[HN Gopher] IA Writer in Paper
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       IA Writer in Paper
        
       Author : scop
       Score  : 121 points
       Date   : 2023-12-08 16:49 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | blueflow wrote:
       | I thought the pictures were blank white. Which kind of person
       | photographs a pure white product on a pure white background?
        
         | theyinwhy wrote:
         | Photographer is the word you are looking for.
        
       | shrubble wrote:
       | Seems a bit "twee" or whatever the word is, is it embossed into
       | the paper or just very faint lines? And why show only Japanese
       | handwriting when you are putatively, willing to sell it to people
       | who will write in English?
        
         | cianmm wrote:
         | They've got a Tokyo office so they're probably interested
         | selling to that market too
        
         | bobbylarrybobby wrote:
         | My experience is that no demographic cares about paper quality
         | like the Japanese.
        
           | DiabloD3 wrote:
           | Given how many extremely high quality, end game, niche items
           | I've ended up buying from Japanese companies, I'd agree.
        
         | tiltowait wrote:
         | From my (very brief) foray looking into the "high-end
         | penmanship" hobby, Japanese notebooks seem to be some of the
         | most highly regarded, so it makes sense to me.
        
       | adaboese wrote:
       | Misread as "AI writer". I thought it is another competitor
        
         | Obscurity4340 wrote:
         | Does everyone experience episodic, like, dyslexia when they try
         | to read thru and think too fast? I always had this when test-
         | taking as a student.
        
           | GaggiX wrote:
           | Yeah it happens to everyone, I read "AI winter" in the title
        
       | ordinaryradical wrote:
       | I love iA Writer and will shill it till I die. One of the few
       | pieces of software to genuinely change my professional and
       | artistic life.
       | 
       | I screamed for a second when I thought this was them releasing an
       | eink device. Something like Remarkable, that would be a day one
       | buy for me.
       | 
       | I tried to get this hacked together with one of those Chinese
       | Android eink tablets, but the save/sync was unreliable (only time
       | I've ever lost writing) and the overall experience was poor
       | compared to my iPad. But my soul pants for iA Writer on eink.
        
         | seeknotfind wrote:
         | I love it too :) so many good memories writing, staring at that
         | perfect blue cursor blinking. The markdown renderer is
         | beautiful too because it still renders a lot of the special
         | characters. Header hashtags off to the left.
        
         | Caddickbrown wrote:
         | Have you tried something like Obsidian? How would you compare
         | it?
        
           | samsolomon wrote:
           | Not who you asked, but I like and own both, but have found
           | myself moving to Obsidian more and more. I'm not entirely
           | sure why. IA writer now has document linking and I love the
           | typography. I like the editor better.
           | 
           | I think there is something that makes file organization
           | easier in Obsidian. I have a plugin that creates a new note
           | for each given week. And it feels easier to navigate a bunch
           | of files without the descriptions/first few lines of the doc.
           | 
           | EDIT: And this thread has encouraged me to second guess
           | myself about some of these things and there's a setting to
           | remove descriptions in the library. Maybe I'll try picking IA
           | Writer back up!
        
           | kstrauser wrote:
           | For me, they're so different that it's hard to compare them.
           | Obsidian is a great tool for linking, searching, querying,
           | and visualizing sets of thoughts. It happens to have a text
           | editor, but that's not the brilliant part about it.
           | Obsidian's editor feels _to me_ like a method to get data
           | into the note database. Also, Electron.
           | 
           | iA Writer is a one the best text editors I've ever touched.
           | It happens to have tools for linking and searching notes, but
           | that's not the brilliant part. Writer's data management feels
           | _to me_ like methods to navigate around to the note I want to
           | writing. Also, it 's a "Mac-assed Mac app", looks and feels
           | exactly like it belongs on my desktop, plays nicely with all
           | other Mac apps, and couldn't be faster or more responsive if
           | it were hand-coded in assembler.
           | 
           | If I want to store and search notes, I'd _probably_ pick
           | Obsidian (although I 'm currently using Bear Notes for that).
           | If I want the best writing environment I know of, I'll reach
           | for iA Writer every time.
        
           | bayindirh wrote:
           | I use both, and won't exchange one for the other. Obsidian is
           | a knowledge management tool. iA is on the other hand is a
           | writing tool. I compose my blog posts there, esp. its writing
           | aids are very helpful.
           | 
           | While obsidian is getting more and more of my knowledge, all
           | focused post authoring is happening and will happen in iA.
        
         | llm_nerd wrote:
         | One thing I battled with in iA Writer is its objection to
         | adverbs and adjectives. Eventually I came to appreciate its
         | position, realizing that they add little value to text.
        
           | Filligree wrote:
           | That sounds like it's not very useful for fiction, then?
        
             | llm_nerd wrote:
             | _Obviously_ you can turn that syntax highlighting off. Add
             | that the majority of writing is non-fiction (I 'd wager
             | 99.99%+ of written words). Or least purported to be non-
             | fiction.
        
             | turuttituff2000 wrote:
             | Mark Twain: "When you catch an adjective, kill it." Stephen
             | King: "The road to hell is paved with adverbs".
             | 
             | But what do they know about fiction? :)
        
             | themadturk wrote:
             | The killing of excess adjectives and adverbs is _very_ good
             | for fiction.
        
           | kstrauser wrote:
           | Ah, I hate that you were downvoted for that. For those who
           | haven't used it, yes, iA Writer tries to steer you away from
           | adverbs: https://ia.net/writer/support/basics/writing-
           | tips/parts-of-s...
           | 
           | You can turn that off. I did at first; all the colors in the
           | English prose I was writing distracted me. I came to
           | appreciate that, though. I realized that I used adverbs and
           | adjectives much more than I intended to, and now they stand
           | out.
           | 
           | Along those lines, I've also realized that I overuse "great",
           | "love", "hope", "literally", and "but". I added those to iA
           | Writer's custom patterns, and now it pesters me when I use
           | those words. Sometimes I mean to, but I literally love to put
           | them in every sentence and hope it turns out great. iA Writer
           | says, hey, you might want to reconsider your word choices.
        
         | sergiomattei wrote:
         | That software made me fall in love with writing.
         | 
         | I'm a lifelong customer and it's been one of the best purchases
         | I've ever made.
        
           | kstrauser wrote:
           | > one of the best purchases
           | 
           | Key word there: purchases. Their apps are pricey, but then
           | you own them. I'll take that over subscriptions every time.
        
         | sambeau wrote:
         | The only thing stopping me from using iA Writer for everything
         | is being able to manually sort a folder. I realise that, being
         | it's just a folder underneath, this would require storage
         | somewhere. But it could be as simple as:
         | _index.md:            - File 1.md       - File 2.md       -
         | File 3.md
        
           | brailsafe wrote:
           | Since it's a mac app, it could store the metadata in either a
           | file, like you mentioned, or in a userdefaults preference
           | dictionary (plist) that would be stored in the app's library
           | support folder, or they could use core data and just keep a
           | unique identifier for the path to the folder
        
         | Swizec wrote:
         | Been using iA Writer for 10+ years. It's made me a better
         | writer. The way it started highlighting cliches and fluffy
         | turns of phrase a few years ago has been chef's kiss.
         | 
         | I wish it supported .adoc because sometimes markdown just isn't
         | enough.
        
         | RBerenguel wrote:
         | Shilling (or not, it's open source, who cares). I made this:
         | https://github.com/rberenguel/PiWrite
         | 
         | It is not iA Writer in eink, but I got distant inspiration (I
         | used it a lot back when it was released... a long time ago) and
         | could be closer with effort.
        
         | fmeyer wrote:
         | I use Drafts,
         | 
         | It can take you to places that you never thought would be
         | possible with AI writer.
        
           | kstrauser wrote:
           | I use both. iA Writer is my definite writing app. It's where
           | I write any bit of non-trivial Markdown, to the point I wince
           | when I have to use an old-fashioned word processor. Drafts is
           | exceptional for dispatching little bits of text to other apps
           | through its ridiculously powerful integration and scripting.
           | For instance, if I think of something I want to post to
           | Mastodon, I press opt-F2 to open Drafts, write it, then press
           | F2 to send it to my server.
           | 
           | Writer is a much better text editor IMO. (Drafts is really
           | good, but Writer is stupendous.) Drafts is much better for
           | interacting with or automating other apps. They're both in my
           | dock.
        
         | disqard wrote:
         | Thank you for that enthusiastic appraisal!
         | 
         | You made me wonder "is it really _that_ good? ", so I just
         | tried it out and loved it, and I'm grateful to you for bringing
         | it to my attention.
         | 
         | Have a wonderful day, Internet stranger :)
        
         | glenngillen wrote:
         | Did you look at the SuperNote? I've one, and love it. It seems
         | more hackable than the Remarkable from what I can tell, though
         | the base functionality has been enough for me so I've not
         | customised it.
        
       | mrtesthah wrote:
       | Is it acid-free / archival grade paper?
        
       | trinsic2 wrote:
       | Im not quite sure what this is. Its it just a piece of software,
       | an e-ink reader or paper? They needed to set up what this is
       | before talking about its features
        
         | modernerd wrote:
         | It's a physical paper notebook.
        
         | 4ndrewl wrote:
         | It's some paper bound together with some glue. For almost
         | everyone it has feature parity with something you can buy for a
         | couple of $/EUR/PS in many shops. You'll write the same stuff
         | in both.
        
       | seeknotfind wrote:
       | I hope everyone is signing up for the newsletter so they release
       | this. I think I would pay $50 as a one-time gimmick, because I
       | genuinely love iA Writer. Though, if I was to use this as a
       | normal product and buy multiple times, I think I'd be looking for
       | a $20 price range.
        
       | vishkk wrote:
       | One of my favorite products -- been using it for note-taking,
       | journaling, and miscellaneous stuff for almost a decade now!
        
         | CharlesW wrote:
         | This is a new, unreleased product, iAnotobutsuku (iA Notebook).
        
       | rpastuszak wrote:
       | I think the Enso[*] version of this would be a single piece of
       | paper and a pen filled with ink which disappears after 10-15
       | seconds.
       | 
       | Does anyone know if such ink exists or if there's a way of making
       | one cheaply/safely? I want to build prototype and record a video.
       | 
       | (* Enso is a stream of consciousness writing app I built some
       | time ago, hence my very clever idea: https://enso.sonnet.io)
        
         | dbtc wrote:
         | I don't know about on paper, but I have seen (videos of) people
         | writing (chinese) calligraphy on pavements with water and big
         | brushes, which fades in a few minutes as it dries.
        
         | syncbehind wrote:
         | Get yourself a buddha board :) you can basically do something
         | like that.
        
       | CharlesW wrote:
       | For anyone looking for a "dark mode" solution:
       | https://www.jetpens.com/Etranger-di-Costarica-Blanc-de-Noirs...
        
         | syncbehind wrote:
         | What ink do you use with this? I find a lot of "bright" inks to
         | not be opaque enough.
        
           | starkparker wrote:
           | Metallic silver or white gel ink works well. I like silver
           | for being a little more reflective in low light. Or white-out
           | pens, unironically.
        
       | loughnane wrote:
       | I didn't know anything about ia writer before this post. I love
       | it's specs but I feel I'm halfway to setting up something similar
       | --and more flexible--in vim.
       | 
       | I hadn't spent more than 5m in vim a year ago. Now it's like a
       | superpower for writing. I've got ProseMode that makes it look
       | pretty, custom linting rules through Vale (eg it flags if I try
       | to say 'amazing'), and lots of other stuff. At this point I even
       | use it for all my work writing.
       | 
       | In any case, it makes me feel good that's there's software out
       | there letting people reach the same heights.
        
       | huhtenberg wrote:
       | Looks nice, but wouldn't hurt to know the price. At least a
       | ballpark.
       | 
       | Given all the pompousness and dripping exclusivity I'm guessing a
       | bit under $100 ... ?
        
         | selykg wrote:
         | A $100 notepad? Gimme a break.
         | 
         | Given Baron Fig and Leuchtturm charge a premium (and are
         | $20-30), I'd guess one of these would be under $30 if they had
         | enough interest to produce large enough quantities. The price
         | really depends on quantity.
        
       | syncbehind wrote:
       | This looks like good paper. I hope it doesn't bleed or feather
       | like most with fountainpen ink.
       | 
       | I like the idea.
        
       | threatofrain wrote:
       | Ya'll may also want to check out Midori1, a favorite of the
       | journaling community. There's also Northbooks2, a small American
       | company. And Nanami Paper3 if you want to try out quality paper
       | in the ultra-thin direction.
       | 
       | [1]: https://md.midori-japan.co.jp/en/products/mdnote-cotton/
       | 
       | [2]: https://gonorthbooks.com/
       | 
       | [3]: https://www.nanamipaper.com/products/cafe-note-b6-slim-
       | grid....
        
         | pryelluw wrote:
         | I bought one of the midori notebooks. It's so nice that I feel
         | bad about using it.
        
           | maxverse wrote:
           | I've had that happen. I recently bought a few Muji notebooks
           | for $2/piece[1]. They're thin, beautiful, and relatively
           | cheap. I want to use them to doodle with less constraint or
           | self-judgement, but still with a good experience. It's a
           | weird balance between writing in a way that feels good, but
           | also not judging yourself too much because you're using
           | beautiful tools and materials.
           | 
           | [1] https://www.muji.us/products/bind-grid-
           | notebook-9s62?_pos=2&...
        
       | kyle_o wrote:
       | As soon as I've paid for one version of iA, I seem to always need
       | another. Keep it up!
        
       | dshakti wrote:
       | User since day 1 of the launch! Writer and Presenter are my 2
       | most used apps that I never close. They are both, philosophically
       | speaking, made to make you think and challenge you to articulate
       | better with every single use.
       | 
       | The release notes of Writer 7 literally brought a smile on my
       | face. So did the notebook. Simple oceans like these is truly what
       | human craft is all about.
        
       | dabei wrote:
       | Took me a couple of minutes to realize this is not an AI launch.
        
       | jopsen wrote:
       | Been loving the android app until recently, it's started to fail
       | auto save :(
        
       | marcomourao wrote:
       | If they follow their app pricing model, it will cost EUR13,55
       | more in my country for absolutely no reason.
        
       | vcg3rd wrote:
       | So they took 10 years to reinvent Whitelines?
        
       | minikomi wrote:
       | In case anyone was wondering, the text is from Night on the
       | Galactic Railroad by Kenji Miyazawa.
        
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