[HN Gopher] Dropbox: How to opt out of 3rd party AI partner acce...
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Dropbox: How to opt out of 3rd party AI partner access to your
Dropbox
Author : tosh
Score : 228 points
Date : 2023-12-13 16:44 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| mtmail wrote:
| It was switched-off for me (based in Europe).
|
| Edit: based on their help page "In countries with the preferred
| language set to English. Excluding Canada, the UK (United
| Kingdom), and countries within the EEA (European Economic Area)."
| https://help.dropbox.com/view-edit/privacy-settings-dropbox-...
| jotaen wrote:
| Thanks for posting that link, that sheds a lot of light on this
| topic.
|
| I'm also in the EU, and the button was switched off for me too.
| jeffbee wrote:
| I think this should be switched off, and against the law, but the
| tweet is hyperbolic. It specifically states that the data is not
| for training.
| rchaud wrote:
| So? What is preventing the company from just using it anyway
| and paying a fine later? The culture of these growthmaxxing
| companies pretty much ensures a philosophy of "don't ask for
| permission, ask for forgiveness".
| accrual wrote:
| I didn't see the setting in my Dropbox account. Maybe because I
| have "Early access" disabled? Either way, not a fan of an opt-in
| setting that shares your data when it's supposed to just be a
| place to store files.
|
| > Get access to products and features that Dropbox is still
| testing and evaluating, and give feedback to help our product
| teams build the best final product.
| bluetidepro wrote:
| Just turned it off in my account, appreciate the heads up/post. I
| can't stand when companies turn this type of thing "on" by
| default. Apple pulled the same thing with advertising settings a
| few iOS versions back.
| chankstein38 wrote:
| Right? I "understand" it but I don't understand it. It just
| ends up being gross and shady feeling and giving me a negative
| impression of the company that did it. I use dropbox, pay for
| the upgraded storage, and have for years. I love it. But they
| added some AI and decided I automatically wanted it. Makes me
| question whether I want to continue to be loyal to them.
| schaefer wrote:
| I didn't hear about that one. How can I check the new settings
| in my Apple account?
| bluetidepro wrote:
| It was back in 2018 or 2019, I believe. I THINK it was maybe
| iOS 15? Here is an old Verge article I found that you can
| check your settings: https://www.theverge.com/22309965/block-
| ad-iphone-data-how-t... - It was turning off "Personalized
| Ads" in your settings. I believe today in iOS 17 it lives in
| `Settings > Privacy > Apple Advertising`
| dylan604 wrote:
| why do you trust that the setting does anything?
| tmpz22 wrote:
| > I can't stand when companies turn this type of thing "on" by
| default.
|
| If you _force_ people to do something they are more likely to
| do it then if you don 't _force_ them. Especially if they don
| 't consent to doing it.
| seanhunter wrote:
| Dropbox has form. The reason I shut my account is they used the
| root permission you give when you install the package to give
| back accessibility access permissions to their app after I had
| turned them off. They then claimed (in a very mealy mouthed
| reply) that this had been done because people turned these
| permissions off by accident and so they were trying to be
| helpful. Here's that thread for people who want the context
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12464730
| nh2 wrote:
| (How) Can I turn that off for the entire company account?
| nh2 wrote:
| Changing the setting redirects me to
| "https://www.dropbox.com/team/admin/settings/ai" in the Admin
| Console so I assume this controls it for the entire team.
| vlovich123 wrote:
| I can't seem to find this setting. Is it getting rolled out
| slowly?
| barbazoo wrote:
| In Canada, I also couldn't find this setting.
| bonestamp2 wrote:
| In the US, not seeing this either. I do have a free account
| though, not sure if that makes a difference.
| uxjw wrote:
| I'm in Canada and I had it. I'm on a paid account.
| barbazoo wrote:
| I stopped paying a long time ago before actually deleting
| my account today. So maybe the setting was implicitly
| turned on for non-paying customers. Wouldn't surprise me.
| ahartman00 wrote:
| US here, I can't see it either. I noticed the tweet mentions
| European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS), is this EU only?
| AdamH12113 wrote:
| My company is in the US. I just checked and found that we have
| the setting in our admin console and it was on by default. We
| do have a paid business account.
| rytor718 wrote:
| Try going to your account then from the menu go to Settings >
| Third-party AI
|
| Heres what the link looks like for me in the US:
| https://www.dropbox.com/account/ai
|
| Paid subscribers can see it in US, not sure whether it depends
| on the subscription tier though.
| anticensor wrote:
| Not in Turkey either.
| chankstein38 wrote:
| I'm in the US on a paid account and I had it.
| jansenmac wrote:
| Im in the Netherlands and also dont see the setting. Using a
| basic (free) account.
| PeterisP wrote:
| I don't have it (from EU), so this may be limited to a subset
| of users, but in any case I believe that it would have to be
| opt-in for EU users.
| keyanp wrote:
| This tweet is sort of misleading, the docs suggest this is
| basically them using an API to provide AI features:
| https://help.dropbox.com/view-edit/privacy-settings-dropbox-...
|
| > Your files within Dropbox are sent to a third-party AI only
| when you chose to interact with AI powered features. For example,
| when you ask a question about a file.
| tosh wrote:
| > chose to interact with AI powered features
|
| puts the burden on the user to understand what an "AI powered
| feature" is
| barbazoo wrote:
| Reminded me to finally delete my account of... 15 years!!! Good
| riddance.
| wildpeaks wrote:
| Direct link to the setting: https://www.dropbox.com/account/ai
| wormius wrote:
| just routes to /account/general for me, no ai, and no ai
| options. strange.
| EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote:
| Same for me. Are you a free user too? Might be that only
| Premium users get built in AI.
| ragebol wrote:
| Same for me? I'm in Europe, maybe that makes a difference
| perhaps?
| fredgrott wrote:
| bad UI and company design...one should NEVER EVER cause any user
| of any service to take extra actions to respect their rights and
| data. It should be the reverse...if you want to use AI or have AI
| use your data then you need to take extra steps...
|
| This is dark patterns all over again
| rchaud wrote:
| Dropbox crossed the bad UI rubicon for me when it limited
| upload speed on my free account to sub-dial up rates. This was
| in 2012.
|
| I just put everything in Google Drive and a USB stick and have
| never looked at DB again.
| thejohnconway wrote:
| Limited your upload speed on a free account? I'd hardly call
| that a dark pattern.
| rchaud wrote:
| The transfer speed is slower than using Bluetooth. Free
| users would have dumped the tool immediately. What DB did
| was throttle the speed only after I had uploaded a set of
| files, and then bug me to upgrade to paid.
| waynesonfire wrote:
| It's not at all strange to me that Dropbox deployed this dark
| pattern. What really stood out to me is that, this post was made
| by the CTO of Amazon.
|
| > did I agree to this somewhere?
|
| The CTO of Amazon uses Dropbox?!
| crop_rotation wrote:
| Amazon has no competitive consumer product to dropbox, and he
| rightfully might want to separate his work and personal data.
| Can't really expect one to use S3 as a dropbox replacement.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Does Dropbox not use S3 as its backend? I would not be
| shocked to learn that it does
| ishanjain28 wrote:
| perhaps you should be a little shocked to hear if they are
| using s3(they are not). s3 is awesome but it's not supposed
| to be used absolutely everywhere.
| crop_rotation wrote:
| Whether dropbox uses S3 or not is irrelevant. Dropbox and
| equivalents are much higher level products not replaceable
| with an object store.
| waynesonfire wrote:
| He is the CTO. He is in charge of Amazon Drive. He has the
| authority to implement any missing feature for his use-case.
| crop_rotation wrote:
| Yes and as the CTO it is better to understand what products
| make sense for Amazon customers and implement those,
| instead of what he wants to use personally.
| autoexec wrote:
| People should be encrypting their files before uploading them to
| the cloud. Then it won't matter who your data is shared with.
| pbowyer wrote:
| How would you recommend doing that in a transparent way on
| MacOS/Windows/Linux?
| chdlr wrote:
| Something like Cryptomator (https://cryptomator.org/)
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| [dupe] / Related:
|
| _Dropbox is sharing your files with AI partners without opt-in_
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38627751
| zffr wrote:
| This is the description on Dropbox's website
|
| > Use artificial intelligence (AI) from third-party partners so
| you can work faster in Dropbox. We only use technology partners
| we have vetted. Your data is never used to train their internal
| models, and is deleted from third-party servers within 30 days.
| AdamH12113 wrote:
| For people who can't or won't access Twitter, the setting for
| individual accounts is here:
|
| https://www.dropbox.com/account/ai
|
| and the setting for team accounts in the admin console is here:
|
| https://www.dropbox.com/team/admin/settings/ai
|
| Ours (for a US business account) was on by default. The text for
| the setting is:
|
| > _Let team members use artificial intelligence (AI) so they can
| work faster in Dropbox. We only use technology partners we have
| vetted. Your organization's data is never used to train their
| internal models, and is deleted from third-party servers within
| 30 days._
|
| There's a "learn more" link that goes here:
|
| https://help.dropbox.com/view-edit/privacy-settings-dropbox-...
|
| Dropbox claims that they "won't let our third-party partners
| train their models on our user data without consent". The page
| further claims that the participation option is on by default for
| teams "participating in the Dropbox AI alpha", but I don't think
| we signed up for any such thing and the option was still on for
| us. I checked the settings and we are not currently enrolled. I
| have zero confidence that "consent" to use our data for model
| training won't also default to opt-in.
|
| The page further states that Dropbox currently has one AI partner
| -- OpenAI.
| jkaplowitz wrote:
| I see no such setting, for my free personal account which is
| currently overfull and not syncing due to having previously had
| some temporary promotional space above my current limit. Is
| this setting not present for everyone? If relevant, I am
| currently in Germany, although my account was created in either
| the US or Canada (I forget which).
| toyg wrote:
| I'm in UK and I also don't have it.
|
| I suspect there is a Great Deal of Precautionary Rationale
| (eh) protecting the Eurosphere from the worst privacy abuses.
| rchaud wrote:
| In the Twitter post the OP says he is based in the EU.
| hysan wrote:
| I'm in the US and don't see it either.
| m4tthumphrey wrote:
| I'm in the UK and I can see it. It was off.
| mystcb wrote:
| Oddly enough, I am in the UK - and I do have it, but it was
| already turned off when I went there. I wonder if things
| have changed, or there are some canary releases of the
| box... or am I just completely unaware my account isn't
| considered a UK-based account?
| atomicfiredoll wrote:
| I'm in the U.S. and don't see it on my free account either. I
| also don't have early access features turned on, so I wonder
| if it could be related to that. [Or, as is mentioned in some
| other comments, maybe free accounts don't have the option
| because they can't access AI powered features.]
| Log_out_ wrote:
| It has to be on initially for later plausible denial..
| mbesto wrote:
| To be fair to Dropbox that page also states:
|
| > _" Your files within Dropbox are sent to a third-party AI
| only when you chose to interact with AI powered features. For
| example, when you ask a question about a file. "_
|
| > _" If you or your team is participating in the Dropbox AI
| alpha, the Third-party AI toggle in your account settings is
| turned On by default. Only the content relevant to an explicit
| request or command is sent to our third-party AI partners to
| generate an answer, summary, or transcript."_
|
| Basically, its saying "if you use AI tools, we'll send your
| data to a 3p, but if you don't, we're not".
|
| The issue really is if they turned on a feature in the future
| "ask a question about this document" and you didn't know it
| meant that the document was sent over to OpenAI.
| hedora wrote:
| Doing this without opt-in should be illegal.
|
| We need blanket minimum privacy protections at a national level,
| and they should treat internal repurposing of data the same as
| third party sharing.
|
| Since all major players in our industry have shown they can't be
| trusted to curate large collections of sensitive data, inclusion
| in such internal datasets should be opt in as well.
|
| Dropbox is a poster child for "this should be E2E encrypted", so,
| yes, I'm arguing they should get your explicit opt-in before they
| are allowed to store unencrypted data or escrow keys on their
| end, and that the opt-in shouldn't be required to use their
| services.
| VWWHFSfQ wrote:
| > Dropbox is a poster child for "this should be E2E encrypted"
|
| how would you implement some very trivial features like even
| being able to search though
| rvnx wrote:
| At least basic encryption. Remember one day, Dropbox forgot
| _in production_ to check passwords of users. So you only had
| to enter email to access the Dropbox of the user (an open
| "log as" feature).
| YetAnotherNick wrote:
| What do you mean by "basic encryption". Either dropbox
| could access our files or it couldn't without
| authentication from us. If it couldn't how would search or
| indexing work.
| ginsbergjason wrote:
| Thats crazy, do you know if there's an article about
| Dropbox breaking auth? Don't remember hearing about it.
| rvnx wrote:
| https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/dropbox-confirms-
| security-...
| ginsbergjason wrote:
| we've implemented E2EE search (and pretty much every feature
| you would expect) on https://skiff.com/drive
| drstewart wrote:
| are you pledging to make every new feature that's ever
| developed opt-in on risk of jail time for you personally?
| PeterisP wrote:
| I've used Dropbox for 13 years and I have never noticed that
| they have a cloud search feature, nor have I ever needed
| that. It syncs to my machines where I have my local search
| working in the exact same manner as for non-Dropbox data -
| why does Dropbox need a special search, one where _they_
| would search my unencrypted data?
| Sirikon wrote:
| Paying customer here: Mine was disabled, for the record.
| mdswanson wrote:
| For balance, paying customer here, and mine was enabled.
| techwizrd wrote:
| I'm a paying customer and mine was enabled as well, and this
| is the first I'm even hearing about it. That's not a good
| feeling.
| amilich wrote:
| It's enough of other companies making money on our data. That's
| why I started Skiff (end-to-end encrypted
| email/docs/drive/calendar)! It's harder to build products E2EE
| but you get long-term trust from users.
| veg wrote:
| Correct me if I'm wrong but this seems like a poorly messaged
| setting and an overreaction by users on X. Sounds like they will
| use a commercial AI when you use Dropbox AI to ask about a
| document.
| wrs wrote:
| Yes, specifically they use the OpenAI API to implement their
| alpha AI features.
|
| https://help.dropbox.com/view-edit/privacy-settings-dropbox-...
| rchaud wrote:
| In that case your organization account should make the decision
| on enablinng this capability, Dropbox should not have carte
| blanche to scan your content ahead of time.
| Imnimo wrote:
| The tweet seems to contradict the screenshot.
| ginsbergjason wrote:
| this kind of bullshit is why we started https://skiff.com/drive
| shapenamer wrote:
| I would like to check it out but I'm physically unable to
| select any product from the product drop down list... Not the
| most confidence inspiring thing I've seen.
| ginsbergjason wrote:
| Which browser are you using? Having trouble reproducing.
| shapenamer wrote:
| Firefox https://streamable.com/5omhv0
|
| Maybe I'm an idiot but I literally can't navigate your
| website lol.
| rambambram wrote:
| I rsync my files to a local drive and FTP it to something
| remote, so no need for this. But I gotta say, that's a
| beautiful website!
| mrngm wrote:
| Logged into Dropbox to see (EU based). Setting wasn't there.
| Clicking through to the quoted tweet, they also report further on
| in their thread: _I created the account when I was in the US, but
| now in the EU._
| (https://twitter.com/Werner/status/1734898806708166709)
|
| In the "What's new" part within the Dropbox environment, I did
| find a note dated October 10, 2023:
|
| _Quickly find the content you need with Dropbox AI_
|
| _Dropbox AI for search helps you get the information you need
| without the hassle of manually searching through Dropbox. Ask a
| question about your Dropbox content and get a response within
| seconds. You can also find the files you need with everyday
| language instead of searching by keywords, and search results now
| come with a brief summary of each file._
|
| _Then, once you've opened individual files, Dropbox AI for file
| previews now lets you save time and effort by summarizing your
| content, from long documents to lengthy videos, into a clear and
| concise explanation with the click of a button._
|
| _Dropbox AI is currently in alpha and available in the US in EN
| only for Dropbox Pro, Standard, Advanced, Essentials, Business,
| and Business Plus. Some features may be available soon for
| eligible non-US customers to test._
| sgbeal wrote:
| > Logged into Dropbox to see (EU based). Setting wasn't there.
|
| FWIW, just checked mine (EU-based "pro" account), and the
| setting is there but was OFF. i have never specifically engaged
| any features regarding AI in dropbox.
|
| i do recall seeing a popup in the web interface sometime in the
| past month about having AI summarize file content and i closed
| the popup without tapping anything which remotely appeared to
| be a consent button.
| t0mas88 wrote:
| Others in the EU are reporting it's off by default for them
| as well. So it's probably configured deliberately as opt-out
| in the US and opt-in in Europe.
|
| I would call that a win for European privacy regulation.
| JohnFen wrote:
| And doubly scummy behavior on the part of Dropbox.
| pwb25 wrote:
| this sounds so stupid. how can some AI help me find what I need
| when I know what I need and use a manual search? That's like
| the definition of search
| shwouchk wrote:
| hey dropbox, get me that pdf about dinosaurs that I last
| accessed about 6 months ago
| rchaud wrote:
| Nitter link: https://nitter.net/Werner/status/1734890651378975007
|
| It took a while, but the arc of history is starting to bend in
| favour of that guy who said 'just use rsync' on Drobox's Show HN
| post in 2007.
| capableweb wrote:
| > It took a while, but the arc of history is starting to bend
| in favour of that guy who said 'just use rsync' on Drobox's
| Show HN post in 2007.
|
| It be interesting to see a breakdown on "time spent" between
| the people who went with Dropbox and started syncing stuff
| right away VS the people who first setup their own
| infrastructure to do the same thing.
| tinyhouse wrote:
| What are you talking about? They have almost 20M paying users
| for a reason. Good luck asking all people in your company to
| use rsync.
| jacquesm wrote:
| He's talking about the fact that those people don't need to
| worry about third parties accessing their files without their
| consent.
| SoftTalker wrote:
| I guess that depends on where you are rsync-ing to?
| throwup238 wrote:
| It was FTP [1]. If only he had said rsync, we wouldn't be here
| now /s
|
| [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
| neilv wrote:
| I'd still assume that the bulk of Dropbox users are the kind
| who wouldn't want to figure out `rsync`.
|
| For better or worse, even enough grad students at MIT (which
| used to be one of the more computers-clueful places) used
| Dropbox so heavily that _they included the Dropbox logo on the
| grad class ring_ :
|
| https://thetech.com/2013/09/06/gradrat-v133-n35
|
| The class rings have considerable symbolism, and are very
| important to some. I've heard that the rings can also be real
| icebreakers at some startup events (between people with MIT
| connections):
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_class_ring
| zozbot234 wrote:
| > I'd still assume that the bulk of Dropbox users are the
| kind who wouldn't want to figure out `rsync`.
|
| That's because OS's don't bother to support rsync with good
| UX. That's what the old "My Briefcase" feature in Windows 9x
| was all about. It even had special-case support for
| difference merging (or "reconciliation") which rsync alone
| doesn't quite provide.
| rchaud wrote:
| Average users don't want to figure anything out: adblockers,
| torrents, cloud sync, you name it.
|
| It's only when they get screwed by the vendor that they
| realize that having a non-commercial, non-enshittified
| alternative is crucial to counterbalance tech company
| malfeasance.
| EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote:
| rsync ... to where? You need to rent a server first. And to do
| that you need a credit card. And if you die, said credit card
| gets canceled, as is your server, as is all your data. Happened
| to me with a paid Dropbox account - card expired, all data
| lost. A free Dropbox account has an advantage that it is good
| for eternity (well, not a guarantee, but a reasonable
| assumption). Also good for privacy.
|
| I do rsync too (robocopy, to be exact), and I prepaid the
| server for 2 years, but still, dropbox plays an important role
| in ensuring longevity of my data.
| charcircuit wrote:
| rsync doesn't offer AI capabilities. If you want to roll your
| own integration with OpenAI then you will still be sending data
| to OpenAI.
| sneak wrote:
| If you care about your data being private and not shared, why
| would you use a non-end-to-end-encrypted service like Dropbox in
| the first place, where the provider can see all of your data and
| share it as they please?
|
| Make the choice once, up front, and then you can't be surprised
| by things like this.
| cynicalsecurity wrote:
| Mega encrypts everything by design. Why use corporate crap and
| keep up with their lying to you when you can use products that
| don't steal your data. I'm surprised Dropbox is still in
| business. At some point their fancy product name won't save them
| from the consequences of their lying to the customers.
| jacquesm wrote:
| If you click the setting to 'off' you are making the assumption
| that your stated desire will be honored and that there won't be
| another move like that in the future. The better move would be to
| stop using Dropbox, that way you are really sure that your files
| won't be accessed by unauthorized parties.
|
| I _really_ don 't get what drives companies like Dropbox to throw
| their carefully built up reputation under the bus like this.
| sorokod wrote:
| Greed.
| jacquesm wrote:
| If true: what does OpenAI pay dropbox for access to their
| customers' files? And what kind of guarantees are there that
| OpenAI stays within the lines, because all of these AI
| companies are looking for as much non-AI tainted data as they
| can get their grubby little fingers on for training purposes.
| rubberband wrote:
| It's possible OpenAI doesn't get any money; and they just
| provide whatever "AI service" is being requested of them,
| and returns the results to Dropbox.
|
| And, well, if OpenAI just _happens_ to gain access to a
| trove of data by providing the service... -\\_(tsu)_ /-
| SteveNuts wrote:
| Most laypeople have _no idea_ what any of this means, and that
| 's if they even hear about it at all.
|
| The tech community that's clued into this is such a small
| percentage, unfortunately.
|
| Funny anecdote: remember when those "I do not consent to
| facebook using my data" messages that were, ironically, posted
| to people's facebook walls?
| doomslice wrote:
| All this setting does is make the feature available to you in
| the frontend -- it's up to you to use it or not!
| flippy_flops wrote:
| Companies like Dropbox see reputation as capital. Keep a
| little, but spend most of it on growth.
| Gys wrote:
| > Your data is never used to train their internal models, and is
| deleted from third-party servers within 30 days.
|
| Sure, because they paid you money for access and are very
| trustworthy people.
| Gys wrote:
| Seems optional opt out is EU only...
| throwaway5959 wrote:
| What the fuck?! How is this not opt-in?!
| shapenamer wrote:
| Just checked my account and this option was on. Turned it off but
| it's completely unacceptable that it was on in the first place.
| If anyone has any good alternatives please let me know.
| Preferably encrypted options.
| neonnomad wrote:
| There are some options:
|
| Mega.io
|
| Proton Drive
|
| Rclone to your own encrypted bucket
|
| Mountain Duck / Cloud Mounter to your own encrypted bucket
| butz wrote:
| Oh, Proton Drive. When will they release a client for Linux?
| And when they will start adding AI to all Proton products?
| caconym_ wrote:
| I use a synology NAS on my home network with syncthing over a
| wireguard tunnel for dropbox-esque functionality from anywhere
| (only problem is poor iOS support). Nightly snapshotting to
| backblaze.
| shapenamer wrote:
| I've been looking at options, and while mega seems good they
| also seem to happily hand over your data to authorities, which
| means it's not really encrypted, or might as well not be.
|
| I've seen skiff shilled a few times here and on the twitter
| thread but the website is too annoying for me lol.
|
| Currently thinking I'm going to mess with filen.io tonight. It
| has a linux client and is e2e encrypted. Still looking and open
| to suggestions though.
| ginsbergjason wrote:
| :'(
| hosh wrote:
| Is there something similar to this for Google Drive?
| Velofellow wrote:
| I just checked my company's account. Third Party AI-Integrations
| were defaulted to "On" despite our company having a paid personal
| account.
|
| My free personal account (still for work) does not have any
| active third party integration.
| pwb25 wrote:
| Wat? Shouldn't it be the opposite way, that you turn this on?
| those SV companies are getting hubris
| vlovich123 wrote:
| So to anyone wondering, I'm getting the sense is that the option
| is only available for paid / business accounts. My hunch is that
| the reason free accounts don't see it is that they don't get to
| opt out & are forced in - it wouldn't make sense that they opt-in
| paid/ENT but then exclude free accounts altogether vs free
| accounts are opt-in and can't choose. Alternatively, may be it
| isn't relevant to free accounts because they don't have access to
| AI-related features: https://help.dropbox.com/view-edit/privacy-
| settings-dropbox-...
|
| The data isn't used for training, only for inference & DropBox
| and OpenAI pinky promise to delete any data sent to them within
| 30 days.
| dbmikus wrote:
| I'd actually guess that free accounts don't have the "toggle
| AI" option because they just disable AI inference for free
| users. LLM inference is pretty expensive.
| pmags wrote:
| I have a free account and this option was turned on by default
| (with the option to disable it).
|
| Talk about scummy....
| nathants wrote:
| the best way to do this is with:
|
| https://cryptomator.org
| edrxty wrote:
| META: Why is this not on the front page? It has more points than
| almost every other story and less time than most.
| caconym_ wrote:
| The best way to opt out of Dropbox's abusive practices is to pull
| all your data out into a self-hosted or trustworthy e2e solution
| and close your account. You should need no more proof than this
| incident that Dropbox will not ask you before doing things with
| your data that you would have strenuously objected to if they
| had.
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