[HN Gopher] Mitchell reflects as he departs HashiCorp
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Mitchell reflects as he departs HashiCorp
Author : manojlds
Score : 169 points
Date : 2023-12-14 21:27 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| fishnchips wrote:
| Drop the "Hashi". Just Corp. It's cleaner.
|
| Jokes aside, it's an end of an era. Mitchell has always been one
| of my role models both as an amazing engineer and a really
| decent, humble human being. I'm really looking forward to other
| amazing things he's going to build.
| teeray wrote:
| CorpyCorp could work
| quickthrower2 wrote:
| CorpyMcCorpFace
| candiddevmike wrote:
| ExVMwareCorp may work.
| password4321 wrote:
| Is there any one individual or group responsible for HashiCorp's
| switch to BSL?
|
| From what I saw Mitchell let go of running the company and now
| that HashiCorp is not so cool anymore it's time to get out.
| echelon wrote:
| They built a ton of value, were unable to capitalize on it
| (just like early Docker), and when they tried to capture the
| value of the thing they built it pissed off the open source
| ecosystem (and all the profitable companies) built on top.
|
| They should have thought about this a long, long time ago.
|
| I feel for the smaller companies, but I feel for big companies
| that come in and plunder because of open license terms.
| voytec wrote:
| > Is there any one individual or group responsible for
| HashiCorps switch to BSL?
|
| IBM, would you choose to trust statements[1] posted from a
| throwaway account
|
| [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38579504
| gobins wrote:
| Looking forward to what Mitchell does next. I have always enjoyed
| reading his code, a fantastic role model.
| glenngillen wrote:
| This is what he's working on atm, including regular updates on
| progress: https://mitchellh.com/ghostty
| tiffanyh wrote:
| The sense I always got from the outside (I don't know him
| personally), is that Mitchell is just a really good engineer that
| wants to build great products.
|
| Nothing more.
|
| He's honest about what he's passionate about. Hence why he went
| from running the company to stepping back to being an IC.
|
| I've got a lot of respect for that.
|
| Below is his personal website, for those who haven't read his
| posts.
|
| https://mitchellh.com
| debarshri wrote:
| It is interesting to see how hashicorp went from an underdog
| company with vagrant to a company to aspire for with terraform,
| nomad, consul, vault to something that orgs and community dread,
| all within a decade.
|
| Standards that they have set are still industry wide relevant.
| But you can see they are on a negative path.
| jen20 wrote:
| This is a weird take. If anything, Nomad, Consul and Vault are
| on the ascent, as the realities of the CNCF ecosystem set in
| for people with results to deliver.
| m1keil wrote:
| Honestly feels a bit like the end of another great company - Chef
| (Adam Jacob).
|
| Great tooling, built with great engineers but business realities
| forced it to take some unfortunate turns.
|
| I do hope Hashicorp will manage to find its stride and not end up
| as some bullet point in a long "solutions" portfolio of some
| software conglomerate.
|
| And thank you Mitchell for all the work. Can't wait to see what
| is coming next from you.
| lamroger wrote:
| Forgot about Chef... Good times...
| revskill wrote:
| No mention about what's next ? Hm, why.
| jethronethro wrote:
| Doubt there's anything sinister or shady about that. Maybe he
| doesn't have any plans. Or maybe he just doesn't feel like
| sharing those plans or doesn't feel obliged to share them.
| revskill wrote:
| My guess (could be wrong): He no longer enjoy writing Go.
| brcmthrowaway wrote:
| Something AI related no doubt
| pphysch wrote:
| He's been working hard on a really cool modern terminal
| emulator the last couple years, among other things I'm sure.
|
| https://mitchellh.com/ghostty
| unethical_ban wrote:
| Kids are a thing that can be next.
| 0xbadcafebee wrote:
| I don't really have hard feelings toward him or his company. But
| the end result of his company's most well-known tool (Terraform)
| has been to create a giant immovable rock that many of us are
| forced to toil against every day. Our cries for change go
| unheeded, our pull requests rejected. Its unnecessary kludginess,
| lack of important features, and insistence on "opinionated"
| behaviors that nobody wants, create unnecessary pain, toil and
| instability. The weight and scope of its impact has meant that no
| alternative is acceptable, nor even feasible to create.
| Thankfully, their licensing change seems to have done what the
| community could not: create a viable alternative, that we pray
| one day might adopt the changes we've been begging for. (Although
| to be honest, I don't _really_ expect change.) So, to Mitchell, I
| 'm glad you're getting rich (cash those shares out now before the
| stock plummets more!) and getting out. But I also hope you never
| make another OSS tool again.
| leetrout wrote:
| This negativity is unnecessary.
|
| Mitchell has had little to do with the issues Terraform faced
| and how things went. That responsibility belongs to others in
| eng leadership.
| dewey wrote:
| > But I also hope you never make another OSS tool again.
|
| What a sad thing to say. If you picked a free open source tool
| that was not right for your use case maybe you should blame
| yourself.
| cgopalan wrote:
| Mitchell is the only person I can think of who went through the
| cycle of tinkerer/IC -> founder -> CXO and then back to IC in his
| own company. Also, his writings on Zig has been tremendously
| helpful for someone like me who is curious about it. Huge respect
| from a fellow IC!
| mitchellh wrote:
| We've gone full circle! I originally launched Vagrant here on HN
| in 2010, which was at the top of HN very briefly for the day. Now
| here I am 14 years later witnessing my departure post in that
| very same spot. A strange experience! Thanks for the support over
| the years. A lot of the initial community for the projects I
| helped start came from here.
| awsanswers wrote:
| I built a career following in your vision. Thank you 1000x
| philbert101 wrote:
| Well deserved Mitchel! Thank you for Vagrant, Packer, Consul,
| Vault and Terraform, all of which I used back in my DevOps
| days.
| leetrout wrote:
| Congratulations, Mitchell!
|
| Many accomplishments and the ability to change an entire
| industry. One of a kind!
|
| Can't wait to see what else you get up to.
| jtreminio wrote:
| My first major foss was heavily based around Vagrant (PuPHPet).
| It was a joy building on top of your tooling to make web
| engineers lives easier.
|
| Thank you for your work, it was great while it lasted!
| ezekg wrote:
| Some of my first OSS work was also based on Vagrant
| (https://github.com/ezekg/tj). I eventually turned that into
| a commercial desktop app, built on top of that CLI project.
| Ultimately, the project didn't work out, but it was a big
| step in my open source and entrepreneurial journey.
|
| ty, mitchellh!
| jamestimmins wrote:
| Congrats on what you've accomplished here. Building an
| industry-standard company and then carefully planning your exit
| on your own terms is a huge win.
|
| I (selfishly) hope whatever is next is still hacker adjacent,
| bc your work has been a big inspiration to a lot of us. Best of
| luck to you!
| fb03 wrote:
| Thank you for all your hard work, man!
| jackson-mcd wrote:
| Congrats!
| sytse wrote:
| Congrats on all your accomplishments Mitchell and looking
| forward to what you'll create next.
| gigapotential wrote:
| Congrats! You've Terraformed the industry!
| mugivarra69 wrote:
| terraform move killed it
| nodesocket wrote:
| I use HashiCorp software nearly daily and think Terraform was the
| biggest eureka! moments for me. I've held HashiCorp since the
| IPO... Hasn't gone as planned so far, but holding on. Honestly, I
| expect an acquisition like Slack (just my hunch).
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