind, project is totally out of
| pocket.
|
| Originally I wanted something akin to SteamOS that allowed
| packages to be installed and maintained through updates, and
| knew Fedora could offer that after using Silverblue for about a
| year, and it just kept evolving and growing from there.
|
| We just launched HDR in testing, and are working on custom
| kernel signing so we can move that to stable without breaking
| secure boot support.
|
| If you want to support us for the time being, all I can ask is
| that you give it a try and report any bugs you may find to us.
| The more users the better!
| janice1999 wrote:
| When you say "we" do you mean other members of the Fedora
| community? Do any of you work at RedHat? Just wondering how
| you got a complex project like this up and running.
| KyleGospo wrote:
| "We" is myself and two others that call ourselves
| maintainers, and the group at Universal Blue who brought us
| into their circle and shared knowledge. My personal repo at
| https://GitHub.com/KyleGospo/Bazzite is a time capsule of
| the project at it's beginning when it was only me.
|
| Universal blue has a ton of different people contributing
| to it, but there's no corporate backing there either.
| janice1999 wrote:
| Thanks for the info. Looks really interesting.
| bsimpson wrote:
| That explains why the name seems so off brand for
| Universal Blue.
| ParetoOptimal wrote:
| Do you know of NixOS and jovian NixOS? Did you consider
| either of those?
|
| I may compare them in detail in the future, any thoughts on
| how they compare?
| aliasxneo wrote:
| Similar premise, but not as technically reproducible. You
| can create and manage your own custom images using the
| blue-os build systems, it's dead simple. Basically you're
| just writing a Dockerfile. Most of the filesystem is read-
| only like NixOS, but it acts like a traditional Linux
| system with FHS support.
|
| It's that last part that made me switch to it from NixOS. I
| was tired of random things not working because of Nix's
| opinions on how things should work. I run Bluefin Linux
| with Fleek and get all the benefits I liked about Nix with
| none of the nonsense.
| ParetoOptimal wrote:
| Thanks for the detailed response. I'll have to take a
| look.
| KyleGospo wrote:
| I'm not well versed in NixOS, but the team over at Jovian
| are all very helpful and are running a great project.
| ParetoOptimal wrote:
| No problem, thanks for the response! You have a very
| impressive project as well. Even if I don't switch there
| is a ton of generally useful things to learn from.
| attentive wrote:
| Hi, it's probably not your focus, but since you have Nvidia
| specific flavors, it would be great if browsers had hardware
| video decoding working. Either Firefox or chromium/brave. I
| did a fair bit of distrohopping and yet to find a distro
| doing that easily for nvidia native drivers.
| KyleGospo wrote:
| This should be working on AMD, Nvidia, and Intel. At most
| you may need to make minor configuration changes which we
| document in our wiki.
| attentive wrote:
| That was my hope but it doesn't work on bazzite-gnome-
| nvidia. I believe I tried bazzite-nvidia as well but it's
| been a while. Mind pointing me to a relevant doc? - it's
| not googleable.
| KyleGospo wrote:
| https://universal-blue.org/images/nvidia/#video-playback
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| > Bazzite is an OCI image that serves as an alternative operating
| system for the Steam Deck
|
| I'm not quite following - this is a host OS that runs things in
| containers, or the OS inside a container?
| gclawes wrote:
| Fedora's OSTree recently-ish started supporting using OCI
| containers as the content-addressed image backend in addition
| to their original git-like one:
|
| https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/container/
| https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainer...
| curt15 wrote:
| Are OCI images content-addressed?
| justincormack wrote:
| Yes
| pixelatedindex wrote:
| What does content-addressed mean?
| gclawes wrote:
| The identifier for the content (image layers + manifest)
| is the hash of the content, and the has serves as an
| "address", the registry repo + tag is basically a pointer
| to a hash.
| jcastro wrote:
| The OS is delivered to you via a container (via the github
| registry), but can also run things in containers.
|
| The OS itself is run on the bare metal.
| freetonik wrote:
| Slightly related, but just today I discovered this SteamOS
| redistribution for generic machines (as long as they don't have
| Nvidia graphics): https://github.com/HoloISO/holoiso
| dicknuckle wrote:
| https://chimeraos.org/ I've been using this one, it updates the
| system atomically.
| 542458 wrote:
| Okay, so I read that page and I understand that nvidia graphics
| are very much a no-go for that distribution. I'm just wondering
| why? Full disclosure, I know very little about the finer points
| of GPU compatibility on Linux, but why isn't it just a matter
| of installing nvidia's closed source packages?
| SushiHippie wrote:
| IIUC As the SteamDeck does only use AMD GPUs they have no
| incentive to support their UI on Nvidia GPUs.
| scheeseman486 wrote:
| Gamescope leans on Wayland features that the Nvidia
| proprietary driver either doesn't have support for or only
| preliminary support. It's on Nvidia to catch up. It's not
| about incentives for Valve, they can't change the driver
| themselves.
|
| Proton has received patches for Nvidia support in
| particular, some from Nvidia themselves.
| LoveMortuus wrote:
| This video (it's just a clip of the original) might give you
| a bit of context:
|
| Title: Linus Torvalds: Nvidia, F** You! Duration: 0:39
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ
| sapphicsnail wrote:
| I'm competing with this for the attention of my girlfriend and
| losing.
| johnchristopher wrote:
| Oooh, looks cool ! I was just googling for something like "pc
| with steamdeck like specs" because I don't need the portability,
| I can't stand fan noise but I'd like Steam's ease of use. Now
| there is a path to a "normal"/quiet/dedicated PC to easily run
| games. But I suppose there won't be optimizations for any
| combinations of GPU/CPU/RAM like Valve and AMD do for the
| Steamdeck ?
|
| Also:
|
| > - Comes with patches from SteamOS BTRFS for full BTRFS support
| for the SD card by default.
|
| Interesting, what advantages does BTRFS bring in gaming/steamdeck
| scenarios ?
|
| edit: juste read on https://gitlab.com/popsulfr/steamos-btrfs:
|
| > Btrfs with its transparent compression and deduplication
| capabilities can achieve impressive storage gains but also
| improve loading times because of less data being read. It also
| supports instant snapshotting which is very useful to roll back
| to a previous state.
|
| I guess it's for easier rollbacks on the system _and_ maybe
| rollback different versions of the same game ?
| KyleGospo wrote:
| Fedora actually defaults to BTRFS, in the case of SteamOS the
| system is BTRFS out of the box, and only home and the SD card
| are ext4.
|
| Main benefits are compression, and increased read speeds from
| compressed drives, especially from the MicroSD.
|
| BTRFS de-duplication also solves the issue of wine prefixes
| with similar dependencies taking up more space than needed.
| xvector wrote:
| Why is it not the default? Compatibility issues with Windows
| games somehow?
| xyproto wrote:
| BTRFS is probably mature and stable by now, but it's been a
| rocky road with several premature declarations of maturity.
| KyleGospo wrote:
| I can only speculate Valve's reasoning, but there are a
| very select few games that require actual case folding and
| not the simulated case folding that wine offers. I know of
| literally only one.
| freedomben wrote:
| Can you help me with some searchable terms for learning
| about case folding? Is that something specific to games?
| Specific to disk formats?
| KyleGospo wrote:
| It's a file system feature, all it means to be case
| folding is that capital and non-capital letters are
| treated the same, as NTFS does.
|
| All Linux filesystems will by default allow "TEST" and
| "test" and "Test" to exist in the same folder, which no
| Windows application is ever intended to handle. Wine
| works around this by default.
| anticensor wrote:
| NTFS is also case sensitive, however case folding is done
| at search time according to default windows settings.
|
| Windows apps are expected to handle case sensitivity
| gracefully in non-FAT filesystems.
| nephyrin wrote:
| SteamOS dev here - lack of case folding is one (but
| solvable, we supported development on native case folding
| for ext4), but general stability issues are the main
| concern. Our testing with btrfs has not been promising
| for deploying it in a zero-maintenance manner to many
| users and finnicky SD cards and have it Just Work, but
| we're keeping an eye on things and weighing where we
| could contribute.
| jonny_eh wrote:
| Is there a way for adventurous users to opt into using
| BTRFS on SD cards?
| KyleGospo wrote:
| https://gitlab.com/popsulfr/steamos-btrfs
| bsimpson wrote:
| Have you done any performance testing with btrfs
| compression?
|
| I have a Legion Go. I don't have the specs handy now, but
| the SSD was rated fast enough that I suspected
| compression would harm my overall performance.
| tw04 wrote:
| Copy-on-write filesystems are inherently better for flash media
| because they never overwrite in place. They always allocate a
| new block and mark the "old" block freed when it is no longer
| referenced by the active filesystem (or snapshots if
| supported).
|
| Flash Media _HATES_ overwriting data in place because it
| requires the block to be freed, then re-written.
|
| Now, modern flash firmware tries its best to allocate new
| blocks anyway, so some of it is a wash, but it is overall a
| better way to write to flash media.
| attentive wrote:
| compression is good, checksums are good.
|
| It's a shame other FS's don't have it.
| jeroenhd wrote:
| I use BTRFS with compression because my SD card is old (like, a
| decade old) and slow. (De)ompressing the assets takes a bit of
| CPU time but the slow I/O is noticeably faster because of it.
|
| Deduplication can be useful if you store the Proton/Wine
| runtimes on the same disk. Different games may need different
| runtimes, the latest version isn't always the best, and a Wine
| environment without any games inside of it can take up a couple
| hundred megabytes just for DLLs and other common dependencies.
| Deduplicating can save a chunk of wasted storage, although with
| current flash storage prices that's probably not worth worrying
| about in practice.
|
| Some people like the checksumming but IMO that's not all that
| useful without ECC memory.
| jcastro wrote:
| > But I suppose there won't be optimizations for any
| combinations of GPU/CPU/RAM like Valve and AMD do for the
| Steamdeck?
|
| I run a homegrown gaming htpc with an R5-5600, Radeon 6800XT,
| and then the Xbox wireless dongle and 4 Xbone controllers with
| Bazzite.
|
| You'd be surprised at how much of heavy lifting is done by the
| kernel and mesa stacks, that's where the real work is done.
| Fedora does a good job pulling in kernel and mesa updates
| relatively quickly and the steam client handles the proton
| updates.
|
| There's also great synergy between Bazzite, ChimeraOS, and
| Nobara, which are all gaming focused distros. Lots of code
| sharing and teamwork happening there, which is awesome to see.
| Everything is open for people to hack on.
|
| It acts like a big steamdeck, all the performance overlays
| work, all the xbox controllers work ootb, fsr works, etc. - you
| do need to pair the controllers with each controller but that's
| a one time thing. I've personally completed God of War, Horizon
| Zero Dawn, Baldur's Gate 3 and other AAA campaigns in 4k. And
| then when I need to travel all my game progress is on my deck.
| It's a full multi device experience.
|
| But to set expectations: VR and multiplayer games that don't
| opt into EAC or use kernel-level anti cheat are a no-op, as
| well as anything Epic makes. To me it's just like any console
| platform, you get lots of games, and some games you can't play.
| At this stage in the game both Windows and Linux suffer from
| the same UX shit show, horrible third party launchers are the
| worst problem with either set up.
|
| Disclaimer: I'm involved in universal blue but don't directly
| contribute to bazzite.
| happymellon wrote:
| I've also built myself an HTPC for gaming on, and it works
| amazing since Valve gave us the Steam OS 3 UI.
|
| However I did it a while ago and went down the HoloISO route.
| Would you recommend that I switch out for something like
| Bazzite, or are the benefits good but not *that* good that
| I'd have to spend a day reinstalling all my games?
| jcastro wrote:
| I ran chimeraOS for years and it worked fine, I switched to
| dogfood more than anything else. If your system is working
| there's no reason to mess with it.
| happymellon wrote:
| Awesome, cheers!
| bsimpson wrote:
| Interesting that you don't contribute to Bazzite - your name
| is the only one I associate with it, because I've seen your
| YouTube videos.
| bhewes wrote:
| Totally off point, but as a gardener and systems builder, I
| love phrase "homegrown gaming htpc" gives it a sense of
| organically growing over time.
| KyleGospo wrote:
| > But I suppose there won't be optimizations for any
| combinations of GPU/CPU/RAM like Valve and AMD do for the
| Steamdeck ?
|
| Every single one of these should be present, along with our own
| tweaks and changes made upstream at Fedora.
| freedomben wrote:
| Glad to see this finally up here. I posted it a couple weeks ago
| and was shocked that I hadn't heard of it sooner. I expected it
| to rocket to the top, but instead it just languished
| (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38642298).
|
| I've been blown away by Bazzite. I haven't yet (so far at least)
| run into any downsides of being on Bazzite instead of SteamOS,
| yet have had numerous upsides. I've wanted my Decks to be on my
| tailnet for a long time, but that was not an easy proposition.
| There's numerous packages that don't flatpak well that I've
| wanted to install into my base OS but haven't been able to until
| now! An example, I use Remote Play to run the games on my beastly
| desktop while viewing them on my TV. Something I routinely do is
| SSH into the host machine and run htop in one tmux pane and nvtop
| (for my AMD card, yes it works great with AMD now!) in another
| pane. To me this feels like the difference between driving with a
| speedometer and tachometer vs. driving without. Such a simple
| thing, so hard to do with Steam OS, yet so easy with Bazzite.
| ParetoOptimal wrote:
| I also have my steam deck on my tailnet via
| `services.tailscale.enable = true` on NixOS.
|
| I might have to do a comparison of NixOS and bazzite since
| bazzite has me curious.
| Cloudef wrote:
| Here is my "steamdeck os" https://github.com/Cloudef/nixos-
| flake/blob/master/modules/s...
| bsimpson wrote:
| extest is in a nixpkgs PR and SteamOS is packaged by
| Jovian. Any reason you're doing it all manually?
| sweeter wrote:
| JovianOS is also similar to Bazzite, ChimeraOS and SteamOS
| but its based on Nix.
| otikik wrote:
| I can't find anything online about this one (Jovian). Do
| you have a link at hand? Happy new year!
| KyleGospo wrote:
| https://github.com/Jovian-Experiments/Jovian-NixOS
| bsimpson wrote:
| I wasn't sure whether to start with Bazzite or Jovian
| (NixOS), but I started with Jovian and haven't looked back.
|
| I'd be curious to know what you find.
| westurner wrote:
| TIL about various things for rpm-ostree distros:
|
| gnome-randr-rust: https://github.com/maxwellainatchi/gnome-randr-
| rust :
|
| > _`xrandr` for Gnome /wayland, on distros that don't support
| `wlr-randr`_
|
| Kernel-fsync:
| https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/sentry/kernel-fsync/
|
| gnome-vrr:
| https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kylegospo/gnome-vrr/ :
| gsettings set org.gnome.mutter experimental-features "['variable-
| refresh-rate']"
|
| obs-vkcapture:
| https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kylegospo/obs-vkcapt...
|
| system76-scheduler:
| https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kylegospo/system76-s...
| sebazzz wrote:
| How does this compare to Winesapos?
| attentive wrote:
| 10Gb of "everything is a Flatpak" isn't exciting.
| KyleGospo wrote:
| The only flatpaks here are ones installed by the user after
| setup, or ones installed by Fedora (Firefox for instance, you
| don't want your browser updating only when your OS does).
|
| Steam, gamescope, and nearly every other listed feature are
| native packages.
| attentive wrote:
| Brand new first boot Bazzite Gnome. That's 7Gb of flatpaks.
| $ flatpak list --columns=size,name | grep MB| grep -Po
| '\d+\.\d+'| paste -sd+ | bc 7025.2 $ flatpak
| list --columns=size,name | wc -l 54 $ df -h
| / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
| /dev/sda3 232G 15G 214G 7% /
| nicknamename wrote:
| The GNOME images have more Flatpaks preinstalled than the
| KDE Plasma images currently.
|
| KDE image Flatpaks: https://github.com/ublue-
| os/bazzite/blob/main/system_files/d...
|
| vs.
|
| GNOME image Flatpaks: https://github.com/ublue-
| os/bazzite/blob/main/system_files/d...
|
| If you're looking to save a few gigabytes, then I suggest
| using the KDE variants.
| westurner wrote:
| What could be merged into Fedora and e.g. Gnome?
| stavros wrote:
| This looks interesting, but what do I lose by switching to it?
| Does the Steam interface still work? The hardware? The games?
| JustinGarrison wrote:
| Yep! Everything works as it does with SteamOS but better (more
| fixes) and a better desktop environment.
|
| Installation is pretty quick too! Here's a video I made showing
| the process https://youtu.be/doQW1FyAISQ
| stavros wrote:
| This is great, thank you!
| tavavex wrote:
| Makes me wonder - how viable is it to install actual SteamOS on
| devices that aren't the Steam Deck (and use the Deck UI and all)?
| Are there any mods or something to make that work?
| bsimpson wrote:
| The Deck UI is two parts: the Steam client in Big Picture Mode
| (which is most of the Steam Deck UI and runs on Mac and Windows
| as well), and the gamescope compositor. Gamescope is open
| source and Steam is available for download on Linux.
|
| You could run any of the replacement Steam Deck OSes
| (Jovian/NixOS, Bazzite, Chimera...) and get a UI that's
| identical to what's on the Steam Deck, down to the "Deck
| Verified" badges and sidebar sliders that may not work on your
| machine. They're all essentially running the Steam Deck UI atop
| whatever distribution each one chose.
|
| I'm not sure you'd want the literal Steam Deck image on your
| machine. It's an older kernel with a bunch of patches that
| expect the SD's hardware. But if you want to explore that more,
| there was an excellent article on the front page this morning
| about building your own clone of Steam OS.
| erulabs wrote:
| Love it! Living-room media servers will be the Trojan horse that
| brings self-hosting back into existence, and will inevitably
| transform the internet back into a more peer-to-peer oriented
| existence. Once most folks have symmetrical connections and
| powerful Linux systems, it's only a software problem keeping
| people from using the internet as it was intended, equally
| publishers as they are consumers.
| heyoni wrote:
| I love this take and absolutely hate what the centralized
| internet has become. My god, even basic searches don't work on
| major platforms.
| Takennickname wrote:
| Never thought about it like that. Very possible.
| sirspacey wrote:
| The Roku of the internet, I love this idea so much.
| mikepurvis wrote:
| I've tried at several points to roll my own media center
| PC/server setup and it's always been a very far cry from what
| the fire stick does for like a tenth the price and zero effort.
|
| So yeah, I'm very keen for something plug and play in this
| space.
| stavros wrote:
| This is probably a bit too custom, but I did the same, and it
| works really well after it's set up. Plex/Jellyfin just works
| for everyone (you do need to use the app, because I disabled
| transcoding).
|
| I have a repo that uses a Harbormaster (a Comppse-based
| deployment tool I wrote,
| https://harbormaster.readthedocs.io/) to set everything up
| and keep it up to date, so all you need to do is run the
| Harbormaster container, point it to the above repo config,
| and the apps will run. Then, you just need to configure each
| app, but the directories will be set up properly.
|
| It's a bit of work, but probably not as intimidating as it
| sounds.
|
| https://github.com/skorokithakis/mediacenter-in-a-box/
| buran77 wrote:
| > you do need to use the app, because I disabled
| transcoding
|
| You can use Plex as a DLNA server together with a DLNA
| client (like players built into most TVs), so Direct Play
| and Direct Streaming should work just the same.
| stavros wrote:
| It's not running locally, sadly, but the Plex app somehow
| also supports more codecs, so I've found it's generally
| better.
| mikepurvis wrote:
| I tried DLNA served from iTunes and Jellyfin and fiber
| there player experiences mostly pretty terrible-- hard to
| browse, seeking was bad, UI ugly, etc.
| danr4 wrote:
| Piracy is super evil and I would never and have never pirated
| anything in my life. but I do know that Stremio + Torrentio +
| RealDebrid takes at max 30 minutes to set up and for a few
| bucks you can essentially stream everything in higher quality
| than most streaming platforms, it works great on a google tv
| chromecast (a friend told me).
| CharlesW wrote:
| > _Living-room media servers will be the Trojan horse that
| brings self-hosting back into existence..._
|
| I had a living-room media server for many years. My
| recommendation: Don't put a media server in your living room.
|
| Instead, get a tiny, quiet, privacy-respecting client (e.g.
| Apple TV) and put the media on a NAS that lives elsewhere.
| Depending on your preferred client UX, you may (Plex) or may
| not (Infuse) need a separate app to serve the media.
|
| Whether the server lives in your living room or office/homelab
| doesn't really matter in terms of its effect on the popularity
| of "self-hosting". If anything, local media library management
| is likely to become less popular, and any "Trojan horse" effect
| has happened by now since people have been doing this for a
| couple of decades.
| Apocryphon wrote:
| Behold: Bazzite on the trash can Mac Pro!
|
| https://youtu.be/te1AEj_RA64
| figmert wrote:
| Any one know if there is a reason _not_ to install this on my SD?
| The Waydroid installation is very interesting. How well does it
| work? Would you consider this a bit bloated?
| SubiculumCode wrote:
| I decided to ditch windows. Installed Budgie, and I installed
| Steam.
|
| What is the advantage of Steam OS or Bazzite over Ubuntu variant
| + Steam?
| bsimpson wrote:
| Gamescope, the compositor used on the Steam Deck variants, is
| optimized for gaming. It can do things like integer scaling, so
| your game is always fullscreen regardless of what resolution it
| renders to.
| jabbequbs wrote:
| What does OCI mean in this context? My best guess is Oracle Cloud
| Infrastructure, but that doesn't seem right...
| mkotowski wrote:
| I guess this refers to OCI image format from Open Container
| Initiative: https://opencontainers.org/
|
| Here is Containerfile from the repo: https://github.com/ublue-
| os/bazzite/blob/main/Containerfile
| tmountain wrote:
| It refers to the OCI image format. Think of git for your base
| operating system. The host system is immutable with full
| support for easy rollbacks. Stable installs can be pinned
| permanently for maximum stability. Software installs happen in
| user space, typically via flatpack and distrobox, so you can
| reach for any packages you want with minimal fuss. It's pretty
| great.
| puchatek wrote:
| Could this replace a media center like Kodi for playing music and
| movies or is it just for games?
| b3nji wrote:
| > Could this replace a media center like Kodi for playing music
| and movies or is it just for games?
|
| I would like to know this too.
| KyleGospo wrote:
| Kodi could for sure be installed on this, we're open to any
| suggestions that make that task easier for you as well.
| Geisterde wrote:
| Ill take this as an opportunity to explore fedora (i guess?), ive
| been using ubuntu for ~2 years and am ready for a change. This
| looks like it has a lot of what I would want built in, im not
| tech savvy enough to get some of this stuff working.
| deng wrote:
| Can anyone report how well this would work on a pure touch device
| (tablet)? I have a Thinkpad X1 Tablet (gen3) and am still looking
| for the best Linux distribution to work with it as a plain
| tablet, without the keyboard attached. Plain Fedora has some very
| annoying bugs with the on-screen keyboard. Installing the Phosh
| extension fixed most of these, but this introduces other annoying
| things that make it tedious to use. Also, the disk encryption
| still requires to attach a keyboard at boot, since Grub does not
| feature an on-screen keyboard, so I'm wondering how this was
| solved here.
| robinwassen wrote:
| Not sure if you are to do any super sensitive work on the
| tablet or not.
|
| But a home folder encryption rather than full disk might solve
| the touch input problem.
| KyleGospo wrote:
| We're working on porting unl0kr from postmarketOS to Fedora
| to allow for LUKS on the Steam Deck without an external
| keyboard, that should also work well for a tablet use case
| once it's done.
| Kellyhnsn wrote:
| Erulabs is all about Bazzite shaking things up and bringing back
| the good old peer-to-peer days of the internet - it's like a
| digital revolution waiting to happen. And heyoni? Totally feels
| the pain of how clunky and centralized the web's gotten lately,
| especially when you can't even get a straight answer from a
| simple search. Then there's mikepurvis, who's been down the DIY
| media center road and found it's not all it's cracked up to be,
| making the dream of a simple, plug-and-play system super
| appealing.
| felbane wrote:
| I would love to hear how people are building HTPC/media streaming
| setups using this kind of stack in 2024. I am very interested in
| replacing all my aging fire sticks with something custom built.
|
| Was considering just doing some RPi based dongles on bedroom TVs
| and a higher spec gaming PC with Steam Big Picture on the main
| TV, but with all the innovation recently I feel a bit of choice
| paralysis.
|
| Anyone willing to share what their setup looks like, or what
| they're planning to do in the coming year?
| CharlesW wrote:
| I did the HTPC thing for many years. Finally, I just got tired
| of the noise, heat, and occasional maintenance requirements of
| having a PC in the media room.
|
| My recommendation: Get a tiny, quiet, privacy-respecting client
| (e.g. Apple TV) and put the media on a NAS that lives
| elsewhere. Depending on your preferred client UX, you may
| (Plex) or may not (Infuse) need a separate app to serve the
| media.
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