[HN Gopher] WWII code breaker Mary Ratcliffe has died
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       WWII code breaker Mary Ratcliffe has died
        
       Author : smcin
       Score  : 76 points
       Date   : 2023-12-15 14:17 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.dailymail.co.uk)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.dailymail.co.uk)
        
       | smcin wrote:
       | (There will be better obituaries for her, but for now the
       | DailyMail was one of the first to publish)
        
         | LemmyInThePub wrote:
         | The Daily Mail certainly isn't a reputable news source.
         | 
         | In fact, Wikipedia has banned its use:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Reliability
        
           | dang wrote:
           | On HN, we go by article quality, not site quality. This looks
           | like a good enough article. Lots of past explanation about
           | this: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=fal
           | se&so...
        
       | toomuchtodo wrote:
       | Surprisingly, no Wikipedia page for this notable figure.
        
         | smcin wrote:
         | I can't find out whether she was a cryptographer, but she was
         | at a higher level than the technicians.
         | 
         | https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/yoursay/3840026.letter-f...
        
         | MandieD wrote:
         | Pages for women scientists have often been deleted (or at least
         | nominated for deletion) for not being notable enough:
         | https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/female-scientists-pages-...
        
           | dudul wrote:
           | Was she a scientist? I didn't know her, and after reading
           | this, admittedly short, article it doesn't look like she was
           | doing much more than technician work.
        
           | smcin wrote:
           | The article didn't say she was a scientist. There were also
           | technicians. It's unclear.
           | 
           | I said there may be more detailed bios published. I was
           | unable to find much under her name.
        
         | ejb999 wrote:
         | Not surprising to me - is she actually notable? as far as I can
         | tell she is no more (or less) notable than any of the millions
         | of people that contributed to the war effort - so along the
         | lines of an army grunt following orders to shoot at the enemy,
         | or an assembly line worker in the USA putting together B27's.
         | 
         | She took coded messages, fed them into a device that someone
         | else invented, and then delivered the output for someone to
         | (possibly) act on. As far as I can tell she was a cog in the
         | huge war machine.
         | 
         | Do all of the millions of people, or 100's of thousands of
         | americans who gave their lives, get or deserve a wikipedia page
         | as well?
         | 
         | Nothing against this woman, or anyone that contributed to the
         | war effort, but millions upon millions of people did - and they
         | are all equally worthy of remembrance.
        
       | fanatic2pope wrote:
       | If you are ever nearby, I can strongly recommend visiting
       | Bletchley Park. It is a pretty small museum now, but almost
       | everything about it is fascinating and you can easily spend a
       | full day there.
       | 
       | https://bletchleypark.org.uk/
        
         | komadori wrote:
         | I prefer The National Museum of Computing, which now occupies a
         | site just outside the Bletchley Park museum perimeter.
         | 
         | For example, the last time I visited Bletchley Park they were
         | exhibiting a mock-up of one side of a Bombe with a video screen
         | mounted on the other side playing something on a loop. By
         | comparison, TNMoC has a real working reconstruction of a Bombe
         | and we were able to watch a live code breaking demonstration.
         | 
         | https://www.tnmoc.org/
        
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