[HN Gopher] A cartographer drew a freehand map of North America ...
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       A cartographer drew a freehand map of North America (2019)
        
       Author : Tomte
       Score  : 100 points
       Date   : 2023-12-22 07:32 UTC (2 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.atlasobscura.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.atlasobscura.com)
        
       | throwup238 wrote:
       | I really like this article but I don't know why!
       | 
       |  _> Melbourne-based Anton Thomas drew North America by hand_
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       | Why North America instead of Australia, m8? Potential market
       | size? That's so American :-)
       | 
       |  _> a freelance cartographer_
       | 
       | What the hell is a freelance cartographer, what does he do, and
       | who are his colleagues? Buster Bluth and a bunch of Earth
       | observation satellites? That's one competitive market.
       | 
       |  _> I was working as a cook in the old port of Montreal. And in
       | classic Montreal fashion, we had littered the apartment with
       | things we found on the side of the road. And one was this big
       | fridge. It had all these rusty, brown stains on it. My housemate
       | Douglas, from Zimbabwe, had been urging me to draw him something
       | as a memento, since he knew I was going to go back to New
       | Zealand. He had painted the fridge with white house paint to
       | cover up the stains and I thought, "What about the fridge?"_
       | 
       | That's it, I'm moving to Australia.
       | 
       | I only collect maps that predate the steam engine but I would
       | love to buy a huge wall size print!
        
         | defrost wrote:
         | > Why North America instead of Australia, m8?
         | 
         | * He'd already just completed an Australiasian map,
         | 
         | * There's 23 countries in North America Vs. just the one in
         | Australia (especially now that Prince Leonard of the
         | Principality of Hutt River and Princess Shirley have passed on)
         | .. borders are catnip to some cartographers.
        
         | saalweachter wrote:
         | Montreal is in Canada, you know.
        
           | throwup238 wrote:
           | Don't tell them that!
        
         | ismokedoinks wrote:
         | Same thing that any freelance graphic designer or drafter would
         | do. I've made maps for landscape architects and law firms
         | before, for instance.
        
         | samstave wrote:
         | > _a freelance cartographer_
         | 
         | This guy doesn't fold to Big Map. Fjords his own path, climbs
         | his own mountains and is not fenced into you're completely
         | plain and flat plateau of mediocrity you call "cartography"
         | 
         | No, this man is a pioneer, finding excitement around every
         | butte, jetty and isthmus!
         | 
         | He peaks when you valley, he glades when you marsh, and he is a
         | fertile alluvial flood-plain to your cold, damp peat-marsh of a
         | life. A bread-basket of agricultural abundance and agrarian
         | love-making, the seat of civilization! to your barren Gobi
         | desert of a life.
         | 
         | Carter the Cartographer!
         | 
         | Otherwise known as MAP MAN!
        
         | iudqnolq wrote:
         | > For Thomas, now--for the first time in his life--a freelance
         | cartographer, who tours the world exhibiting the North America
         | map, geography is a bit of a homecoming
         | 
         | Seems like the surrounding context answers your question. This
         | freelance cartographer is someone who supports himself by
         | talking about a cool map he drew.
        
       | matthberg wrote:
       | The cartographer's website has a bunch more stuff from him and
       | some better photos of the map itself:
       | 
       | https://www.antonthomasart.com/the-north-american-continent....
        
       | mkl wrote:
       | Here's his website: https://www.antonthomasart.com/
       | 
       | South Asia and Australasia: https://www.antonthomasart.com/south-
       | asia.html
       | 
       | North America: https://www.antonthomasart.com/the-north-american-
       | continent....
       | 
       | World: https://www.antonthomasart.com/wild-world.html
        
       | voidfunc wrote:
       | Very cool piece of work. Little bit weird that Springfield gets
       | to be the other illustrated city in Massachusetts when Worcester
       | is the second biggest city in the entire region after Boston.
        
         | interloxia wrote:
         | The Simpsons is culturally more relevant for an Aussie, and I
         | would assume a Kiwi, than whatever is not Boston.
        
           | constantly wrote:
           | There must be at least 40 Springfields in the USA. Given
           | Massachusetts's early statehood, I wouldn't be surprised if
           | Springfield, MA was the "first" Springfield in USA, but are
           | you thinking the artist illustrated all the Springfields
           | because of the Simpsons?
        
             | Anechoic wrote:
             | It's the first, largest and (unfortunately) poorest
             | Springfield.
             | 
             | (I'm writing this from Springfield right now)
        
               | zamadatix wrote:
               | Springfield MO is larger. About as poor, but Springfield
               | MA ekes that out still.
        
               | Anechoic wrote:
               | Yep, you're correct, I was using old numbers -
               | Springfield MA lost some population while Springfield MO
               | grew. But we still have Dr. Suess!
        
             | Mountain_Skies wrote:
             | Suddenly I have an urge to make a Voronoi map of the US
             | using each Springfield as the capital of its own state.
        
         | Mountain_Skies wrote:
         | How close are they to other named places? Back in the 1990s my
         | father was astonished to see his little hometown in Canada on a
         | map of North America but it is in an area with few other
         | settlements so even though it isn't a seat of any level of
         | government, it's still the "major" population center for the
         | area. Meanwhile around Toronto cities 50x larger didn't make
         | the map.
        
         | Someone wrote:
         | Just as deciding what roads to show on a map, deciding what
         | labels to place and where on a map is a hard problem. There may
         | not be sufficient room for it in the location where you want to
         | place it. If so, do you move it 'a bit', maybe also move
         | another label, which means having to move another, etc. or do
         | you leave it out?
         | 
         | Worcester likely is too close to Boston to have room for it at
         | the chosen level of detail.
         | 
         | For what it's worth, when I zoom in on Massachusetts in Apple
         | Maps (which seems to have finer grained zoom levels than
         | OpenStreetMap.org or maps.Google.com), the order in which
         | cities appear is
         | 
         | - Boston
         | 
         | - Springfield
         | 
         | - New Bedford
         | 
         | - Worcester
        
       | jamincan wrote:
       | I would love to buy a map like that, but at roughly 4x4 ft, it's
       | unfortunately more than I could fit in my apartment.
        
       | marmight wrote:
       | It is labeled correctly on his map, but he is recorded as saying
       | something incorrect in the article:
       | 
       | > Also Baffin Island in Greenland. So few people have been to
       | that part of the world.
       | 
       | Baffin Island is in Canada. Since this would be something silly
       | for a cartographer to get wrong, I wonder if he didn't actually
       | say "Baffin Island _and_ Greenland " and his response was
       | incorrectly transcripted.
        
       | 1-6 wrote:
       | Too bad tectonic shifts move about the same speed as the growth
       | of a fingernail (some places even more). Land surveyors and will
       | never go out of business. GNSS cannot possibly handle the
       | resolution of a Multistation and theodolite.
        
         | colineartheta wrote:
         | (Current) Geodesist and Professional Land Surveyor (formerly
         | employed as; license retained) here chiming in. While I
         | appreciate the sentiment that we will never go out of business,
         | I'd like to proffer a couple points related to this statement
         | and the more technical one that followed (they're integrally
         | linked). While tectonic plates do move more than one might
         | assume, it is actually those same surveyors who model this
         | movement utilizing Continuously Operating Reference Stations
         | (CORS) (and other technologies) that are strategically placed
         | and constantly collecting positional data - the National
         | Geodetic Survey, in my opinion, is one of the most remarkable
         | and important scientific agencies the USA maintains. Land
         | surveying measurements rely upon the datum's and (soon)
         | projections NGS publishes, which indeed does account for these
         | movements, provided the user correctly applies the velocity
         | movement and temporal changes to the epoch desired. However, it
         | is less this movement that keeps surveyors employed and far
         | more their legal expertise that does. Land Surveyors are the
         | front line maintainers, interpreters, and, in a sense, the
         | creators/subdividers of the cadastral system responsible for
         | private property. So long as their are (on-the-ground) boundary
         | disputes over land and title, a surveyor will be needed.
         | Coordinates may one day be the controlling aspect of those
         | boundaries, but unfortunately that is not for the land
         | surveyors to decide (I digress...a simple comment on this forum
         | could never account for the nuances needed in that discussion).
         | 
         | Also, apologies, but a correction: a multi-station DOES
         | incorporate GNSS along with a theodolite (and Electronic
         | Distance Measurer, which, when all three are combined is
         | marketed as a "multi station"). I believe you meant a Total
         | Station is more precise, which is a combination theodolite/EDM,
         | excluding GNSS, and which does, locally, produce more precise
         | standalone measurements though at the cost of being limited to
         | direct line of sight. Each plays an integral part of survey
         | field work and their application.
        
           | 1-6 wrote:
           | Thanks for your high quality response to my mediocre posting.
           | I think our current maps are like a patchwork quilt made up
           | of patches of high precision / high accuracy data sewn to
           | high accuracy / low precision basemaps. Surveyors will use a
           | 'Horizontal/Vertical Datum of the day' to keep things
           | relevant to maps but in reality, their scope of work ends at
           | xy = 5000,5000 and that's it (relative coordinates). Most
           | people I've met aren't keeping up with NOAA. But nothing will
           | come close to the bearings and distances (error of closure)
           | to what a totalstation can generate in their arsenal. In the
           | end, a Civil Engineer or GIS tech will be creating that
           | mosaic out of the surveyor data and store it in a retrievable
           | format for county records. The data is stored but there's
           | still a never reconcilable difference between survey data and
           | mapping data.
           | 
           | Thus TotalStations with GNSS seem oxymoronic to me just as a
           | GPS with a laser range finder is. There is a huge opportunity
           | (for those interested) to build a surveyor-grade worldmap.
        
       | addaon wrote:
       | If the artist happens to be reading this, and would like a place
       | to stay in southern Utah, give a shout.
        
       | cvarjas wrote:
       | In my seventh grade history/social sciences class two of our main
       | projects were to draw physical maps (no political borders) of
       | Africa and North America. They were drawn on blank paper a few
       | feet in each direction, and students would generally draw a faint
       | grid to help with accuracy.
       | 
       | We were graded on the number of physical features included, and
       | how accurately the coasts, rivers, mountains, etc. were drawn.
       | 
       | I wonder if anyone still teaches with similar projects. It was a
       | great way to learn in detail about the surface of the Earth.
        
       | xprn wrote:
       | Why does the headline read like an Onion article
        
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