[HN Gopher] Tech Predictions for 2024 and Beyond Dr. Werner Voge...
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Tech Predictions for 2024 and Beyond Dr. Werner Vogels, CTO,
Amazon.com
Author : sharjeelsayed
Score : 74 points
Date : 2023-12-13 21:09 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| f6v wrote:
| It's one year only, I know we can't expect a breakthrough. But
| this is very boring.
| timeagain wrote:
| this all sounds great for rich people and like hell for everyone
| else. AI learns that brown people exist, women become data farms,
| clippy is your new boss, children are our future profits.
|
| There is some kind of satire in here about how tech leaders and
| QAnon folks want the same things but take opposing routes to get
| there. Tech wants to say the N-word, get inside women's private
| parts, devalue knowledge work, and indoctrinate children. But for
| liberalism...
| dontupvoteme wrote:
| >women become data farms
|
| I don't follow this one..
| andsoitis wrote:
| > Culture influences everything
|
| While culture definitely touches everything and is a lens through
| which we look at the world and each other, there are some things
| that culture cannot bend to its will. I'm not arguing that there
| is an objective reality that we can access, but there are things
| in the universe that culture cannot make a dent in.
|
| I had a conversation just this morning with Bard where it
| provided me with a culture slant that is also, shall we say,
| politically influenced, but in this particular instance I just
| wanted the raw facts without taking people feelings into account.
| It felt like it was lecturing me, which is very very off-putting.
| timeagain wrote:
| So what was the conversation?
| nyc_data_geek1 wrote:
| >>I'm not arguing that there is an objective reality that we
| can access,
|
| Isn't there? What would the light coming through James Webb be,
| then? Acceleration due to gravity? The non-repeating nature of
| Pi? Seems to me the universe is filled with objective
| realities, and it's our deteriorating social fabric that makes
| people cast doubt on that fact.
| kd913 wrote:
| I remember some visions of the future from Microsoft from the
| early 2000s. They even demoed some cool gear with the Kinect and
| I even managed to try out the table at their campus.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VfpVYYQzHs
|
| That and this vision too.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wraF2DjALls
|
| Now I speak to others SWEs in tech from semis to hyperscalers and
| it feels so bleak. All ethereal bollocks with crypto and AI. All
| designed to make someone else money. Where is the cool wearable,
| IoT, actual human interaction tech.
|
| We should be having magic mirrors, that style of coffee table...
| Heck I would settle on smarter green tech.
|
| Everything honestly seemed more fun back then from the state of
| the web, gaming.
|
| I have never been so bored with the state of tech.
| aprilthird2021 wrote:
| Meta is working on some of that stuff. But in the current
| economic era of profit over innovation / growth, those
| sentiments you miss are going to be dormant for a while.
| ohthatsnotright wrote:
| And who can trust Meta anyway? No thanks.
| nine_zeros wrote:
| > Where is the cool wearable, IoT, actual human interaction
| tech
|
| You should look into wearable devices like whoop which are
| steadily carving out the future of useful health-related
| wearable tech.
| kd913 wrote:
| I already use an apple watch ultra, and it has improved my
| life in many ways. Again though, everything feels so limited
| to the possibilities?
|
| I have some ideas for social interaction apps that I am
| hoping to build, just the current choices of focusing on
| health tracking right now seems limiting to me.
|
| At a gig, why can't I use my watch to find my mate? Why can't
| I play corporate wide pandemic zombie survival with my watch?
| Why can't my house auto-detect where I am and adjust
| thermostats accordingly? Why can't I unlock and open my house
| with my watch? Why can't I use my watch NFC to bump myself in
| at work?
|
| List goes on.
| nine_zeros wrote:
| > just the current choices of focusing on health tracking
| right now seems limiting to me.
|
| Anecdotally, my peer group uses it everyday to check how
| their last day was and use that info to regulate their
| activities today. Then discuss it with their peers
| everyday.
| f6v wrote:
| I kind of want tech to become invisible and just do things
| without my explicit order. So, AI progress would be exciting.
| But it feels like 95% is gimmicky. Which is fair, people trying
| to find a way to extract real value from tech advancements.
| endgame wrote:
| Funny. I want less invisible tech doing strange things in
| subtle ways, and I want things to do what I tell them, on my
| orders, and do so rapidly. I'm sick of invisible updates,
| invisible data collection, etc.
| bluGill wrote:
| I want tech to figure out what I want and do that
| invisibly. I don't want all the data collection. I also
| don't want to have to tell the clothes washer to do
| laundry, I want it to detect clothes on my floor and return
| them to the correct place clean. Note that this needs to be
| correct, it needs to understand the difference between
| clothes I'm going to wear again and cloths that I want
| washed.
|
| Similarly, the kitchen robot should figure out a healthy
| meal we will enjoy, get it on the table for our dinner and
| then clear the table when we are done eating: putting the
| leftovers away and clean up everything else.
|
| The above is what slaves could do 150 years ago. We have
| lost much - it is worth not having slaves in society, but
| if you would have had a slave (or servant) 150 years ago
| your life is worse in some ways for that progress and I
| want it back. I also want this affordable for everyone.
| tw04 wrote:
| Have you ever had _ANYTHING_ break with google? Have you ever
| tried to get it fixed? Imagine your car just stops going into
| drive "because AI" with absolutely no way to fix it
| yourself.
|
| That's my dystopia...
| tsunamifury wrote:
| The answer to that is right in your own comment. No one wanted
| that cumbersome demo ware crap. It had no utility and no value
| other than visual bling.
|
| The reality is people want to live their lives freely, not tied
| to technology. This is something Apple understood under Ive so
| very well until Cook drove him out. Now I expect we will see
| Apple's first failure with Vision as HCI will demand a less
| constricting interface.
|
| AI is likely that freeing engagement paradigm, and Ive is
| jumping onboard there.
| kmlx wrote:
| > The reality is people want to live their lives freely, not
| tied to technology.
|
| considering every one and their dog has a phone, the
| incredible rise of digital payments, more and more time being
| spent online, more people globally getting online, more
| expansive internet ever year, cars and their media systems,
| electric cars, all devices connected to the internet and so
| many other things i'm missing, i would qualify this statement
| as false.
| ecshafer wrote:
| When I was younger I would have agreed with you negatively,
| that apple hides the technology too much. But now I agree
| with you and think Ive and Jobs did get it on a product
| level. Tech should do something for you, and ideally you
| should not realize you are using technology.
|
| Imagine you are a carpenter, and you build houses. You only
| have ever used a hammer and nails for nailing. One day you
| get a super fancy nail gun that you adjust pressure and tweak
| 1 million settings and it has a lazer sight and cloud
| connectivity etc you would probably hate it. But if you get a
| nail gun that is idiot proof and works well with no tweaks
| you would love it.
|
| Technology exists to solve prolbems not for its own sake.
| fidotron wrote:
| Yes, I think the difference is something like classic Apple
| viewed computers as things within a lived in external
| environment, classic Microsoft (Gates, at least) views the
| physical world as merely an inconvenience getting in the way
| of your connection with the metaverse, for want of a better
| term.
|
| The big balance to make with ambient computing is to ensure
| the humans using it are the entities that have agency, and
| they don't merely give it up to the system. Arguably things
| like Tiktok, Facebook etc. demonstrate people already have.
|
| There was a project in Japan called TRON, at least
| superficially a sort of academic/industrial operating system
| research effort, however, the leader used to write
| introductions to their annual conferences, and one of these
| contains a rant about why virtual reality is misguided and
| the internet of things is the way to go, and this is from
| like 1995.
| tomrod wrote:
| Humane looks promising.
| CalChris wrote:
| > I have never been so bored with the state of tech.
|
| First, I agree that crypto and AI are much VC nonsense. Not so
| much make someone else money as consume it while dominating the
| conversation. Maybe AI will put customer support people out of
| a job. Congratulations VCs, that's what you were put on the
| planet for. Bravo, well done.
|
| Otherwise, maybe tech is too good.
|
| Wearables? Apple Watch and iPhone. I'm very happy with the
| MacBook Air that I'm typing this on. I'm quite happy with my
| EVs. When I need to see a doc, I send a message on MyChart.
| Chat with a friend, WhatsApp. When I need to look something up
| chances are pretty high that there's something on Wikipedia.
| When I want a book, I check it out online and pick it up at the
| library. Or I'll buy it on Alibris or Amazon. A nice late
| edition copy of my college calculus book cost $5 + shipping. I
| can travel anywhere and have a map and be able to pay for
| something with my credit card. When I want a quick tutorial and
| drills on Kyrie Irving's moves, it's on YouTube. Chess? I can
| play programs that would destroy Bobby Fischer.
|
| As for systems and infra, I'm very happy with LLVM, Linux,
| FreeBSD, homebrew, .... Readily available consumer systems are
| infinitely fast compared to what we grew up with. No Apple IIgs
| for me, thank you Boomer.
|
| My complaint? No late night haunts because everyone is online.
|
| I'll grant that what isn't there is the sense of the new. But
| what is there is really, really good.
| 999900000999 wrote:
| I'm actually really happy with the progress made with
| wearables.
|
| Smart watches are great, the Humane pin is cool ( massively
| overpriced considering you could probably give these out to
| anyone who prepays for a year of service).
|
| I imagine the next great step will be AI powered pseudo code.
| fidotron wrote:
| I think what's funny about these videos is they aren't exactly
| dependent on advances in computing, but in display technology
| and network bandwidth. I've been annoying people for years by
| pointing out software is often the easiest part of all of this,
| and anyone doubting that should attempt to build a physical
| device, let alone a state of the art one.
|
| Really the canary in this particular coal mine was when Silicon
| Graphics hit the wall in the late 90s. They were the epitome of
| pushing this dream that with visual computing everyone will be
| able to leverage their own intelligence that much more, leading
| to a better world, and it just doesn't seem to happen - we all
| just use it to distract each other instead. In the world today
| you have SGI level graphics in everything, and yet the
| applications of it are so mundane. For example, you don't see
| people doing finance visualizations in immersive 3D, we don't
| see people using VR for Minority Report style interfaces even
| though they are now viable, and even the Mac Finder is no
| longer spatial. Ultimately I think our culture has lost hope in
| the whole idea of visual intelligence.
| kd913 wrote:
| May be true, but that coffee table is still something I want.
|
| Given it existed 16 years ago why did the concept just get
| culled? We are now just left with boring coffee tables, photo
| sharing, music selection, movie picking, event planning, all
| stuck in the same model for the last 15 years.
|
| Where are my smart glasses and HUDs?
|
| We all have gone back to being excited over talking with a
| chatbot via text. Personally I would rather have some mates
| over having fun with the above table.
| zeusk wrote:
| These videos and the VR demos have an eering similarity
| (especially ones from Microsoft and Apple).
| kqr wrote:
| Is even a single one of these concrete enough to be verifiable?
| Is this what passes for hypotheses in our business?
|
| If you make predictions, _please_ make them concrete enough
| (actual numbers!) that we can tell in hindsight whether you were
| right or wrong. Without being able to judge someone 's prediction
| track record, it's all useless for informing any real decision.
| sapiogram wrote:
| I do appreciate that he linked previous years' prediction at
| the bottom. Predictions are still too vague to be falsifiable
| even with hindsight, but it's a start.
| Slartie wrote:
| Well, he promoted remote learning in 2021 to "earn its place"
| in schools.
|
| Reality: absolutely everywhere, remote learning has been a
| shit-show which no one, not the parents, nor the kids, nor
| the teachers, wants to ever repeat.
|
| All other predictions in 2021 were lame and obvious
| continuations of already-old trends. Easy to get those at
| least not totally wrong. The "remote learning" one was new,
| clearly influenced by the pandemic, and thus a risky one. And
| he pulled an epic fail on that one.
| BarryMilo wrote:
| Internet comments are always so polarized... Some people
| liked remote learning, some didn't. I know some college
| profs who were glad to stay home in -20C weather. Others
| hated it even then.
|
| It's true that remote teaching didn't take over the world,
| but I doubt people's appreciation of it had anything to do
| with it. It just wasn't a long enough event to change
| anything permanently.
| vl wrote:
| But he is the CTO at Amazon. All he can do is to signal about
| Amazon positioning and to influence to advance Amazon agenda.
| He can't publish any real predictions. For all we know he can
| actually think completely opposite things from what is
| published, for example.
| bjt12345 wrote:
| Should we short Amazon then?
| ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
| No. They are all pseudo garbage Edgar Cayce style nonsense.
| Just look at his previous year predictions.
|
| This is the problem with this generation of leet coders. They
| have become too soft and put people like this dude and trends
| on a pedestal.
| vl wrote:
| This is interesting honorific, many tech sector workers have
| doctor degrees, but nobody ever calls them doctors.
|
| But curiously it is used in the title, which doesn't follow HN
| title guidelines (i.e. editiorized from original article title).
| senderista wrote:
| IME nobody in US STEM academia uses it either, at least among
| themselves.
|
| AWS uses it in external comms because "Dr." impresses suits.
| tarofchaos wrote:
| lol his 2023 predictions were way off..just saying
| vl wrote:
| Yes, earlier years were a bit better, but still. As CTO of
| Amazon he also needs to push the party line. These
| "predictions" are signaling, not actual predictions, privately
| he can think completely different things.
| nbzso wrote:
| I'm expecting a sobering year for AI in 2024, a result fueled by
| marketing gimmicks, closed training data and weights, false
| promises, chaos in recruiting, more tech layoffs due to economy
| (and false hopes for AI-powered workforce replacement),
| demotivation in the young workforce, etc.
|
| Another reality hit for AI implementation will be the cost of
| generative AI API services and environmental impact of the
| process of training the models.
|
| But I am not a Doctor, and CTO of big monopolist and I don't have
| a stake to sell you AI cloud services. So who knows..
| bluGill wrote:
| I think it will be a few more years before the hype dies down
| enough for sane heads to realize that. Change the year though
| and you are correct.
| reqo wrote:
| Another probable bad side effect of AI will be that a
| generation of developers will become dependent on
| copilot/chatgpt to be able to write code! They will definitely
| perform worse than before llm era without the help of a llm!
| mewpmewp2 wrote:
| Same could be said about developing with Notepad as opposed
| to modern IDEs though.
| thinkingtoilet wrote:
| Did modern IDEs start writing code for you when you made
| the jump from Notepad?
| mjr00 wrote:
| In a lot of ways, yeah. Autocomplete is an absolute game
| changer and one of the biggest reasons that static typing
| came back in vogue and crushed dynamic languages. Massive
| productivity gains when you can ctrl+space and see all of
| the methods available on a variable, or use a hotkey to
| figure out if the method you want to call is `do_foo_bar`
| or `do_foo_and_bar`.
| pipes wrote:
| I'm not sure I buy that argument about dynamic languages.
| You are probably right in that auto complete played a
| role, but for me working on a pure node js app back in
| 2014ish, it was a nightmare of runtime issues that type
| checking would have eliminated. The productivity gain in
| a typed language was not having to write unit tests for
| things that static typing does for free.
| mjr00 wrote:
| I agree with you, autocomplete definitely isn't the only
| reason for static typing making a comeback and dynamic
| language popularity dying off (and the big legacy names
| like Javascript and Python have Typescript and
| mypy/pyright to transform them into a facsimile of one).
| I think a lot of it has to do with maturity, where a lot
| of "move fast and break things" devs who loved untyped
| Node/PHP/Python got burned by bugs and impossible to
| comprehend legacy codebases and slowly realized the value
| of static typing. But that type of understanding takes
| years. A novice programmer can see the value of
| autocomplete and not having to check the docs or
| stackoverflow for the name of a method pretty much
| instantly.
| wintogreen74 wrote:
| autocomplete accurately took care of _a lot_ of the
| boilerplate; that low-hanging fruit has been picked. AI
| is not doing the same IME, the pay-off has been a lot
| slower coming, and sometimes it 's making the work more
| painful.
| mjr00 wrote:
| I do agree. It's hard to get an unbiased assessment of
| how many developers are _actually_ using generative AI
| (copilot /chatgpt) for work, and in what capacity they do
| use them. Anecdotally, at my org of ~40 devs, we
| encouraged everyone to try out Copilot and let us know if
| they wanted a full license; only 2 people took up the
| offer, and they use it either for generating unit tests
| or translating English data logic to pandas syntax (which
| it does seem quite good at!)
| blastro wrote:
| All skills that the AI facilitates will be like this until
| all we can do is operate the AI
| willsmith72 wrote:
| Exactly. We don't need an abacus. We need a human able to
| input the right variables into a computer and get the
| result.
| digging wrote:
| But when would they not have the help of an LLM? We are all
| dependent on the tools we use. That's not a bad thing.
|
| The biggest risk is that it perhaps becomes more difficult to
| sift out bad developers from good ones, because LLMs let bad
| developers "cheat" more easily. But that's not a new problem,
| just a new era of the same problem.
| dewey wrote:
| That's probably what everyone said when auto-complete was
| invented and IDEs were used. The actual code written in most
| cases isn't so important, the architecture, experience in
| building systems and debugging skills across a whole stack
| are what counts.
| runako wrote:
| This argument rears its head every time the state of the art
| in developer tools makes a credible threat to improve.
|
| And yet relatively few developers use C, assembly, or machine
| language as their daily drivers. I've even met accomplished
| developers who don't know how to write a compiler!
|
| It's fine for developers to become dependent on tooling that
| makes them more efficient. This is a good thing, and we want
| more of this!
| dvngnt_ wrote:
| I said the same thing when they made compilers and cobol
| la64710 wrote:
| I don't think one have to be either to see that the future will
| mean increased choices and speed because of AI. Codegen AI
| tools may not do everything a developer do but I see it
| certainly evolving to a point where it can "understand" the
| context of a large code base and generate useful snippets of
| code as per the desires of the product owner. Yeah
| "development" as we know it may become obsolete but it would
| probably be two decades from now.
| echelon wrote:
| > I'm expecting a sobering year for AI in 2024
|
| I expect a sobering year for illustrators [1], animators [2],
| musicians [3], game designers, publishers, and news outlets [4]
| as GenAI starts to make their fields accessible to everyone.
|
| The prevailing opinion on HN is to sleep on this like crypto,
| which is baffling to me. The outputs are so good and are
| leading to entirely new classes of products, not to mention
| orders of magnitude reduction in time and cost structures.
|
| This is the most exciting moment in tech of the last 30 years,
| yet there's so much "nobody would use Dropbox" and "old man
| yells at cloud" negative forecasting.
|
| Entire industries are going to be disrupted by this. Y'all are
| sleeping on it.
|
| [1] https://playgroundai.com/ [2]
| https://pikalabs.org/showcase/ [3] https://www.suno.ai/ [4]
| https://www.channel1.ai/
| mjr00 wrote:
| Comparing generative AI favorably to crypto is an odd choice,
| given that crypto and blockchain are the poster children for
| "massively overhyped tech that led to absolutely nothing."
| echelon wrote:
| I'm comparing HN attitudes. People dismiss AI as if it were
| crypto.
|
| > that led to absolutely nothing.
|
| This is the part most of you are completely blind to. It's
| astonishing to me that you don't see the step function
| changes happening. I guess that means less competition,
| though.
|
| By the end of the year, anyone will be able to make brand
| new Taylor Swift music that sounds good. The average child
| will be able to animate short films.
|
| This is insane. Both the fact that sci-fi possibilities are
| tangibly right ahead of us, and the fact that so many
| people are dismissing it outright.
| mjr00 wrote:
| > By the end of the year, anyone will be able to make
| brand new Taylor Swift music that sounds good. The
| average child will be able to animate short films.
|
| But will I be able to listen to that music and watch
| those films in my fully autonomous vehicle which will be
| available in 2016... I mean 2020... I mean 2025... I mean
| 2040?
| RandomLensman wrote:
| The problem is that while those things might be true,
| their impact might be quite limited. Will all the kids do
| their own short films? Will people stop listening to
| Taylor Swift?
|
| More "trinkets and gadgets" is a continuation of the last
| decade, the real question is if things remain incremental
| (maybe up to a percent more GDP growth) or become truly
| transformational. Claims to the later do invite scrutiny.
| riversflow wrote:
| > anyone will be able to make a brand new Taylor Swift
|
| I was with you until this. I think music is actually
| informative for what we can expect in visual arts and
| generative models generally; synths, drum machines, and
| music production equipment and software share very
| similar qualities with this new stuff, yet we still have
| rockstars like Swift.
| tlivolsi wrote:
| I've been shamed for using LLM's heavily despite my
| productivity being through the roof.
| mjr00 wrote:
| Shamed by whom? And how can those people tell you're using
| LLMs? Is it possible that whatever output you're producing
| with LLMs isn't very good?
| daemonologist wrote:
| I don't think HN is sleeping on generative AI - it's been
| fairly prevalent near the top of the front page.
|
| I agree that some creative fields are going to start feeling
| real impacts, not necessarily because models have gotten
| super creative, but they're becoming more practical for rote
| tasks which otherwise might "pay the bills." For example,
| Google's recent work on style alignment: https://style-
| aligned-gen.github.io/ .
| johnxie wrote:
| On the topic of AI, you've brought up some valid points, and I
| understand the skepticism, especially given the AI hype cycle.
| However, there's also plenty to get excited about beyond the
| marketing gimmicks.
|
| Consider the recent Google demo. It was recreated and, while
| still fun and impressive, it's definitely not ready for
| commercial use. You can see it at
| https://sagittarius.greg.technology. This demo is a preview of
| what's to come, and I think it's important for us to stay open-
| minded.
|
| I believe that in 2024, we're going to witness a significant
| expansion in what's possible with AI, while costs decrease.
| Increased contributions in the open-source community will
| likely fuel another wave of startups and new applications.
| sien wrote:
| Check out this on AWS's Q from Corey Quinn .
|
| https://www.lastweekinaws.com/blog/aws-degenerative-ai-
| blund...
|
| Generative AI is awesome but also crazily overhyped.
|
| Remember when Siri / Alexa / Cortana / the Google thing were
| the big thing?
|
| Now presumably there are more Alexas in cupboards than
| anywhere else.
| rqtwteye wrote:
| I expect this to go down the same way as with the internet in
| 1990s and 2000s. Lots of potential followed by hype, big bubble
| with lots of bad ideas, crash, good ideas survive, wide
| adoption and then AI will be part of everybody's life.
| FredPret wrote:
| ... or death! Let's hope not though.
| WheatMillington wrote:
| >more tech layoffs due to economy
|
| Why do you think the economy will worsen next year?
| willsmith72 wrote:
| > Unburdened by the undifferentiated heavy lifting of tasks like
| upgrading Java versions, developers can focus on the creative
| work that drives innovation.
|
| I totally agree that AI is going to make it easier and easier for
| engineers to get closer to the customer and work on real
| problems. The number of specialist "IT" people, or separate
| backend and frontend classifications, will decrease and the
| startup and product world will greatly benefit.
| Slartie wrote:
| Here's my prediction: 2025 predictions by the Amazon CTO will not
| be written by the Amazon CTO, but by an LLM.
| ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
| Ok literally none of his predictions have any merit. They are
| absolutely bullshit. My bullshit detector has not gone higher
| this month. No wonder he is the CTO of Amazon. All of these
| companies are on their downhill dump.
| pipes wrote:
| I struggled to get through the culturally aware section.
| Apparently the technology should define its responses in terms of
| what ever identity group the user has been lumped into. For some
| reason if it doesn't do this, it won't have the same reach.
| jschveibinz wrote:
| Here are some additional tech predictions relevant to the HN
| community to compare and contrast:
|
| Gartner tech trends: https://www.gartner.com/en/articles/gartner-
| top-10-strategic...
|
| Gartner AI predictions: https://www.cio.inc/future-ai-gartners-
| predictions-for-2024-...
|
| Dell predictions: https://www.dell.com/en-us/perspectives/top-
| tech-predictions...
|
| Deloitte predictions:
| https://www.deloitte.com/global/en/about/press-room/deloitte...
|
| BDO predictions:
| https://www.bdo.com/insights/industries/technology/bdo-tech-...
|
| NTT predictions: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ntt-announces-
| key-technology-...
|
| Techopedia: https://www.techopedia.com/tech-layoffs-predictions
|
| MIT Tech Review:
| https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/02/23/1045416/10-break...
| gregw2 wrote:
| Yeah, there is always the high-level view of these things and the
| low-level.
|
| The way LLMs make stuff up is oft-remarked upon and is unclear
| whether it's a dealbreaker or not but it might be.
|
| Here's an Werner/AWS-specific LLM anecdote along those lines:
|
| I went onto AWS's LLM Q for the first time today, a little chat
| icon nicely/helpfully linked from their documentation pages (when
| logged into my AWS account) and asked it a question which I was
| unable to find an answer in their docs or via
| Google/Bing/StackOverflow after 5-10 minutes of searching.
| What Redshift SQL query can I write to tell whether the instance
| I am connected to is a Redshift Serverless or a Redshift
| Provisioned cluster?
|
| (I have migrated Redshift clusters in Dev/Nonprod to Serverless
| to reduce cost, but featureset is not identical so some of our
| app code is sensitive to the differences and needs to detect
| which type of environment is present before executing. The
| release number, but not the instance type, can be found in
| Redshift SELECT VERSION();.)
|
| AWS Q LLM replies: To check if an Amazon Redshift
| cluster is provisioned or serverless, you can run the following
| SQL query: SELECT cluster_type FROM svv_cluster_info;
| The cluster_type will return either "provisioned" or
| "serverless". You can only connect to and query
| Serverless clusters using the Amazon Redshift Query Editor v2.
| Provisioned clusters can be queried using either Query Editor v1
| or v2. [...+more text on the differences and a
| bulleted list of 3 weblinks/sources provided...]
|
| Wow! Awesome! This answered my question perfectly! The response
| and code is formatted beautifully just like real documentation.
| There are a lot of SVV_ system views and I guess I just missed
| this one. I am at this point very impressed.
|
| I go to actually try the above query on my serverless and
| provisioned clusters... Serverless: SQL Error
| [42P01]: ERROR: relation "svv_cluster_info" does not exist
| Provisioned: SQL Error [42P01]: ERROR: relation
| "svv_cluster_info" does not exist
|
| Another attempt answered similarly affirmatively, this time
| mentioning an imaginary "SVV_CLUSTER" view (which also didn't
| work.)
|
| Even as a chatbot, the most obvious use case, this is is not
| really meeting the mark.
|
| I know it's brand new and rushed out of the door for re:Invent
| two weeks ago and I know it'll get better... but it was a bit
| hard to read Werner's article a few hours later and take it
| seriously. My first Bayesian prior is now a "err, no".
| carlosjobim wrote:
| As long as AI is controlled by Silicon Valley, it will never
| become culturally aware, because the people controlling it are
| not the slightest culturally aware. They think diversity sits in
| the skin colour, and that's about as far as they are willing to
| think about it, because they are intellectually lazy and have
| dead souls, without any curiosity for the world.
|
| They train their AI on some false assumptions that fits their
| political faith, and foreigners who need to use their AIs will
| have to learn about the biases and work around them. Just like it
| is today.
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