[HN Gopher] Max Verstappen Is Still Too Young to Rent a Sports Car
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       Max Verstappen Is Still Too Young to Rent a Sports Car
        
       Author : rmason
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2023-12-28 20:07 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.roadandtrack.com)
        
       | diggan wrote:
       | I was gonna say that I'm happy that insurance companies are not
       | making arbitrary exceptions just because someone is famous, but
       | then the article finishes with:
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       | > While the original decision was a blanket choice that would
       | have seemingly been made for any driver under 30, the brand has
       | already apologized to Verstappen and added that the special
       | circumstances of his racing resume would get him in any rental
       | car he wanted in the future. In a statement shared with the Sun,
       | a Sixt representative says that Verstappen "can rent the car he
       | wants from us at any time."
       | 
       | I wonder where the limit goes for how many races one must win
       | before you count as an exception? If I've won ~5 local races
       | (first position), can I also get an exception?
        
         | Manfred wrote:
         | I would assume they made this statement because they want to
         | protect their brand and not because they think he is or isn't
         | less likely to cause an accident.
        
           | blasphemers wrote:
           | I'm pretty sure they know he is a much better driver than
           | anybody else renting the car and is less likely to be in an
           | accident.
        
             | dangus wrote:
             | If he was in an accident the news articles mentioning the
             | car rental brand would probably be worth enough to pay for
             | the car.
        
             | Detrytus wrote:
             | He's also much more likely to drive it at 3x the speed
             | limit. Also, the fact that he's Formula 1 driver actually
             | works against him here: F1 cars that he is used to are far
             | more sophisticated technology, and F1 tracks are not your
             | regular highway, making it easy for Verstappen to end up at
             | the side of the road, after overestimating his Mercedes'
             | capabilities.
        
               | blasphemers wrote:
               | This may be the most absurd statement I've ever seen on
               | this site.
        
               | tracerbulletx wrote:
               | You don't think a professional driver at the absolute
               | pinnacle of his profession knows the difference between
               | different types of cars...?
        
               | iraqmtpizza wrote:
               | I bet he knows fuck all about drum brakes lol. That has
               | zero relevance to his profession. Boomers who have never
               | been within half a mile of a race car know all about drum
               | brakes.
        
               | dharmab wrote:
               | The man is one of the most obsessed car guys on the
               | planet. Dude tunes his own iRacing setups between race
               | weekends. He knew more about cars at 16 than everyone you
               | and I will know in our lifetimes combined.
        
               | dharmab wrote:
               | Normally, I browse HN with uBlock rule that removes the
               | comments section, because I don't have to see terrible
               | takes like this.
        
             | itishappy wrote:
             | Worth noting that being a great driver does not necessarily
             | make one a safe driver. A grandmother who drives 10mph
             | under the speed limit back and forth from church could very
             | easily be less likely to get into a wreck than a
             | professional driver.
        
               | justahuman74 wrote:
               | I think people who drive 10 below increase the risk, as
               | everyone has to weave around them
        
         | rmason wrote:
         | They made an exception because he was famous. Imagining they'd
         | do the same thing for Taylor Swift if she was still under
         | thirty.
         | 
         | Also he made it clear that he was taking the car to the track
         | which also violates the company's rules. I know that at the
         | famous German Nurburgring race track you cannot take normal
         | rented cars out there. If you want to do so they charge a
         | premium of (if I remember) of 50% more. They trace their cars
         | and if you do take a normal rental out on the track you will be
         | charged quite a penalty.
        
           | ithkuil wrote:
           | He may just pay the premium. Why do you think he may be
           | unwilling to pay the 50% extra?
        
           | blasphemers wrote:
           | I don't think they made an exception because he is famous,
           | they made an exception because he is an extremely successful
           | professional driver and I doubt they would make the same
           | exception for Taylor Swift.
           | 
           | Where do you get that it violates the company rules? The
           | Nurburgring is a public road that doesn't have rules against
           | rental cars and it's pretty common for people to take rental
           | cars on it.
        
             | rmason wrote:
             | There are two kinds of rentals, normal rental cars and
             | rental cars at a premium price that are equipped for track
             | use and carry extra insurance. People do it but normal
             | rental cars aren't allowed on the track per the contract.
             | 
             | https://www.rhinocarhire.com/Car-Hire-
             | Blog/September-2019/Ca...
        
             | t0mas88 wrote:
             | You can take a rental car there, the track itself has no
             | rules against it. Several companies in the area have
             | specific cars for rent to use on the ring.
             | 
             | But for a normal Hertz/Sixt etc rental car you can run into
             | insurance issues if you crash. Because circuit / race /
             | timed use is excluded and damage to the track is as well
             | (which is common on the ring and expensive).
             | 
             | Cars specific for ring use have insurance that includes it,
             | but usually with a relatively high excess. Expect to pay
             | the first few thousand yourself if you crash.
        
         | blasphemers wrote:
         | I don't think having an exception for any high-level
         | professional driver, regardless of their win count, is an
         | arbitrary exception when it comes to renting sports cars.
        
           | ric2b wrote:
           | They do crash much more often than the average driver,
           | though.
        
         | Ekaros wrote:
         | There might be also some net wealth exception. That is do you
         | have enough money even if the insurance does not pay...
        
         | t0mas88 wrote:
         | It's probably more a financial exception. If some other
         | celebrity shows up with enough money and no driving experience
         | they would also rent it. Sixt would just not cover it under
         | their insurance.
        
       | em500 wrote:
       | Max Verstappen was also too young to drive on public roads in his
       | native countries (Netherlands/Belgium where minimum age was 18)
       | when he debuted in Formula One at age 17.
        
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