[HN Gopher] How AppHarvest's indoor farming scheme imploded
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       How AppHarvest's indoor farming scheme imploded
        
       Author : rntn
       Score  : 28 points
       Date   : 2023-12-17 20:18 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | underseacables wrote:
       | I think America has entered a post labor world in which manual
       | labor is getting harder, lower paid, and lowered value. Labor
       | will always be needed, but there are less and will be even fewer
       | of those jobs to go around. As more low income, low education
       | laborers proliferate, it will get increasingly hard for others to
       | get a job in that market.
        
         | earthnail wrote:
         | By this logic - and I'm not saying you're wrong - a good
         | strategy for low education workers would be to try and limit
         | the supply and this limit low education immigration.
         | 
         | Which would explain current American (and most of western
         | Europe's) politics and its right wing culture rather well, and
         | indicate that low education workers make rather rational voting
         | decisions.
         | 
         | Happy to hear other analyses :).
        
           | xrd wrote:
           | I really wanted to down vote your comment based on my own
           | reactions to it, but I can't fault your conclusions.
        
             | TeMPOraL wrote:
             | Yeah, the problem with political discourse these days is
             | assuming that the "other side" is _irrational_. Vast
             | majority of people have beliefs that are at least
             | defensible if you take care to look into their individual
             | situation. They may be _globally_ irrational, but they are
             | usually _locally_ rational (in the algorithmic sense of
             | "global"/"local", not geographical).
             | 
             | (If in doubt, the reason for any widespread and stable set
             | of beliefs is usually economical in nature.)
        
         | naasking wrote:
         | > in which manual labor is getting harder, lower paid, and
         | lowered value
         | 
         | I think the trades are paid more than ever, and they're scarcer
         | than ever. I'm not sure this will change anytime soon.
         | 
         | AI is likely to make a respectable dent in knowledge work.
        
       | CaliforniaKarl wrote:
       | I wonder what the extended friends network looks like for a lot
       | of folks here. I think maintaining diversity in your network of
       | friends would go a long way towards preventing situations like
       | this.
        
       | cratermoon wrote:
       | Oh, I know this story.
       | 
       | The founder/CEO from Kentucky got a business degree, moved to
       | D.C. to work as a contractor on renewable energy projects and
       | then in 2018 Congress passed a farm bill, to distribute over $40
       | million in grants to controlled environment agriculture.
       | AppHarvest was founded in 2018. One of the lead investors? The
       | USDA.
       | 
       | Just grifting taxpayers through the public/private revolving
       | door, happens all the time. Maybe this story is especially
       | interesting because it involves a startup and agriculture. If it
       | were some military or management industry grift, it'd be just
       | another Thursday.
       | 
       | ETA: I'd love to see a journalist look into any interests
       | Kentucky elected officials had in any of the investors. Did
       | anyone in Kentucky politics, either state or federal, make money
       | off this?
        
       | Terr_ wrote:
       | > "People with billions of dollars became aware of this industry
       | and they think it's the wave of the future," said Bugbee, "but it
       | doesn't mean there's been a scientific shift. It staggers me how
       | much money they're putting in."
       | 
       | This description seems like it could fit quite a few other
       | disasters in different business-areas. Manufactured hype is taken
       | as social-proof that something fundamental changed.
        
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