[HN Gopher] Pitivi - Free video editor with a beautiful and intu...
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Pitivi - Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user
interface
Author : pabs3
Score : 260 points
Date : 2023-12-11 00:18 UTC (22 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.pitivi.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.pitivi.org)
| j45 wrote:
| Looks nice.
|
| A quick packaging for windows and Mac could let non technical
| folks wanting to edit video easily adopt something like this.
|
| Maybe in the meantime a quick how-to install a virtual machine
| and edit within.
| dgreensp wrote:
| Yes, I get the impression it only runs on Linux? And we're
| supposed to infer that by the fact that it's "distro-agnostic"
| and sometimes the word Free is capitalized in the middle of a
| sentence. Because if you're in the right place, you're already
| running a Free OS.
| j45 wrote:
| Free can run on many OS'
| foxylad wrote:
| Does anyone have experience of both Pitivi and Openshot?
| em-bee wrote:
| i have used both for one project or another. but it has been a
| while. my main reason for trying different video editors was
| that some were not able to create videos from single jpg frames
| for a stop motion animation. but apart from that the editing of
| video streams worked well enough in both.
| kmoser wrote:
| Unfortunately the videos on the showcase page don't play on
| Firefox or Chrome (Windows): https://www.pitivi.org/showcase/
| siddbudd wrote:
| not on Mac either (tested in Firefox, Vivaldi and Safari)
| gl-prod wrote:
| It's because bad HTTPs
| renewiltord wrote:
| Unfortunately, when I last tried this a couple of years ago (I
| think), it crashed frequently. It could be my fault since I was
| using nouveau drivers.
| ReactiveJelly wrote:
| I was gonna ask that. Every video editor I've tried, even back
| to Windows Movie Maker, crashed frequently.
|
| I don't know why. ffmpeg is rock-solid. Modern CPUs are good
| enough that you can basically handle 1080p without touching
| accelerators.
|
| Multi-threading is not impossible to get right in C++. So why
| do they all crash?
| GiorgioG wrote:
| Try DaVinci Resolve
| th0ma5 wrote:
| Only works on like RedHat? No other Linux
| knifie_spoonie wrote:
| I've successfully run it on KDE Neon (Ubuntu based)
| atoav wrote:
| Had no problems running it on kubuntu 22
| amarshall wrote:
| Only officially supported on RedHat, perhaps. Works well
| on many other distros (I run it on NixOS).
| semi-extrinsic wrote:
| It runs well on Arch.
| loufe wrote:
| Seconded, it is a seriously high quality product and free
| as in beer in the best way.
| prmoustache wrote:
| That doesn't answer the question. What make many video
| editors, regardless of their licence, so crash prone?
|
| Image/photo editors never crash (or so rarely), same for
| most modern audio editors / DAWs and the later can use an
| awful lot of memory too.
| pepa65 wrote:
| Probably the state of video drivers.
| erremerre wrote:
| Not saying that you aren't right.
|
| But using Davinci Resolve in an old cpu (as in 2012 cpu) it
| is a complete pain.
| gamblor956 wrote:
| That sounds like a RAM issue.
|
| If you've got a faulty RAM chip, a memory-intensive use like
| video editing will reveal it. And it usually does so by
| crashing.
| em-bee wrote:
| i found pitivi quite stable when i used it a few years ago. i
| used it quite a while for various projects. i mostly had AMD
| and before that intel CPUs with onboard graphics and i always
| avoided nvidia though.
| jszymborski wrote:
| Will have to give this a shot. I've been using kdenlive for some
| small things and it's been pretty great but this looks very cool
| whywhywouldyou wrote:
| If the product has to TELL you up front that it has a "beautiful
| and intuitive user interface", it likely doesn't.
|
| And the Tour page has a screenshot of the application titled
| "Stunning Elegance", where it does a great job of mostly looking
| the same as any desktop app developed in the last 10 years --
| full of shades of grey, plain, no menus.
|
| As a cherry on top, it is described as "Easy to learn. Exciting
| to master", which is getting so far out there into marketing land
| that my spidey senses tell me to stay far away.
| em-bee wrote:
| i have used it. it is easy to learn. certainly no worse than
| the alternatives.
|
| i get your criticism. but i see that very often. most projects
| just don't know how to present their apps in a good way. it
| seems like we are trying to describe apps in ways that we think
| non-tech people would expect, but we are failing.
| tyiz wrote:
| It Looks like a Camtasia ripoff imho.
| erremerre wrote:
| Camtasia has a great interface, so not surprised that it is
| trying to copy it.
|
| However just by the look of the screenshot, I can see plenty
| of features in camtasia 6 that are not present in Pitivi.
| hulitu wrote:
| That was also my impresion. The first thought: where is the
| menu. Maybe this little "..." thrown on the (supposed) title
| bar.
|
| No screenshots, gray on gray, no system requirements page, no
| easily to find instalation instructions. No mention of which
| GTk version it needs.
| ReleaseCandidat wrote:
| The part about "clean codebase" doesn't really help raising
| confidence either ;).
| huhtenberg wrote:
| Yep, seeing them use "stunning elegance" to describe their own
| work was very off-putting.
|
| Even if it were justified, it would've still come across as
| very cocky and cringe-y.
| jfaulken wrote:
| The website works really hard to not tell you what platforms it
| runs on.
| thanhannam wrote:
| It's a shame GNOME doesn't invest in it as much as KDE does in
| Kdenlive. Really liked its approach at first, but now still
| nowhere near truly usable.
| visnudeva wrote:
| Have you tried KDEnlive? I believe it is the best open source
| video editor on Linux, it is now combined with AI to auto
| generate subtitles!
| 29athrowaway wrote:
| It is a user interface that is usable and discoverable to a
| reasonable extent. But beautiful? come on.
| mips_r4300i wrote:
| It's all relative to its contemporary FOSS applications, and it
| may well be beautiful compared to some of those :)
| gorlilla wrote:
| Beauty has always been a subject of the eye of the beholder.
| Ie, it's very much subjective.
| brettermeier wrote:
| It just looks like every other app made in the last 5 years
| or so...
| Venn1 wrote:
| I have been editing my podcast and guides with NLEs on Linux for
| the past decade. Kdenlive, OpenShot, Olive, Cinelerra, Blender
| and Pitivi all lack one key feature. Stability. You can lose a
| staggering amount of work between auto saves.
|
| After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I
| gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio.
| The early versions lacked ALSA support.
|
| Editing sessions can last 8 to 10 hours and I can't remember the
| last time it spite-crashed. Granted, this doesn't prevent me from
| mindlessly tapping Ctrl+S every few minutes.
| __mharrison__ wrote:
| Resolve is amazing. I also tracked pitivi and Cinelerra for
| years.
|
| Really hard to beat the free version. However, the studio
| version paid for itself quickly.
| Racing0461 wrote:
| > After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in
| 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card
| for audio
|
| I see you've came to the same conclusion i did years ago. I
| look at it not as paying for software, but buying my time back
| at this point.
|
| Linux "open source"/free professional software seems to lack
| the Je ne sais quoi needed to make it worthwhile. It works, but
| the software is in the "uncanny valley" so to speak compared to
| polished Mac/Windows paid professional software.
| Dalewyn wrote:
| There is an old saying: "Time is money."
|
| When you buy something, you are exchanging your money to
| obtain someone else's time. In this case, time that someone
| else spent to make sure a program _works_.
|
| The F in FOSS stands for free, so nobody is under any
| obligation to spend their time so you don't spend yours.
| hn_acker wrote:
| > The F in FOSS stands for free, so nobody is under any
| obligation to spend their time so you don't spend yours.
|
| Your conclusion generalizes to no-charge software, not to
| all FOSS. The "free" in FOSS stands for free software,
| meaning free as in freedom rather than free as in price.
|
| If a program is free software [1] then a user of the
| program can read the source code, modify it, and distribute
| (including sell) unmodified and modified versions of the
| program/code. A user who lacks the program or the code
| isn't entitled to the freedoms but can get the software
| from someone else who has it.
|
| Developers of free software can charge for it. One way of
| making money from free software is charging for access to
| the developer's server. Another way is charging for more
| expansive user support. (Alternatives to charging for the
| software itself include requesting donations and selling
| physical merchandise.)
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
| Dalewyn wrote:
| I'm fully aware the F in FOSS stands for free-as-in-
| libre. I'm also aware that FOSS developers by and large
| _refuse_ the exchange of any and all money both as buyers
| and sellers for services rendered.
|
| You say developers of free-as-in-libre software can
| charge for them, but in practice any developer that tries
| to sell his free-as-in-libre software will be viciously
| laughed out of the room by everyone else.
|
| The F in FOSS in practice stands both for free-as-in-
| libre and free-as-in-beer. And you don't get to talk
| about the quality of free beer.
| Racing0461 wrote:
| Can you guys lemma know when is the year of the linux
| desktop? I wanna add it to calcurse.
| Qem wrote:
| If Micro$oft keeps enshittifying their OS at current
| rates, I bet a lot of people will get fed up and jump
| ship to Linux after one or two more windows releases.
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification
| Dalewyn wrote:
| Windows 11, for all its faults, enables me to do the
| things I want to do on a computer. Likewise Android, and
| to a lesser degree even iOS and MacOS I admit.
|
| Linux however demands me to _do the computer_ , it
| doesn't enable me to do anything because I'm too busy
| doing computer bullshit. This isn't necessarily
| surprising, since the goal of Linux (more accurately
| FOSS) is to _use FOSS_ and isn 't concerned about _what I
| need /want to do._
|
| So no, most people (or at least myself) will not move
| from Windows to Linux. I use computers to do things, not
| preach the holy scriptures of FOSS.
| Zambyte wrote:
| Which decade was the last one you used GNU/Linux in?
| sbuk wrote:
| It's getting better, and with more people working with
| browser based tools the underlying OS is becoming less
| relevant. That said, the Gnome folks do seem user
| hostile. And I get that most Linux distro users like to
| tweak their config (part of the joy of their experience),
| it does lead to choice paralysis for a lot of folks. Add
| that hardware support can still be hit and miss (I
| concede that it has improved massively), it's still not
| the computing panacea that the more enthusiastic and
| vocal proponents would have you believe. Likewise,
| neither are macOS or Windows panaceas, nor are they as
| repugnantly shit as those same folk would like to tell
| you either.
| CyberDildonics wrote:
| People have thought the same thing with every version of
| windows, a word made up by a blogger last year isn't
| going to change that.
|
| Linux's interface is still archaic compared to windows 7
| unfortunately.
| Qem wrote:
| For me their high point was XP. It's downhill since then,
| in terms of dark patterns and user hostility.
| pastage wrote:
| I am guessing you mean you can not complain about edge
| case quality in Free Software. Because people discuss
| quality all the time.
|
| Getting video crashless seems hard, I had problems back
| in 2006. Have not tried again.
| Dalewyn wrote:
| I don't think it's unreasonable to demand that products
| and tools don't spontaneously combust frequently, so long
| as that demand is based on warranties and other such
| professional/commercial guarantees.
|
| FOSS's primary problem is that the goal is the tool
| itself, rather than what is done with the tools:
| Commercial software exist to let the end user achieve
| something, which in turn generates profit for the
| commercial developers. FOSS exist to let the FOSS
| developers achieve _their_ dreams, end users be damned.
|
| A video editor crashing every hour is a problem for the
| end user, but if the FOSS developer doesn't care then
| that's that.
|
| This is why Photoshop will continue to surpass GIMP, and
| why exceptional FOSS like Blender succeed where other
| FOSS do not.
| Zambyte wrote:
| > The F in FOSS stands for free, so nobody is under any
| obligation to spend their time so you don't spend yours.
|
| This is why I really dislike the term "FOSS". It's both
| redundant and erroneously misleads people to thinking
| things like this. Free Software can absolutely be developed
| under contract, in which case yes, you _are_ entitled to
| the developers time under the terms of the contract.
| belugacat wrote:
| A lot of open source projects suffer from "pet project"
| syndrome. Some maintainers have very strong opinions about
| how/what things should be done regardless of actual user
| demand or feedback, and there's no one with the power to
| rebuff them because the product owners deciding what to
| implement and the engineers doing implementation work are one
| and same. Commit right makes might.
|
| In a (healthy) company, you have PMs and executives who will
| tell the overly opinionated engineers to STFU and actually
| implement things that move the needle and solve problems
| users are facing.
|
| This is also why most open source projects have terrible
| UI/UX and any designer who attempts to help and improve
| things finds themselves ignored, with no means to actually
| carry out any decision, and walk away soon after.
| robertlagrant wrote:
| If maintainers are paid to produce a feature, they should
| produce it regardless. Otherwise they're breaking a
| contract.
| davidhyde wrote:
| > "and there's no one with the power to rebuff them"
|
| Except for those that discover the fork button. /s
|
| In all seriousness I think that what you mean is that
| people rarely have the power to fork a project and drag all
| the users and development expertise over to their version.
| Especially if they are simply users of the system and not
| contributors. Users of commercial software can get
| companies to do stuff for them with their wallets.
| prox wrote:
| It stems from a bias, developers are power/expert users and
| their interface behavior is likely matching, which means
| they are heavily reliant on keyboard shortcuts (Think
| Blender 1.x and Blender 2.x who leaned heavily and even
| exclusively on shortcuts)
|
| This gives them the idea that their software is very
| powerful (and probably is) but this creates a cliff to the
| beginner and intermediate level users.
|
| A lot of examples can be found in "About Face: On
| interaction design" by Alan Cooper.
| oefrha wrote:
| In fact larger open source GUI projects also tend to suffer
| from the opposite: with multiple equally powerful
| maintainers, a good number of contributors, and no one to
| rally them behind a coherent design, you get a messy bag of
| poorly documented features spread all over the place.
| Design by programmer is usually bad enough; design by a
| loosely-connected web of programmers working almost
| independently is even worse. Also, a lot of the
| developers/users are ideologically motivated and heavily
| invested, when you point out how bad the software is for
| the average user, instead of reflecting on it they often
| get defensive.
| HeckFeck wrote:
| > any designer who attempts to help and improve things
| finds themselves ignored, with no means to actually carry
| out any decision, and walk away soon after.
|
| Ah yes, remember how long it took before image thumbnails
| appeared in the GTK file picker? Finally in 2022, but that
| was after countless forks and patches submitted that
| implemented them.
|
| https://jayfax.neocities.org/mediocrity/gnome-has-no-
| thumbna...
| ShadowBanThis01 wrote:
| Well, Resolve suffers from the same attitude in places.
| While a good and usable product, it suffers from many
| design gaffes that go unaddressed year after year, despite
| denying users functions that are expected in any similar
| product.
|
| The render-job UI is pretty shambolic (as is the
| treacherously inaccurate timeline on the same page), for
| example. And BMD refuses to add simple functions like
| "match timeline properties to clip." Instead they have a
| prompt that offers to match only frame rate, in contrast to
| just about every other media-editing app I can think of.
| Fixing that should be easy; and if it isn't, the codebase
| must be hopelessly inept.
|
| The integrations of Fusion and Fairlight are buggy and
| exhibit nonsensical and misleading UI behavior. Resolve has
| a node view... oh wait, now it has two node views, which
| are not integrated with each other or with the editor.
| Fixing that should be priority one, which could create a
| truly excellent hybrid product that some of us have asking
| for for years.
|
| And now they've ported the thing to the iPad. Really? I
| realize that from the outside we don't know how engineering
| people are allocated, but nonetheless it seems absurd to
| spend resources on that while the desktop product suffers
| from serious defects that have languished for a long time.
| poulpy123 wrote:
| the "je ne sais quoi" is called money
| unixhero wrote:
| Can confirm. Used Kdenkive and Pitiwi, and they crashed on me.
| I lost a lot of work.
| dharmab wrote:
| The free version of Resolve is so good. I looked for a reason
| to pay them- nope, free version did literally everything a non-
| professional would need. And they even have free downloadable
| lessons on how to edit - not just use their editor, but edit in
| general- on the website.
| Aerroon wrote:
| Last time I looked at it the free version didn't use your GPU
| for playback during editing. Has it changed since then?
| dharmab wrote:
| It depends on the host OS and codec. On Windows if your OEM
| didn't include the H.265 license with your default
| installation you have to buy it for $1 from the Windows
| store (this is a Windows thing, not a Davinci thing). On
| Linux I think you have to pay for the Pro version which
| includes the license.
|
| I think if you're working with DNxHD files you don't have
| to worry about this.
| Nihilartikel wrote:
| I did some semi-serious work in Linux on the free version
| earlier this year. Performance was pretty good, and I
| believe that it did use the GPU.
|
| The only big annoyance for me was the lack of a h265 codec.
| I had some FFMPEG shell scripts for the final exports, but
| it was a pain and I eventually paid for the full version,
| which I am very happy with considering it is a lifetime
| license. Some premium features like speech transcription,
| where you can select a video segment by simply selecting
| dialog from a text box, were a big time saver too.
|
| With my last editing experience being Adobe Premiere in the
| early 2000s, Resolve was simply amazing.
| dharmab wrote:
| Similarly, I use Shutter Encoder as an early stage of my
| pipeline to convert to less painful codecs.
| animex wrote:
| ...but it asks for all your identifying information so their
| sales team can email, phone, snail-mail solicit you to
| upgrade...until their shit gets hacked and then they are
| paying out a multi-million dollar privacy settlement/fine :/
| Almondsetat wrote:
| You do know that you can just write gibberish in the
| download form, right?
| sofixa wrote:
| You never know, some vendors send you the download link /
| license file via email, so at least that part needs to be
| legit.
| culi wrote:
| you can use a disposable email https://temp-mail.org/
|
| Or just maintain a personal throwaway email that's not
| tied to your real life identity
| vik0 wrote:
| Just use a temporary email from some temporary email
| generator like https://temp-mail.org/ (use an AdBlock,
| I'm sure the site is littered with ads, but I wouldn't
| know cause I use uBlock)
| sofixa wrote:
| Those are often blacklisted though, same as any mails on
| free TLDs.
| franky47 wrote:
| That's what I thought too, but it's just a datawall, the
| link is available right after submitting.
|
| So go ahead and John Doe it.
| Almondsetat wrote:
| Just try once to check if they send the email?
| diggan wrote:
| There is a link in the bottom right or left of that form
| that allows you to download without registering.
| latexr wrote:
| And for macOS it's on the App Store, so no forms.
| vindarel wrote:
| I spent dozens of hours in kdenlive since last year with 1
| well-identified crash. The situation might have drastically
| improved since 2017?
| ReleaseCandidat wrote:
| Yes, but users that you have lost because of crashes don't
| come back if they've found an usable alternative.
| prox wrote:
| Same here, kdenlive has been rock solid for me. It was crash
| prone and even sluggish a few major versions ago.
| raudette wrote:
| I have used kdenlive for a dozen videos over the last 5 years
| - my use case, taking 15 minutes of footage down to 2-3
| minutes, syncing video with voice over, building product
| demos, tutorials. It has been solid, on Windows and Linux.
|
| When my youngest was 10, she worked with OpenShot and
| Kdenlive, and settled on Kdenlive on Windows - probably
| edited 20 videos of hours of Roblox footage down to 2-3
| minute videos, syncing characters activity with music, voice
| over, etc... It was pretty cool - it worked well for her.
| ReleaseCandidat wrote:
| Yes, the same for me, just that I've used the Pro(?) version of
| Lightworks before BM released Resolve.
|
| But the least stable, unusable piece of (compositing/video)
| shi^H^H^Hsoftware had been Discreet's (now Autodesk)
| Combustion, which I got for free with a Quadro graphics card.
|
| If the first sentence in the press release is
|
| > Discreet's Combustion is a robust 3D compositing package
|
| you now what to expect ;)
|
| https://www.cgw.com/Publications/CGW/2001/Volume-24-Issue-1-...
| ShadowBanThis01 wrote:
| Seriously, you're still complaining about a 22-year-old piece
| of software?
|
| Not victim-blaming here, but it's unfortunate that you didn't
| experience the other end of the spectrum, the highest-end
| compositor there was: Shake.
| stuaxo wrote:
| I understand why (the complexity in the codecs) but it's
| certainly frustrating.
|
| Anyone building one of these now needs to build it from the
| start with the knowledge these lower level parts may crash, or
| maybe Gstreamer itself could provide some crash protection.
| thefz wrote:
| Resolve is so good I paid for the full version even if all I do
| is edit GoPro videos.
| LanternLight83 wrote:
| Can anyone speak to linux support, free or otherwise?
| flaburgan wrote:
| Did you try Shotcut? https://www.shotcut.org/
|
| I had the same bad experience than you with Pitivi, Openshot
| and KDEnlive. Then I discovered shotcut and I was finally able
| to work. And it's FLOSS.
| chupapimunyenyo wrote:
| I tested many open source video editors and shotcut was the
| best compared to the rest. It has a lot of (basic) features
| that are missing in other editors
| culi wrote:
| How does it compare to Kdenlive? I'm not an editor and also
| looking into floss video editors now. From what I see the
| most popular are: 1. Kdenlive 2.
| Avidemux 3. Openshot 4. Shotcut 5. Olive
| Video Editor 6. PiTiVi 7. Cinelerra
| chupapimunyenyo wrote:
| To be honest it looks like I completely missed Kdenlive.
| It looks very advanced compared to openshot, from what
| their website shows. May be worth a try for both of us
| suby wrote:
| I don't edit videos too often, but Shotcut is what I use.
| I'll be trying out Pitivi because I'm not quite happy with
| it, it crashes quite a bit.
| ho_schi wrote:
| Regarding Pitivi I have to confirm that. I tried it multiple
| times on a novice-level (just cutting and accelerating).
| Unreliable and crashing, both on AMD and Intel. The quality of
| encoded result is also bad, even with H265 and highest quality.
| And the preview window is always "popping" out and doesn't went
| back into the main UI. Is it me or are others more successful
| with it?
|
| I wonder if and how much Gstreamer is responsible for
| situation.
|
| I'm honestly more apt to ffmpeg. MPV and Celluloid work always
| reliable. Firefox probably had also a reason to prefer ffmpeg.
| I will try another editor in future, maybe it is not Gstreamer
| but Pitiv.
| 0x0203 wrote:
| Does Resolve work on non-nvidia GPUs? Last few times I've tried
| to run Resolve, it claimed to not support my AMD Radeon video
| cards.
| inslee1 wrote:
| I just used Pitivi recently to cut something and quite liked its
| straightforwardness.
|
| The only thing I don't like is the lack of preview monitor so I
| can work with raw clips before bringing them into the timeline
| but for quick cuts, it's a great tool.
| mmwelt wrote:
| Does anyone know how it compares with Shotcut[1]? It's free, open
| source, and works on Windows, Mac and Linux. I've been a happy
| user for a while.
|
| [1] https://shotcut.org/
| hulitu wrote:
| > Built atop the giant shoulders of the industry-standard
| GStreamer multimedia framework,
|
| "Never" heard about it. Now seriuosly, if they would have said
| ffmpeg, ok. But gstreamer ?
| antics9 wrote:
| I do not find Pitivi stable, or beautiful.
|
| Blender is easy to use if you want to start with basic editing.
|
| https://youtu.be/U4WlgU1I2Jg?si=etEsTOeCnAeKV-wL
| aleb wrote:
| Hello everybody, a Pitivi maintainer here. Some random thoughts,
| while I might have the attention..
|
| I think when one considers a foss video editor, they might look
| into advanced features they need, if any, on how the app
| looks/integrates with everything, and not the last on how
| sustaining is the development. The needed features and look are
| personal and are what they are, so let me comment on
| sustainability of the "competing" video editors:
|
| - Shotcut's dev said a few years ago in an interview that he gets
| enough money out of the ads on the website. - Openshot's
| Jonathan, last I checked in the corona time on the website was
| also getting a few thousand USD per month, from donations. -
| KdenLive last I checked a few years ago had a nice active
| team(!). I'm sure if you manage to submit a proper crash report
| they'll fix it. :) - Olive's dev is very ambitious, good luck to
| him! - Blender's integrated video editor looks solid! - Pitivi's
| team shifted focus on GStreamer or away, but we always gathered
| ourselves to mentor each year 2-3 GSoC students. Most of the
| development for a good number of years has actually been done by
| GSoC students. A significant effort went into making their job
| easier, code reviews(!), merging, infra, maintenance. Two years
| in a row, groups of students from UNL Nebraska worked on awesome
| small features and enhancements. Behind the scenes, Igalia and
| other GStreamer contributors are doing heavy work on GStreamer.
| Thanks to all, you're awesome! :)
|
| Now Pitivi.. like some of the others, has it's place. It's the
| only video editor based on GStreamer. GStreamer is here to stay,
| and so is Pitivi--at least until another video editor based on
| GStreamer and written in Rust (read "stable") pops up, you never
| know.
|
| Pitivi is the only video editor built on GTK, we get quite some
| help from the community with the GitLab issue tracker and the
| website infra. We're not GNOME but yes we are close. We spent two
| individual GSoC internships to port Pitivi to GTK 4, but we're
| not there yet. Blame it on us. It'll get there at some point, but
| I don't think we'll do a third internship, so I think we'll most
| likely skip GSoC next year altogether.
|
| "Beautiful" is not measurable, so if we say that "it's
| beautiful", it's not an absolute truth. You don't like it -> see
| "competition" above. Let me mention we did stay away from context
| menus. :)
|
| "Marketing" will be needed when we want to do a(nother)
| fundraiser, but we're not there yet. The only marketing we might
| want to do is to developers and people who might be interested in
| joining and investing in the community. Maybe you have tips about
| that! Also regarding marketing, we don't have yet packages for
| Windows and Mac. I think all the others do.
|
| "Stability" is lacking in video editors because none are written
| in Rust.
|
| Cheers and have fun editing with your favorite video editor! I'll
| come back to check the replies next Monday.
| ho_schi wrote:
| > "Stability" is lacking in video editors because none are
| written in Rust.
|
| I've doubts about this statement.
|
| PS: Pitivi is implemented in Python.
| CharlesW wrote:
| > _I've doubts about this statement._
|
| I assume this is very dry sarcasm, because _< points to
| entire history of digital video editing and NLEs>_.
| timonoko wrote:
| It has keyframe curves just like Cinelerra!
|
| Most other editors that these n00bs revel about are just ffmpeg
| with sugar-coated interface. No factual added functionality.
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