[HN Gopher] ASML and Samsung seal deal on 2nm chips
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       ASML and Samsung seal deal on 2nm chips
        
       Author : ycdxvjp
       Score  : 50 points
       Date   : 2023-12-16 21:52 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | borissk wrote:
       | Surely ASML would prefer that Samsung and Intel could keep up
       | with TSMC on manufacturing the latest and greatest CPU/GPU/SoCs.
       | So not hard to believe that they'll sell the first next gen
       | machines to Samsung.
        
       | nathan_phoenix wrote:
       | How far does a $762 million deal get you? Doesn't seem like such
       | a huge sum for priority access to next gen 2nm machines, but also
       | hard to judge as a layperson...
        
         | lucubratory wrote:
         | Just based on some price familiarity with previous generations
         | and extrapolating forward, that does seem like a contract for
         | one machine with a gold-plated service contract or two machines
         | with a good service contract. It seems to me more like a pilot
         | program, but Samsung is a very significant player in semi so
         | idk... I'm not familiar enough with this industry. It could
         | just be because it's very early in the generation.
        
       | huijzer wrote:
       | Anyone here who knows what are the benefits of going from, say, 4
       | or 3nm to 2nm? ASML talks about energy cost per function mostly,
       | but it's not as clear cut as transitions in the 2000s were if I'm
       | not mistaken.
        
         | refulgentis wrote:
         | Concisely, but eliding: smaller transistors consume less power.
         | Using smaller transistors, you can get the same performance at
         | a lower power budget, or more performance at the same power
         | budget.
        
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