[HN Gopher] Chasquid - SMTP server focused on simplicity
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Chasquid - SMTP server focused on simplicity
Author : mvolfik
Score : 63 points
Date : 2023-12-03 18:55 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| denysvitali wrote:
| I'm a huge fan of Chasquid. The HAProxy protocol support makes it
| easy to integrate in Kubernetes.
|
| I uses to use this solution until a few months ago when I decided
| that self hosting my mail server was too much work. To be fair,
| it's not Chasquid's fault as operations there are basically 0,
| but more of a spam / email reputation thing.
| 77pt77 wrote:
| Self-hosting email has been essentially dead for almost a
| decade.
|
| Even if you don't ever SPAM and send like one email a day on
| average, you won't be able to get them delivered to the
| recipient's inbox.
|
| You can use SPF, DKIM, DMARC all you want, google won't care.
| geek_at wrote:
| can't confirm. I'm hosting a online registration software for
| parent-teacher conferences and hosting all my mailservers on
| my business internet line.
|
| If you have DKIM,DMARC,SPF and the reverse DNS of the
| mailserver is set to the correct domain you have no problem.
| Well.. except for GMX and yahoo which frequently block me for
| a few hours when multiple parents register at the same time
| rfmoz wrote:
| The security solutions on the mail system make a line that
| you need to cross, but it doesn't guarantee a success.
|
| It's a hard way to guess how good is the implementation on
| the receiver, like GMX, Libero or other big country
| providers with "historical" service that don't care about
| them too much.
| 77pt77 wrote:
| GMX is banned in many places for example.
| slowbdotro wrote:
| I agree. Self hosted my email for over a decade and as long
| as you do the recommended SPF, DKIM and DMARC you have
| basically no problems.
|
| Occasionally I turn up in spam when I email someone I
| haven't before, but that's usually due to the .ro in my
| domain and the forced text mode rather than html.
|
| I've found problems only start occuring when you send
| transactional email. User signups, notifications, etc.
| Anything really automated.
|
| I think people like to joke on self hosting email because
| there are a lot of moving parts and it was hard to diagnose
| why something went wrong. Until the last decade and early
| 2010s there were no all in one self hosted solutions that
| made it easy & available for most to do it.
| 77pt77 wrote:
| > Occasionally I turn up in spam when I email someone I
| haven't before
|
| Just proved my point.
| 8organicbits wrote:
| Last week I saw the same behavior sending email from my
| work's Google Workspace account to my personal Gmail
| account. The email stays within Google, I'm logged into
| both accounts on the same computer, does Google think I
| am I spamming myself...?
| jamespo wrote:
| Wait until you get on MS blocklist with no recourse
| 77pt77 wrote:
| Or on any other RBL because someone else in the same
| netblock (maybe) did something suspicious.
| rfmoz wrote:
| Looking for help with Postfix configuration usually put you
| in forums threads with almost +10 years.
| sillystuff wrote:
| postfix-users is active, and primary devs _very_ frequently
| answer user questions (you should make an effort to go
| through the documentation first).
|
| https://www.postfix.org/lists.html
|
| To get an idea without subscribing:
|
| https://www.mail-archive.com/postfix-users@postfix.org/
| kiwijamo wrote:
| And thankfully the solution is almost always the same even
| after many years.
| intsunny wrote:
| I'm amazed at how email server software is innovating and
| evolving like never before. We have new implementations of SMTP,
| IMAP, etc. We even have new protocols like JMAP thanks to the
| Fastmail guys.
|
| But it also feels like fewer and fewer people are running their
| own mail servers. Everyone seems to just outsource it to Google
| or Microsoft. I'm also surprised at how many engineers barely
| understand how email works. (IE: I have to show them what email
| headers are and the useful info that can ne found there.)
| keyle wrote:
| That's because email delivery is such a weird dance. It's
| getting harder every year to have your mail delivered without
| being part of those few services since the protocol is abused
| so much.
| Nextgrid wrote:
| To be fair, you can relay through those services to work
| around the delivery problem. It's still better than nothing
| since they now only see your outbound mail, but inbound mail
| processing & storage is still local & self-hosted.
| HHC-Hunter wrote:
| Quite frankly, it's just not worth the time or maintenance.
| jsn wrote:
| Apparently there's no support for smarthost / relayhost (or I
| can't find any traces of it in the documentation). Running your
| own low traffic mail exchanger without it is often not a pleasant
| experience.
| MitPitt wrote:
| Does anyone know of an SMTP server which is easily usable with
| Caddy? I find tinkering with certificates quite bothersome, and I
| won't give up Caddy as I already host a bunch of apps with it.
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