[HN Gopher] A rare occultation of Betelgeuse
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       A rare occultation of Betelgeuse
        
       Author : 1970-01-01
       Score  : 80 points
       Date   : 2023-12-11 19:25 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (spaceweatherarchive.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (spaceweatherarchive.com)
        
       | trey-jones wrote:
       | This seems an extremely strange coincidence to me, since I
       | haven't often noted the extremely bright, redish star in Orion's
       | shoulder, but I did last night, at about 10:00 PM EST. I don't
       | suppose any brightening effect would have been expected because
       | of this? I thought it was possibly Mars, but didn't look into it.
        
         | teraflop wrote:
         | Nope, Mars is currently on the opposite side of the sky from
         | Orion (and only a few degrees away from the sun, so it's
         | difficult to see at all).
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | Betelgeuse does fluctuate in brightness from 0 to +1.6 apparent
         | magnitude which makes it pretty bright. In fact, it is listed
         | at the 10th brightest star[0]. It should be recognizable
         | anytime you look up during season if it is not cloudy. I can
         | see it in light polluted urban areas. As the saying goes, keep
         | looking up!
         | 
         | There are 3 bright red dots that I use as sign posts, and it is
         | fairly easy to narrow down which one it is. Is it part of Orion
         | (easily ID'd by the belt and sword), then it is Betelgeuse. Is
         | it part of Scorpio (ID'd by seeing the pinchers up and to the
         | right), then it is Antares. Else, it is Mars. The fun thing
         | about Scorpio is that it is a guide to finding the central
         | portion of the Milky Way. You could also add winter/summer as
         | filters in that as well.
         | 
         | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_brightest_stars
        
       | jihadjihad wrote:
       | I was excited to check it out last night, as it was clear in my
       | area and I had a nice view of Orion. But then I realized you had
       | to be waaaay down south, like southern FL, to see it :(
        
         | pickleberto wrote:
         | I was in Miami, but it was cloudy. :(
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | Welcome to astronomy! If it's not an issue with local cloud
         | coverage, it'll be an issue of not being visible from your
         | area. But when it does happen! To me, it's better than the
         | proverbial golf shot. Even though I've experienced the golf
         | shot, I've never spent thousands of dollars on anything golf
         | related. I've never stood out in the freezing cold in the
         | middle of the night working on a golf swing. Also unlike golf,
         | you can get assistance and people are typically happy to
         | provide it.
        
       | 1970-01-01 wrote:
       | This was the result:
       | 
       | https://spaceweathergallery2.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=...
        
         | anthrokwos wrote:
         | Did anyone capture it in video format, with a high-ISO camera
         | mounted to a telescope? It would be fun to see it, if it's
         | possible with today's image sensors.
        
           | bongodongobob wrote:
           | That's likely what the picture is and according to the
           | caption you could barely notice.
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | It happened over several seconds, and would have been so
           | faint that you won't notice it without heavy video
           | processing.
        
       | sdwvit wrote:
       | Post date is 1970-01-01. Interesting.
        
         | frutiger wrote:
         | That's the user name of the submitter.
        
           | pavel_lishin wrote:
           | I did a double take as well - what an excellent username.
        
             | pelagicAustral wrote:
             | Unix timestamp stating date (?)
        
             | sgt wrote:
             | I figured it might be a pg bug that reset the story's
             | timestamp to 0.
        
         | nojs wrote:
         | It's a username
        
       | crooked-v wrote:
       | Just be careful about saying the name too much during such occult
       | conditions.
        
       | cbm-vic-20 wrote:
       | Let's say Betelgeuse exploded 550 years ago, and I happen to be
       | looking at the star at the exact moment the light/EM reaches the
       | earth. Would it be bright enough to cause an injury? If at night,
       | would it make shadows on the ground next to me?
        
         | its_ethan wrote:
         | It will be comparable in brightness to a full Moon I believe.
         | 
         | Found this source quickly that says more like a half-moon, but
         | it's all just estimates really.
         | https://www.astronomy.com/science/when-betelgeuse-goes-super...
         | 
         | I think it's safe to say it would be unlikely to cause any
         | damage to your eyes if you happened to be watching.
        
           | onlyrealcuzzo wrote:
           | For how long would it be that bright?
        
           | crubier wrote:
           | Full moon energy concentrated on a small dot that has
           | 100,000x smaller angular area might be able to damage your
           | eye? I don't know, I didn't do the math
        
       | deadbabe wrote:
       | Wouldn't total occultation of a star be a great way to send
       | signals to far away civilizations?
        
         | larperdoodle wrote:
         | The star is occulted by a small asteroid in our solar system.
         | For something in the Betelgeuse system to occult the star, it
         | would have to be about the same size as the star.
         | 
         | We detect the presence of planets in other systems when they
         | pass between us and the star, marginally decreasing the
         | brightness.
         | 
         | Not a great way to send messages long distances
        
           | midasuni wrote:
           | If a star vanishes because you build a Dyson sphere that's
           | one way of sending a message
        
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