[HN Gopher] BBS: The Documentary (2005)
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       BBS: The Documentary (2005)
        
       Author : pelagicAustral
       Score  : 86 points
       Date   : 2023-12-23 17:45 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.bbsdocumentary.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bbsdocumentary.com)
        
       | guiambros wrote:
       | Love the documentary; fond memories from those days of 2400bps.
       | It has been posted here many times before; this is the one with
       | most comments [1], 9 years ago.
       | 
       | [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9521867
        
         | pelagicAustral wrote:
         | I think it's a comfy Christmas must watch...
        
         | leptons wrote:
         | I got a 2400bps modem to hook up to my C64 and was a bit
         | unhappy that I would get all kinds of errors when receiving
         | data from BBSs, and I figured out that the C64's native serial
         | port code was too slow, it was dropping bits. I was using CCGMS
         | terminal program at the time so I figured out how to hack CCGMS
         | and wrote my own bit-banged serial I/O code in assembly
         | language and that fixed the problem up nicely.
        
       | nshkr wrote:
       | I used to hang both online and IRL with one of the folks in the
       | documentary. Seems like yesterday. Still have nostaligic memories
       | of being enamored by his stack of USR 16.8k HST modems and the T1
       | (iirc) he managed to get to his residence.. (again, iirc), his
       | house was like under 1000 feet (loop length) to the CO (central
       | office) where the 4ESS (telephone switch) was located. (could be
       | inaccurate recollections..)
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | As I recall, I never knew any of the people in the documentary,
         | but definitely used to hang out with various people in the
         | community who were members of a large Cambridge MA BBS.
        
       | rwmj wrote:
       | https://archive.org/details/BBS.The.Documentary in case you're
       | looking for a version which isn't 27GB.
        
       | themew wrote:
       | The day I was able to upgrade my 'shoebox' 110 baud modem to a
       | 300 baud modem was the day I thought "I'll never need this kind
       | of speed, but it's nice to have."
       | 
       | Thanks for posting about this documentary. I ran a BBS from
       | 1983-1986 on a Commodore 64, a 1200 baud modem and 5 1541 floppy
       | drives. An amazing time for this technology.
        
         | leptons wrote:
         | Which BBS? I was on a lot of C64 BBSs.
         | 
         | I actually built my own 300 baud modem for my C64 from
         | electronic components I got at Radio Shack. I was kind of a
         | nerdy kid.
        
         | DonHopkins wrote:
         | Modems used to cost about a dollar per baud.
        
       | ghaff wrote:
       | BBS's are mostly a pre-web thing (and were largely divorced from
       | the internet--for which you basically had to work for a small
       | number of companies or universities to get on) so this
       | documentary from @textfiles is a valuable piece of pre-web
       | computer history. BBS's were a pretty important part of my early
       | computer experience once PC's came out.
        
         | loceng wrote:
         | BBS's were the first point of access for the internet for many
         | - the more professional or BBS-as-a-service charging fees, one
         | local one for example had something like 20 concurrent users
         | possible (20 phone lines in) - were some of the first to get T1
         | lines following universities, etc.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | Yeah, my commercial BBS was my first ISP for a time until I
           | got broadband.
        
       | divbzero wrote:
       | Are there places where BBS is still in active use?
        
         | pelagicAustral wrote:
         | Well, there is about a thousand on
         | https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/
        
         | fintler wrote:
         | If you're near the Bay Area, CA, there's a few N0ARY BBSes
         | accessible via packet radio. For example, there's one on Mt.
         | Umunhum in the Santa Cruz mountain range.
        
         | myth_drannon wrote:
         | You can telnet to many BBSs. If you want something a bit
         | similar to the original modem experience, you can buy device
         | that emulates modem but actually uses WiFi and connects to
         | telnet instead of a phone number.
        
       | jlundberg wrote:
       | I am really happy to have experienced bbses during my youth.
       | Being too young (born 1983) for their golden age, I was lucky to
       | have an older brother who allowed me to get a glimpse into this
       | world.
       | 
       | Check out https://16colo.rs/ for good art from the time. And from
       | groups who keep releasing such art to this date.
        
         | loceng wrote:
         | I was born in '83 as well but seemed to catch the tail end of
         | it - definitely part of my formative years, with experiences
         | like stumbling upon my first "sex chat bot" at age 11 or 12.
         | 
         | BBS's were also my introduction to MUDs [multi-user
         | domain/dungeon games] as well, though it was only once we got
         | dialup internet at home did I find a copy of CircleMUD to then
         | implement ideas I had for my own MUD I called Fallen Shadows -
         | and where a small community of voluntary contributors to create
         | rooms and mobs formed over a fairly short period; someone even
         | made an awesome ASCII art login page spelling out Fallen
         | Shadows in gothic-like style.
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | (2005)
       | 
       | Also available in the IA:
       | https://archive.org/details/BBS.The.Documentary
        
         | ChrisArchitect wrote:
         | Some more recent related threads with nice anecdotes and
         | connections:
         | 
         | 2022: _Really Enjoyed Jason Scott's BBS Documentary_
         | (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31740247)
         | 
         | 2021: _Ask HN: What was it like to use BBS?_
         | (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29140217)
         | 
         | 2016: _Social Media's Dial-Up Ancestor: The Bulletin Board
         | System_ https://spectrum.ieee.org/social-medias-dialup-
         | ancestor-the-...
         | (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12784307)
        
       | joquarky wrote:
       | As a teen, I used to enjoy playing around with the limits of what
       | I could do with Amiga C-Net's MCI commands as well as the
       | standard terminal ANSI escape codes.
       | 
       | I used to enjoy posting comments with those sequences embedded to
       | make the reader think they had left the forums and were now
       | elsewhere on the BBS. They eventually gave me co-sysop access so
       | I could write games, which is when I really started programming
       | for others.
       | 
       | Now I do mostly UX design and implementation. I miss the
       | simplicity of 80x24.
        
       | tibbydudeza wrote:
       | Fidonet - 2400K baud modems - it was awesome for this sheltered
       | loner.
        
       | Bayaz wrote:
       | It's surprising how much of this era has just disappeared. I
       | recently searched around to see if I could find a few of the door
       | games from my youth (Legends and Virtual SysOp) and there really
       | isn't much out there. Some games like Tradewars live on, but
       | software for TBBS/TDBS is basically forgotten.
        
         | slowhadoken wrote:
         | I believe Usurper and Legend of the Red Dragon are still
         | running somewhere. They're basically just old DOS games running
         | on someone's computer you dialed into.
        
         | bilegeek wrote:
         | If you haven't come across this already: the most comprehensive
         | archive I could find is http://archives.thebbs.org/
         | 
         | It's dial-up slow when downloading files, but maybe you'll find
         | what you're looking for.
        
         | loloquwowndueo wrote:
         | There's a service to play vga planets over the Internet as
         | well. Googling will find it.
        
       | dang wrote:
       | The videos are at https://archive.org/details/bbs_documentary
       | (via the first link below).
       | 
       | Related. Others?
       | 
       |  _The Full BBS Documentary Interviews Are Going Online_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16221915 - Jan 2018 (1
       | comment)
       | 
       |  _BBS the Documentary (2013) [video]_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9521867 - May 2015 (23
       | comments)
        
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