[HN Gopher] NewPipe 0.26
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NewPipe 0.26
Author : rc00
Score : 189 points
Date : 2023-12-22 10:14 UTC (12 hours ago)
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| ravenstine wrote:
| So glad this finally adds support for the "Live" tab on channels!
| 2Gkashmiri wrote:
| i use https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe which is super
| amazing. sadly the PR to implement sponsorblock in the main
| newpipe was worked on for almost a year but unfortunately the
| youtube-dl fiasco happened around the same time and that spooked
| the devs who refused to import the PR.
|
| That forced the PR author to set up the fork which is working
| surprisingly well. People were imagining that the fork would not
| survive but i have been using it since day 1 and can't imagine
| newpipe or libretube without sponsorblock.
| wanderingmind wrote:
| +1 for sponsor block fork. Its available through Izzydroid repo
| [1] that can be added to F-droid. The author should release it
| soon as well. Its amazing how well it works
|
| [1]
| https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/org.polymorphicshad...
| faust201 wrote:
| Izzysoft is doing valuable effort.
| soulofmischief wrote:
| Just curious, because my intuition is that anyone who finds
| sponsorblock to be crucial is likely consuming a decent bid of
| media... What are your strategies for compensating the creators
| you enjoy?
| faust201 wrote:
| Many people are patreon or other subscribers. Not needed to
| watch ads. I would rather pay than waste my bandwidth while
| on train.
| soulofmischief wrote:
| I do support creators on patreon, but I find it is too
| expensive to scale to every creator whose content I enjoy.
|
| I wish there was a tip jar under each video and that it
| integrated with alternative frontends such as NewPipe, but
| I also don't want to hear "don't forget to like and
| subscribe, make sure to hit the bell, and consider leaving
| a tip" in every single video.
| autoexec wrote:
| > but I also don't want to hear "don't forget to like and
| subscribe, make sure to hit the bell, and consider
| leaving a tip" in every single video.
|
| I don't know why youtube forces people do that, but it'd
| be nice if they fixed their algorithm so that it wasn't
| needed.
| 2Gkashmiri wrote:
| compensation for what?
|
| paint me ignorant but you read dozens of articles linked on
| HN daily. I do too, how many times have you compensated them?
|
| people who blog for fun, or have a hobby or whatever.
| tomorrow they start streaming or recording and whatever so
| why should i compensate them?
|
| why are we normalizing the idea that someone can suddenly
| start a youtube channel and now its the "responsibility" of
| subscribers to feed them?
|
| its not a zero sum game. i understand that but the current
| model works or not, i dont know because i do not contribute.
| Jenk wrote:
| None. They put their content out on a platform that does not
| require my contribution. YouTube was, and is, never about
| "compensating content creators" and I am under no obligation
| to do so, but they get paid anyway. Some get paid to add a
| segment from a sponsor, I choose to automatically skip that
| segment, but they still got paid for putting it in anyway.
|
| Would I watch it if they were behind a subscription fee? No.
| autoexec wrote:
| I don't use sponcerblock, but I do download all youtube
| videos before watching them and I manually fast forward past
| the ads. I'm sure that doesn't help them either.
|
| As others have stated there's no obligation to give youtubers
| your time/attention/money/engagement, but when you've found a
| channel you enjoy it's natural to want to help them continue
| to put out good content.
|
| Ultimately though my options for supporting youtubers are
| limited, because I'm not signing into youtube so I can't even
| comment/like/subscribe/ring bells or whatever else most
| people do.
|
| I have in the past donated to youtubers directly. Mostly
| though I support them by spreading the word and watching
| their videos. Maybe one of the people I show the channel to
| will comment and hit the like button and buy a billion nord
| VPN subscriptions.
| theNewMicrosoft wrote:
| Another fork with SponsorBlock support plus a few extra video
| platforms is the bravenewpipe
|
| https://github.com/bravenewpipe/NewPipe
| kzrdude wrote:
| Newpipe has always unreliable and prone to not working for me,
| unfortunately. Crashes. Youtube import gives just 4 subscriptions
| while I have hundreds and so on.
| the_third_wave wrote:
| Did you send crash reports, report the problem with the missing
| subscriptions, maybe even have a go at finding the cause if you
| happen to be versed in the technology? I've never seen it crash
| [1] on any of my devices so I can add that piece of anecdata to
| yours. I'm not a heavy Newpipe user since I run my own
| Invidious instance which offers close to the same functionality
| (minus playing in the background since that needs to be
| implemented on the device while Invidious is a web service) but
| for those times I do use Newpipe it works well. On those odd
| instances it doesn't load the video the solution tends to be an
| upgrade away.
|
| [1] as in 'the app crashes', not 'the video does not play', the
| former is a crash while the latter is an incompatibility with
| Youtube and tends to be solved by upgrading Newpipe.
| Sakos wrote:
| It crashed multiple times daily when I tried it a few months
| back. Same thing on my partner's phone.
| kzrdude wrote:
| I feel bad now for posting something negative, it's just a
| spontaneous report of me trying to use it. Since I've never
| successfully stepped over to using it and become a user, I
| don't report bugs either. I've simply been curious to try,
| but content with youtube (mobile web version)
| csydas wrote:
| Can you elaborate ont he crashes more? when i still had an
| android phone newpipe was the only app i actively enjoyed using
| because it was just reliable and simple. the only issues i ever
| had were the same everyone had when youtube broke the
| functionality and usually there was a dev build ready in a few
| hours with a patch and then a proper update pretty shortly
| after on the main app. but i never used it to sign in to
| youtube so might be a difference. i specifically chose newpipe
| because i didn't need to deal with google's nonsense when using
| it
| interloxia wrote:
| I have had a lot of ui crashes unrelated to YouTube over the
| years. Perhaps similar to the f-droid client. Not enough that
| it's unusable, mostly, but enough to try to avoid it either
| by suffering through ads or using an alternative.
|
| For example, this release fixes a foreground service crash
| that made background play unusable for me for a while.
| pydry wrote:
| I had a lot more crashes until I started using the official
| newpipe repository. The fdroid version lags by a few days.
|
| I think it should just be taken off fdroid.
| autoexec wrote:
| I'm using an old version (2.5.2) and just opening a video
| will cause an error ("Sorry, something went wrong" banner)
| but the video still plays so I don't care. rarely the whole
| thing will crash, but I've only seen that after hours of
| abuse (hundreds of videos viewed/downloaded)
|
| The only other problem I regularly see are queued downloads
| being suddenly/silently deleted which is frustrating because
| you have to try to remember what it was you'd queued up.
| Maybe that's been fixed already?
| ksjskskskkk wrote:
| every single newpipe problem is google actively breaking them.
|
| every time it crashed failing to parse some video is even more
| reason to use it!
| vanderZwan wrote:
| I mean, I'm sure there's also still plain old bugs from human
| error in there.
|
| But yes, if it breaks on YT specifically it's almost always
| due to YT.
| FireInsight wrote:
| I used Newpipe first after degoogling, then switch to Libretube
| for the supposed privacy benefits. App looked a bit better too
| and crashed often, but way too often there were problems with
| connecting the Piped instances it was using for streaming and
| it was laggy and slowly. Newpipe, conversely, when it works, is
| fast. Sometimes it crashes repeatedly but the problems are
| usually resolved quickly. Streaming is good quality and fast.
| tgsovlerkhgsel wrote:
| I really hope "Fix app not responding, background app crashes
| and issues with starting the player" actually addresses the
| issue. Getting an ANR popup and having to either dismiss it
| every 15 seconds or kill the app, search again for your video,
| and hope it doesn't happen again is a horrible experience.
|
| The only other experience-breaking issue I ran into is lack of
| support for multiple language tracks, which also seems fixed :)
| iforgotpassword wrote:
| I've switched to it maybe two months ago and use it in
| foreground and background mode, tried pip mode once or twice.
| But I'm using it almost every day. I had maybe four or five
| crashes so far, nothing that comes even close to the annoyance
| of YouTube's ad rate nowadays.
| imglorp wrote:
| Solid for me.
|
| Also it's not just the ad rate but also the recommendation
| drek: it's hard to follow subscriptions even, in the yt app
| or Web client.
| kzrdude wrote:
| Why I cope with youtube: adblocker ensures no ads and addon
| enables background play. Firefox on Android.
| ekianjo wrote:
| Newpipe is much nicer in interface than youtube in firefox
| kzrdude wrote:
| With the new version I think it's a contender. Now the
| playlists per channel are available, which is essential.
| iforgotpassword wrote:
| I didn't really like having YouTube be just another tab in
| my browser on mobile, it seemed too clunky. So until I
| switched, I didn't want to bother with 3rd party apps,
| since the experience a few years ago was horrible (forgot
| which ones I tried though).
|
| Also I had that little bit of respect to support creators
| by not blocking ads. But when there's two unskippable 15
| second ads before a 7 second shitpost video, at some point
| enough is enough.
|
| So while I mostly just switched because of the ads, what
| really was a huge improvement to me was how every time I
| tap a YouTube link now (messenger, browser, mail), I get a
| nice pop-up from NewPipe asking whether I want to play it
| right away in the app, play it right away but just audio in
| the background, or enqueue it (if something's already
| playing). It's a small detail but it's such an improvement
| over "just interrupt the current video without asking".
| lupusreal wrote:
| Yt-dlp is still the gold standard, but in my experience
| newpipe's reliability has improved in the past year or two.
| opan wrote:
| Gonna piggyback off this comment to say that although this
| sounds barely relevant (cli tool vs android app) at a glance,
| you can actually use both yt-dlp and mpv in termux for
| playing audio on android as well. If you throw a comment at
| the end of the mpv command with artist/song-name then it's
| very fast to find with the ctrl-r reverse shell history
| search. Arguably faster than opening Newpipe and checking
| your history or playlists. Speaking of playlists, you could
| have .m3u files of URLs for mpv to play in termux as well.
| orangepurple wrote:
| Start the app and play something through one bluetooth device.
| Pause, then connect to another bluetooth device. App won't play
| videos and bugs out.
| trulyrandom wrote:
| I remember there being talks of a complete rewrite of Newpipe.
| Did anything come of that? I'm a happy user, so I don't really
| have an opinion on whether it should happen or not.
| the-scrabi wrote:
| Schabi here: The team wants to start the rewrite in 2024 after
| 0.26.0 got released. The reson for the rewrite: Codebase got
| hard to maintin so we need to refactor. Also android changed
| the UI style and the UI frameworks a lot. We want to stay up to
| date with that.
| sureglymop wrote:
| How does one get involved? Are contributors welcome? - I know
| Kotlin and Jetpack Compose much better than the old ways of
| Android UIs though.
| the-scrabi wrote:
| Yes. Contributors are abaoloutly welcome, and Jetpack and
| Kotlin is exactly what we are looking for. However we need
| to prepare and sort out things before we can start. Stay
| put and follow our blog to find out when we begin:
| https://newpipe.net/blog
| russdill wrote:
| Pretty happy 0.26.0 went out first. There's a lot of big
| changes and fixes in there that really are huge steps forward
| in the app.
| poulpy123 wrote:
| Newpipe is one of the best app I have on my phone. Congrats to
| the dev
| Erratic6576 wrote:
| I'm looking forward to having it on iOS. EU! Eu all the Way
| Zambyte wrote:
| I missed something - is the EU forcing Apple to let people
| use the phones they buy? If so, how?
| beeboobaa wrote:
| Digital Markets Act
| rjzzleep wrote:
| As of now, it looks more like a maybe, or am I wrong?
| treyd wrote:
| That's going to be a long way off since it's a Java project
| and fairly well integrated into Android's APIs.
| nani8ot wrote:
| NewPipe Extractor [1] can be used independently, e.g. the
| piped web front-end [2] also uses it.
|
| [1] https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipeExtractor
|
| [2] https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped
| bluber84 wrote:
| I'm quite unsure...so I'm asking the community here. Is this
| a good newpipe distribution for iOS:
| https://apps.apple.com/de/app/newpipe-music-
| videos/id6450053...
| 7839284023 wrote:
| You can already use https://github.com/arichorn/uYouEnhanced
| today on iOS.
| dre85 wrote:
| NewPipe is one of the best apps available on Android. The only
| thing missing for me currently is Android Auto support.
| nvrg wrote:
| Very esoteric app, however I think Ymusic needs to be mentioned
| whenever YT alternatives are brought up. It streams only the
| MP3 of the video and the UI is cleaner imo - so it's easier to
| use if you intend to only listen to "podcasts" or music as an
| alternative to Spotify.
| no-reply wrote:
| Don't know about Ymusic as it doesn't seem open source, but
| seal [0] seems like a good alternative, based on yt-dlp
|
| 0: https://github.com/JunkFood02/Seal
| crtasm wrote:
| Sounds good. Newpipe can stream audio only too.
| ForkMeOnTinder wrote:
| This is just begging the question: surely you don't watch
| videos while driving? And if you just want the audio, there are
| music-focused YT apps (ViMusic, or like sibling said, YMusic)
| explorigin wrote:
| Newpipe has a built-in "Play in Background" feature that
| would be awesome while driving. There are tons of podcast-
| like content videos on YT that would be fine for a commute.
| jcalve wrote:
| It works in my car, I have it running in background mode
| and I just select the media player in the car menu, no
| Android auto needed.
| mikae1 wrote:
| Hail NewPipe! "Background" playback is just awesome and only
| downloads the audio stream. Use it all the time for listening to
| lectures and presentations as podcasts.
| j1elo wrote:
| I tried to do the same with music but for some reason the next
| enqueued song has the tendency of going straight up to 20 min,
| 60 min, 3 hour, 10 hour long videos.
|
| Not sure why. But this was reliably repeatable. Starting from
| any given song, I'd hit Next and before 5 to 10 videos I'd
| already be in the 10hrs long spectrum.
|
| Another thing that would also happen too frequently is that the
| next suggested video gets locked on always different videos of
| the same song. Once and again.
|
| Without any way to limit video duration and some filter to skip
| videos with a too similar name to the ones already played, it
| was useless to me.
|
| We could argue that that's just the next video suggested by
| YouTube's server. But YouTube ReVanced, on the other hand,
| doesn't exhibit any of those issues and starting from any song,
| will enqueue a variety of mostly non-repeated, single-song
| videos. Much better.
| opan wrote:
| Are you not putting specific videos into a playlist and then
| playing the playlist? You make it sound like some sort of
| magic is taking place adding videos you didn't personally
| vet.
| Novosell wrote:
| It has autoplay, just like normal YouTube.
| j1elo wrote:
| Yeah, I meant the autoplay, aka. "Auto-queue next
| stream":
|
| https://newpipe.net/FAQ/tutorials/player-enable-autoplay/
| unixhero wrote:
| Youtube revanced does this too
|
| Android rules
| apapapa wrote:
| On Firefox mobile, on the official YouTube.com website, if
| you want to be able to play in the background, all you have
| to do is request the desktop version of the site... Newpipe
| is a better way though
| rjzzleep wrote:
| You can also use video background playback fix on both
| firefox and orion on iOS.
|
| https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-
| backgro...
| rajamaka wrote:
| Brave browser on mobile too
| GuB-42 wrote:
| YouTube premium does that too, it did even when it was called
| YouTube red. As well as hacked versions of the YouTube app that
| always enable premium features.
|
| What is nice with NewPipe is that it is independent from the
| YouTube app.
| darkwater wrote:
| I use NewPipe regularly but unfortunately many videos play..
| .weird, either skipping frames or pausing for a few milliseconds
| and then going faster. I have a Pixel 6a so it's as stock Android
| as you can get without using an AOSP based ROM...
|
| OTOH on the desktop Freetube is basically 10 times better than
| original Youtube under every aspect, and videos play perfectly.
| Kudos to Freetube.
| noman-land wrote:
| NewPipe is overwhelmingly my most used app. It's simply amazing.
| rzr wrote:
| Is anyone happy of newpipe on android tv ?
|
| On my freebox mini 4k (french ISP box) experience does not
| improve over time, but I'll give a try on latest.
| smusamashah wrote:
| I have SmartTube on Android TV, been working perfectly over a
| year now.
| notesinthefield wrote:
| I miss having an android phone for easy file system nav and
| NewPipe. I hate having to pay YT just for background playback
| 7839284023 wrote:
| I assume you are using an iPhone now?
|
| You could try e.g.: https://github.com/arichorn/uYouEnhanced +
| https://github.com/powenn/AltServer-Linux-PyScript (or
| alternatives)
|
| I dislike that I have to sideload the app every week again or
| it stops working but better than nothing I guess.
| 1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote:
| Only use NewPipe for SoundCloud. Quite stable for that. For
| YouTube it's a waste of time, IMHO. Constantly breaking, IME.
| Command line utilties for interacting with YouTube I wrote for
| myself are much more stable and almost never break. (Maybe once
| every few years. And fixed the same day by me.)
| autoexec wrote:
| 100% of my youtube use on mobile is via newpipe and I love it.
| On the desktop it's all command line, but I can't agree that
| newpipe is a waste of time.
|
| One of the features new pipe offers that I only started using
| is the ability to "subscribe" to channels. I never log into
| youtube, so subscriptions are client side only. They're
| basically just a list of bookmarks, but newpipe can also go out
| and pull down a listing of new videos from the channels I'm
| subscribed to and i can categorize those channels into groups.
| It's extremely useful!
|
| Newpipe does occasionally stop working, but it's been many
| months since it last happened. When it does happen, it's never
| newpipe's fault. Blame google (who sometimes intentionally
| tries to break things), but when that happens the command line
| usually still works and updates are pretty fast.
|
| My only complaint really is that sometimes new pipe will clear
| a long list of queued downloads. I'm not sure what triggers it,
| but it can be difficult to go back and track down what was
| queued up. For all I know, that's been fixed in this new update
| SpaghettiCthulu wrote:
| I've recently started using [Grayjay](https://grayjay.app/). It's
| not open source, but it is source available and individuals are
| allowed to modify the code to their liking. I've found that it
| crashes more often than NewPipe, but the vastly expanded
| features, more frequent updates, and improved performance
| fetching subscriptions are all worth it imo.
| DrNosferatu wrote:
| Also, checkout NewPipe with built in SponsorBlock functionality:
| https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe
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