[HN Gopher] Dune: Part Two - Official Trailer 3 [video]
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Dune: Part Two - Official Trailer 3 [video]
Author : marban
Score : 24 points
Date : 2023-12-12 18:14 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| fjfaase wrote:
| It contains a lot of new footage from scenes we have not see yet.
| If you would put all the fragments from the three trailers in the
| right order, you would already get quite a lot of the story. That
| is a problem with trailers, they can become too revealing almost
| leaving nothing to be looking forward when watching the film
| itself.
| devonnull wrote:
| On the other hand, this film is based on a well-known and
| widely-read novel that's had two adaptations already. For a lot
| of people, there are going to be no surprises. The trailer is
| just a visual treat.
| boppo1 wrote:
| I read the book and it seems there are some heavy liberties
| being taken with the writing. I'll wait until it's out to
| pass judgement.
| yifanl wrote:
| But how can you trust these visions of the future are accurate?
| duskwuff wrote:
| There's something incredibly ironic about trailers "spoiling"
| content in a series which is, in great part, about the power of
| prophecy and predestination.
| hydrok9 wrote:
| Richard Brody said it best: "Dune: A movie sanded to dullness."
| ShamelessC wrote:
| Who?
| Slow_Hand wrote:
| A critic so droll, elitist, and contrarian that Charlie
| Kaufman wrote an entire novel (Antkind) satirizing him by
| proxy.
| hydrok9 wrote:
| you left out "Correct!"
| hrpnk wrote:
| Highly recommended to read Book 1 before the movie comes out.
| There is just so much more depth and context in the book that was
| not reflected in 1st part of the film.
| vitiral wrote:
| I almost think it's impossible to enjoy the movie at all
| without having read the book. The movie was more like visual
| candy for a universe similar to the book.
| hulitu wrote:
| I would say, David Lynch did a pretty good job.
| jmorenoamor wrote:
| I strangely love Lynch's Dune, the atmosphere captivated me
| as a kid, and the feeling has stayed there. The Harkonen were
| disgusting, repulsive, and Irulan at the intro was a teen
| crush for me.
|
| I also love Villeneuve's version, the design is amazing and
| has very clever ideas, I enjoyed it a lot! But Lynch's Dune
| has a special place for me.
| dredmorbius wrote:
| I saw it at the time, having read the books (through
| _Heretics_ , with _Chapterhouse_ being published after the
| 1984 film). I 've yet to see any of the subsequent or current
| production(s) absent online clips.
|
| The biggest problem with Lynch version (I think of it as the
| De Laurentiis version, as his name eclipsed Lynch's in the
| promotions at the time, and Lynch hadn't yet risen in stature
| with _Twin Peaks_ ) is that the story is simply too vast to
| be told in a single film, let alone one of < 140 minutes
| running time.
|
| Other than that ... the De Laurentiis version was _very_
| uneven. Parts of it were excellent. Kyle McLaughlin as Paul
| was excellently cast, and there were several other notable
| players and performances (many of whom I wouldn 't appreciate
| until much later), and when the sandworms appeared on screen,
| _I believed_. Other effects and editing ... not so much.
| Critics overwhelmingly panned the film, and it performed
| quite poorly at the box office.
|
| The clips I've seen of Harrison's 3-part miniseries by John
| Harrison, and the current Villeneuve production, look
| considerably stronger.
| hulitu wrote:
| I liked that Lynch somehow preserved the mythology. In
| contrast, the new Dune, looks like an action movie.
| vitiral wrote:
| Possible spoilers below (but probably not if you've seen the
| first movie or read any of the books)
|
| I enjoyed the first movie, but they fucked with things they
| shouldn't have. Dune's technology was cleverly laid out to create
| a kind of scifi fantasy world of swords and wizards. The 100%
| effective shields could ONLY be penetrated by a skilled knife
| wielder, creating a scifi world of knights. The bene Gesserit
| served the role of mystic and wizard, which the Kwisatz Haderach
| could finally unify.
|
| It offers a very in your face style combat, which sets up the
| Dune Fremen as the strongest force in the galaxy. However, the
| movie effectively stripped the value of personal shields: they
| are penetrated by dart guns as well as conventional explosives.
| This effectively nullifies the whole advantage the Fremen would
| give. AFAICT they did so in order to have more ships and
| explosions.
|
| (There's also the original shield+lasgun=nuclear-detonation,
| which I always found absurd since it would be trivial to have a
| remote controlled lasgun demolish any target. If they had nerfed
| anything I would have nerfed the lasgun, not the shield)
| duskwuff wrote:
| > since it would be trivial to have a remote controlled lasgun
| demolish any target
|
| This is specifically mentioned, and carried out, in the _Dune_
| novel.
|
| The justification for why it isn't more common is that the
| resulting explosion is indistinguishable from a nuclear
| explosion, and the Great Convention strictly forbids the use of
| nuclear weapons.
| mlry wrote:
| As far as I remember the explosion created by a lasgun-shield
| effect was indistinguishable from a nuclear explosion. Nuclear
| weapons were banned, their use heavily sanctioned. I think
| there was a hint that the use of atomics would immediately
| bring in the combined forces of the Landsraad Great Houses
| totally annihilating the perpetrator. That effectively
| prevented the use of the lasgun-shield effect. Though the
| Fremen set up some shields during the final battle for Arrakeen
| (in the first book) to draw Sardaukar lasgun fire, thus giving
| them a lesson to be a little bit more restrained on the use of
| lasguns.
| jackallis wrote:
| absolutely not watching the trailer; will watch the movie w/out
| knowing single thing that is about to happen, visually, in movie.
|
| book series is must read if you want richer experience.
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