[HN Gopher] Three Decades of HTML
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Three Decades of HTML
Author : tosh
Score : 71 points
Date : 2023-12-07 17:34 UTC (5 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (meyerweb.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (meyerweb.com)
| OhMeadhbh wrote:
| Oh. I actually remember that marked up version of the MST3K ep
| guide! Around the same time I worked at Convex and marked up a
| few of our text-based online documents. We didn't have a web
| server at the time, but you could use gopher or FTP to download a
| compressed tar file that included "experimental" HTML you could
| open as a file in Mosaic.
| andrewmcwatters wrote:
| Haven't read anything from Meyer in quite a while now.
|
| For younger and newer devs, back in '07-'08, Eric Meyer created
| one of the first popular CSS resets which helped normalize
| differences between browser vendors.
|
| I run into a lot of front-end devs now who aren't aware of this
| history. Probably worth mentioning at this point now.
| antod wrote:
| I was thinking more of him authoring those original O'Reilly
| CSS books (with the trout or salmon covers) that really dug
| into understanding box models etc and distinguished it's
| readers from those who just aimlessly prodded around.
| andrewmcwatters wrote:
| Yep. I remember him being called a CSS guru at the time,
| which I'm sure is what allowed his reset to take off.
| tambourine_man wrote:
| "Which was the style at the time" is a reference to The Simpsons,
| I think. At least I read it with grandpa Simpsons's voice in my
| head.
|
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yujF8AumiQo
| knose wrote:
| oh wow, this site is _really_ slow on latest firefox. >99% CPU
| time on graphics according to the profiler, haha.
| abbe98 wrote:
| I wonder what's going on, tried turning of JavaScript but I
| could still barely scroll.
| irrational wrote:
| Wow. I'm still about 4 years away from the 30th anniversary of
| the first web page I ever created. Unfortunately I don't have it
| anymore.
| fnord77 wrote:
| I know what mine was: <html><body>
| <h1>hello</h1> </html> <!-- missing /body -->
| richbell wrote:
| I don't believe you. Where's <marque> or <blink>?
| latchkey wrote:
| animations with the <title> tag
| WorldMaker wrote:
| The oldest webpage I have found decent archives of was from
| 1998-1999. It was "Works Best in IE" and all sorts of TABLE
| layout and weird magpie bits of JS madness. I based my current
| blog look in part based on what that 1998/1999 version of me
| thought would look cool for a webpage and couldn't quite pull
| off with TABLEs and GIFs.
|
| I know I was building them years before that, but I'm not sure
| if I could tell you exactly which year I started. I do remember
| that a lot of my first web pages were hosted on the 1MB (then
| 2MB) AOL "MyPlace" (which was _before_ AOL Hometown and
| _before_ the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive). I
| remember at one point using up all of the AOL account 's
| profiles just to have web pages on them. It was supposed to be
| a family account, but I was the one most (ab)using it.
|
| My recollection of it, and that recollection is probably all
| sorts of wrong at this point, that 1MB version of "MyPlace" was
| one of the launch features around the time of Eternal September
| (in 1993 or 1994), so it is very possible I was "hosting" web
| pages as early as 1993. As I recall it, I was building web
| pages even before that AOL hosting, and mostly "hosting" them
| just on floppy disks I'd take to school. (Which is the reason I
| can't rely on my recollection _too well_ here: I was a very
| precocious 9 in 1993.)
| bcrosby95 wrote:
| I made my first webpage back in 1996 for a project in my high
| school CS class. I don't think I have it either, but from what
| I recall of it, it was pretty corny.
| tudorw wrote:
| My first endeavours live on at least partially thanks to the
| wayback machine;
| https://web.archive.org/web/19961230152148/http://www.tangen...
|
| We had a 3d mol viewer and RealAudio :)
| mediumsmart wrote:
| Loads fast here on Orion RC and gets full marks on performance
| with the google.
|
| I still use his https://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/color-
| blend/#:::hex on localhost.
| qingcharles wrote:
| Wow, that made me notice I'm 30 years this month too!
|
| I barely touched the Web for the first few months I was online.
| IRC, FTP and Usenet only. Even email didn't hold much value at
| the time.
|
| Most of the Web in 1993 was just tutorials on how to write your
| first web page.
|
| My earliest surviving HTML pages are from about 1997. If I could
| get hold of the guy, Dustin, who has been maintaining this web
| site continuously since before 1996, then I could probably find
| the earliest fragments of my web coding from when I was using
| that MUD to DM my gf so I could help with the web design/Java
| applet course she was enrolled in:
|
| http://resworld.eolith.net/res.html
|
| (that's also my first registered domain there, eschaton.net .. I
| was bummed because NSF had just finally started charging for
| domains so I had to drop dozens of awesome one-word dotcoms)
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