[HN Gopher] Double Standards
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Double Standards
Author : _Microft
Score : 84 points
Date : 2023-12-08 14:01 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| phkahler wrote:
| This is strange. The Pi5 seems to want a cooling fan pretty
| badly, and any HAT is going to completely block the airflow if it
| even leaves room for the fan. Are people using HATs finding
| problems with cooling?
| nmaludy wrote:
| I asked about that and never got a response. My thought would
| be some sort of side/end fed cooling fan instead of one that
| exhausts out the top.
| halJordan wrote:
| I thought this was going to be about the double standard of how
| they treat business vs non-business end users, but they are
| releasing two new standards
|
| A new hat and the new hat specification it follows
| wolpoli wrote:
| > I thought this was going to be about the double standard of
| how they treat business vs non-business end users
|
| While Raspberry Pi were marketed to hobbyists, other parts of
| the organization are geared towards businesses. After all, what
| hobbyists would look for 7-year production guarantee?
| johnny22 wrote:
| They are geared towards education, in which they do want to
| not have to switch out products so quickly.
| ano-ther wrote:
| Which is also good for hobbyists.
|
| I like a stable toolbox for my hobby projects. They usually
| take far longer than expected and it's quite annoying to find
| out that the only way to replace a broken part is with a new
| version that requires a new tool chain and produces lots of
| mysterious error messages.
| lawlessone wrote:
| Can I stick a 4090 to it?
|
| I know it's a terrible idea, and I can't afford the mortgage, but
| can I?
| rahkiin wrote:
| No: The RPi5 has 4x lanes, the 4090 requires 16x lanes of
| PCI3.0
| ssl-3 wrote:
| Does it require 16x?
|
| Previous-gen video cards were often connected to risers that
| only provided 1x, and lots of "normal" systems (with a bit of
| expansion) don't have enough PCI Express lanes to give 16
| lanes to any one device.
| Sohcahtoa82 wrote:
| > the 4090 requires 16x lanes of PCI3.0
|
| Does it require 16x PCI-E 3 _just to run_? Or is that just a
| minimum to get the most performance?
| 0x457 wrote:
| No, it doesn't require it. It's desired to fully utilized it,
| but not required.
|
| PCIe is fully backward and forward compatible between
| versions. Many eGPUs run at PCIE 3.0 4x.
| mikepavone wrote:
| The current answer is maybe:
| https://github.com/geerlingguy/raspberry-pi-pcie-devices/iss...
|
| The PCIe implementation on the 5 is supposedly more
| complete/less broken than on the CM4, but so far the only
| person crazy/inspired enough to test hasn't gotten back to this
| card with their Pi 5 setup.
| baz00 wrote:
| I get the feeling that by the time I've paid for that and the hat
| I could probably have bagged a Lenovo mini PC...
| ssl-3 wrote:
| You can get a new Lenovo mini PC with these features for the
| price of a new Raspberry Pi 5 and its accoutrements?
| baz00 wrote:
| ebay...
| maicro wrote:
| As others have said, ebay. One thing that helps is looking
| for "thin clients" - I know the Dell Wyse (not Lenovo
| obviously, but an example) can be "unlocked" to install
| normal Linux fairly easily. First page of results has options
| for under $30USD with free shipping (probably US only, but
| still).
| wharvle wrote:
| You can get entire PCs way more powerful than any generation of
| Pi, with more connectivity/port options, for roughly the price
| of a pi + case, on eBay. It's long been true that if you don't
| need or want some of the particular characteristics or features
| of a Pi (compact size + GPIO, say), they're not a great
| purchase.
| jimis wrote:
| It's not the same buying a new product from official
| supplier, to buying something old and/or used from an unknown
| entity on eBay.
| nine_k wrote:
| Certified refurbishers usually sell fine machines, and give
| a year of guarantee, or so.
| nine_k wrote:
| This is true is all you need is a cheap compute box. RPis
| give GPIO pins, compact size, and relatively low power usage.
| If you want something comparable, maybe an old mobile phone +
| a USB GPIO breakout board would fit the bill better.
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