[HN Gopher] Fedora Asahi Remix
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       Fedora Asahi Remix
        
       Author : Vinnl
       Score  : 173 points
       Date   : 2023-12-19 15:17 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (asahilinux.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (asahilinux.org)
        
       | Vinnl wrote:
       | Posting because it's now been officially released:
       | https://social.treehouse.systems/@AsahiLinux/111607682159825...
        
       | caution wrote:
       | Few more details over on: https://fedoramagazine.org/introducing-
       | fedora-asahi-remix-39...
        
       | smith7018 wrote:
       | Congrats Asahi team! I can't wait until Vulkan support is ready;
       | it'll be cool to see what Apple's hardware can achieve when it's
       | no longer restricted by Metal and macOS.
        
         | jjtheblunt wrote:
         | I am misunderstanding your comment.
         | 
         | How is Apple hardware in any way constrained by highly
         | optimized versions of a graphics hardware library specifically
         | for that hardware and an operating system optimized also for
         | the hardware?
        
           | Hazematman wrote:
           | I think the implication is that the hardware is being
           | constrained by what software is able to run on it. That there
           | is a wealth more of Vulkan applications that a user would
           | want to run, and they are currently unable to do that, since
           | MoltenVK cannot support everything a Vulkan application may
           | need.
        
             | jjtheblunt wrote:
             | I understand and that would make sense. Personally, I
             | absolutely loath the font rendering on macOS, and I just
             | installed the Asahi Linux a year or so ago myself because
             | the fonts are much easier on my eyes, or my ability to
             | control the font settings that is.
        
       | gorbypark wrote:
       | Does anyone know if speaker support is now live? The splash page
       | has a section about it, but it's always been in a "alpha" state /
       | not available without doing some hands on things to enable it.
       | It's really the only blocked for me from using Asahi as a daily
       | driver (and also being based on Fedora...can't wait for a fully
       | baked Debian variant!)
        
         | cassianoleal wrote:
         | Unless Fedora has patches that haven't (yet?) been upstreamed,
         | you could probably find that information on
         | https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support
        
         | tgcordell wrote:
         | the second sentence of the section titled "The best Linux
         | laptop audio you've ever heard" says "Just install Fedora Asahi
         | Remix and enjoy high-quality audio right out of the box, no
         | setup needed."
        
         | GrilledChips wrote:
         | The page has per-machine lists of available and unsupported
         | features. The only mac that doesn't have audio right now are
         | the M1 imacs, due to their speakers working differently than
         | the laptops. They're not that different though, so I expect
         | they'll be working in a couple of months.
        
         | Vinnl wrote:
         | Haha, I know this was already answered, but just to cement it,
         | I wanted to quote this Fedora toot:
         | 
         | > The speakers work, baby!
         | 
         | https://fosstodon.org/@fedora/111608377792618573
        
           | cevn wrote:
           | This is awesome!!!
        
             | cevn wrote:
             | Edit: Not working on my M1 MBP :c
        
       | malermeister wrote:
       | This is so close to being usable for me on my M1. I just need mic
       | and usb-c screens to work and I'm switching over.
       | 
       | Can't wait to finally liberate this nice piece of hardware - I
       | gave the OS an honest try, but it feels... limiting to me.
        
         | signa11 wrote:
         | i think, you can almost get there already with hdmi support,
         | which was done (iirc) couple of weeks ago.
        
           | r00fus wrote:
           | Unfortunately M1 Air doesn't have HDMI.
        
         | Octabrain wrote:
         | I don't have an M[1-3]{1} right now but as soon as hear that
         | Linux is usable on it I'm gonna purchase one right away.
        
           | colonwqbang wrote:
           | I'm in the same boat. Apple hardware is perhaps the best
           | available. The software that comes with it leaves a lot to be
           | desired. I would rather just run a standard Linux system.
        
             | Octabrain wrote:
             | Yes. I've been a long time Linux PC user (Thinkpads and
             | Dell mostly) so without any shame, I have to admit that the
             | quality of Apple devices is miles ahead anything else I've
             | tried. Also yes, I simply cannot stand MacOS. I can
             | recognise its virtues (and its limitations) but it's just
             | not for me.
        
               | laurels-marts wrote:
               | As a PC user you'll have to get used to the extra control
               | key which comes in addition to command and option.
        
               | rahimnathwani wrote:
               | PC has Ctrl, Alt and the Windows key.
               | 
               | What 'extra' does a Mac have, except the Fn key?
        
         | nsonha wrote:
         | wait, it says HDMI, does that mean HDMI works via type-c
         | adapter?
        
           | psanford wrote:
           | No, that is specifically for the dedicated HDMI ports.
        
             | SamuelAdams wrote:
             | Exactly, here is the source of the announcement:
             | 
             | https://social.treehouse.systems/@AsahiLinux/11151542212530
             | 9...
        
       | sounds wrote:
       | Without diminishing how cool I think the Asahi linux project is,
       | can I shout out the panel at the bottom of the page for device
       | support.
       | 
       | As a tech enthusiast, that's exactly the kind of page I would
       | want if I were buying a new Apple device today. It doesn't show
       | everything, but it's excellent for comparing across Apple's whole
       | Mac Silicon lineup.
       | 
       | Even being at the bottom of the page, I still think that panel is
       | one of the most effective ways of marketing Apple devices -- to
       | me, personally -- vs. anything I've seen.
        
         | alberth wrote:
         | Device Support Section
         | 
         | I couldn't agree more the device support section is amazing.
         | 
         | Its simple. Clear. Conveys exactly what you need to know
         | quickly. Bravo.
        
         | fhub wrote:
         | It is good. One gap in the coverage visualization is Magic
         | Keyboard with Touch ID (Which is what I use for my Mac Studio)
        
         | OJFord wrote:
         | You might like even more:
         | https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support which
         | breaks it down by CPU and has some more detail.
         | 
         | It used to be rendered on the site, but it seems to have had a
         | reshuffle with this release/announcement, or I can't find it
         | now anyway.
        
       | roboben wrote:
       | Can't wait to install on my M2 Pro MacBook. I was a long term
       | Arch user on a Thinkpad years ago and then switched to MacBooks.
       | Apple Hardware and Linux is best of both worlds for me.
       | 
       | Congrats to the Asahi team!
        
       | 656565656565 wrote:
       | is it possible to dual boot keeping macOS ?
        
         | toby0897 wrote:
         | Yes, by default the installer slices off a partition for linux
         | and installs to that, it looks like another version of macOS to
         | the boot picker
        
       | PsyNyde wrote:
       | >We've worked together with the PipeWire and WirePlumber projects
       | to add support for fully automatic and transparent DSP
       | configuration I just hope this isn't only for apple silicon
        
       | ang_cire wrote:
       | they don't really make clear if this install script _replaces_
       | MacOS, or if it installs Asahi /Fedora alongside or inside it.
       | Does anyone know which it is?
        
         | GrilledChips wrote:
         | afaik there has always been the option to install alongside
         | during the installer. It might not even be possible to do
         | otherwise if you're installing from macOS itself.
        
         | psanford wrote:
         | The installer prompts you for how much you want to shrink your
         | macOS partition and then installs Asahi to a newly created set
         | of partitions.
         | 
         | You still need macOS to do any sort of firmware upgrade, so
         | there is no blessed install process that completely replaces
         | macOS.
        
       | jasoneckert wrote:
       | I've been daily driving Asahi for over a year and a half now. I
       | started with the first release on Arch Linux ARM last year, and
       | switched to Fedora Asahi Remix in August of this year
       | (https://jasoneckert.github.io/myblog/fedora-asahi-remix/).
       | 
       | And I must say that it's been a pleasure watching this project
       | progress over that time, and the amount of effort put in by so
       | many people on the Asahi and Fedora teams.
        
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