[HN Gopher] OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early...
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OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024
Author : cloudking
Score : 56 points
Date : 2023-12-01 19:47 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| etewiah wrote:
| This is awesome for the movement to rename GPT to gipety and GPTS
| to gipeties ;)
| intellectronica wrote:
| A "scoop"?! Each and every creator of a GPT has received an email
| with this announcement from OpenAI.
| devindotcom wrote:
| can you forward yours? I didn't get one for whatever reason.
| devin at techcrunch dot com
| egman_ekki wrote:
| > Dear GPT Builder,
|
| > It's been less than a month since we announced GPTs and we
| are blown away by the useful and fun GPTs that you and the
| builder community have created.
|
| > We are continuing to make improvements to GPTs based on
| your feedback. To improve Actions we updated the
| configuration interface, enabled one click testing, added
| debug messages in preview, and now allow multiple domains.
| There have also been questions around uploaded files.
| Uploaded files are downloadable when using Code Interpreter
| so we've made this feature default off and added messaging to
| better explain this. If you have additional feedback, we'd
| love to hear from you here.
|
| > In terms of what's next, we are now planning to launch the
| GPT Store early next year. While we had expected to release
| it this month, a few unexpected things have been keeping us
| busy! In the meantime, we will have some other great updates
| to ChatGPT soon. Thank you for investing time to build a GPT.
|
| > - ChatGPT Team
| devindotcom wrote:
| appreciated, but do you mind forwarding the email itself?
| it's not that I don't trust you, just helpful to have. I
| won't use your email for anything.
|
| edit: thanks to all who sent.
| nwiswell wrote:
| I don't mean to be harsh, but is this journalism now?
|
| When you write an article and say something has been
| corroborated by your "sources", does that mean "forwarded
| to you by anonymous HN posters"?
|
| You don't have an IRL relationship with a source who has
| created a GPT? You can't throw a stone in the valley
| without hitting somebody who has.
| vineet wrote:
| I am hoping that the extra time will mean that they get Custom
| GPTs to work even better.
| NameError wrote:
| The release of plugins was underwhelming for a lot of users, I
| wonder if they're worried about the same thing happening again. I
| had fun making a plugin when they were first announced but the
| developer experience was clunky and frustrating, and there was a
| lot of confusion around how the plugin store actually worked.
|
| I haven't made the time to convert my plugin into a GPT but I'm
| planning to, hopefully it'll be a bit of a smoother experience
| this go around.
| brandall10 wrote:
| I suspect they're a bit like Google... wonderful tech but
| terrible product company.
|
| Everything outside of the quality of their models is suspect:
|
| - GPTs are super quirky w/ weird limitations... try processing
| an image file larger than an emoji from base 64 text and watch
| it render the base64 string in a code window and give up after
| about 1k tokens. The vast majority of the time it doesn't even
| try and hallucinates processing what it thinks a file related
| to the context of the GPT would do.
|
| - The assistants API is a black box of inefficiency and out of
| control costs due to a propensity to barf huge amounts of
| context from problematic RAG, etc. Yet it's not obvious in real
| time because there is no token consumption information like the
| normal chat API. It's almost like they rolled it out like this
| to destroy developer trust on the spot by doing a 'gotcha' to
| anyone naive to roll this out to prod without sufficient
| testing.
|
| I'm honestly unsure how GPTs will in fact be monetized. Are
| purchasers required to have a Plus account w/ sellers getting a
| one time sale? Will sellers have to pay extra usage fees, or a
| shared subscription type thing split between them and OpenAI?
|
| I think they should just give up on this area of the business.
| Dev day produced some anxiety by encroaching on the business
| models of a large segment of newly funded AI startups... then
| showing the efforts to be half-baked while encouraging more
| lock-in just is going to erode trust and uptake on API usage in
| general, possibly having people be relieved when Google Gemini
| and similar efforts are unveiled in the coming months.
| packetlost wrote:
| It really seems like it's there to take any low hanging fruit
| away from the startup market and continue riding the hype
| train as long as possible while paradoxically also bringing
| to light just how useless GPTs are for most serious
| automation tasks.
| azemetre wrote:
| Might be underwhelming because the rollout of allowing authors
| was extremely limited? That's how I felt.
|
| I pay for ChatGPT and never got off the waitlist when first
| announced. Killed all hype for me.
| karmasimida wrote:
| The UX itself isn't good anyway.
|
| I tried to use this is to create a travel itinerary, TBH, it
| is the wrong interface for this task, it is slow and it is
| full of useless information. Ain't good.
|
| The most useful one is probably the PDF reader plugin but now
| that is part of ChatGPT itself.
| huijzer wrote:
| Yes and having to manually toggle the plugins and hope that
| your requests end up in the right one wasn't great either.
| Especially with the 1 action per response limit. The new GPTs
| look and feel much more, for lack of a better word, natural.
| I've had an interaction in the main GPT where it first looked
| up something on the internet and then followed up with
| generating an image and writing a suitable text. I found it
| pretty magical.
| MattDaEskimo wrote:
| Not a surprise considering the recent events. Hope to see more
| information released in the meantime.
| TheCaptain4815 wrote:
| You can use Google as a replacement to find GPTs. For example:
|
| "site:chat.openai.com/g/ <healthcare>"
| kristianpaul wrote:
| Too soon
| tempaccount420 wrote:
| As is, actions in custom GPTs are almost useless right now, since
| you need to approve each and every request. Hopefully they fix
| that.
| ianbicking wrote:
| There's a form in the GPT where you can mark each action as
| "Ask" or... actually only "Ask", not deny or allow. On a single
| request I got a button that said "Always Allow" which I
| clicked... but only once and it did not do as advertised.
|
| Anyway, clearly it's coming.
| Kiro wrote:
| Is anyone actively using custom GPTs? I've really tried to find a
| compelling use case but every thing I can think of is much better
| off as a simple system prompt you just copy and prepend (since
| it's easier to modify it, and it becomes more transparent).
| erlendellingsen wrote:
| I use it to avoid exactly that. Having to store, copy and paste
| various prompts over and over. I create one for each "domain" I
| operate with.
| woah wrote:
| You can upload files. I've made one to act as a coding
| assistant to a little-known language that way. It seems to work
| OK. It makes syntax errors, but I'm not sure if that's a
| limitation of the Custom GPTs paradigm, or if the docs I gave
| it aren't any good. I know there are other services that do
| this kind of thing, but why bother finding one?
| natbennett wrote:
| I have so far found them "useful" mostly for having a
| collection of system prompts, and for sharing silly prompts
| with friends. It's basically a way to attach a prompt to a URL.
|
| For instance I have a "Beastie Bot" that plays a game where it
| categorizes things as "Beasts" or "Beasties."
| stainablesteel wrote:
| the customized GPTs are honestly a let down
|
| you can't do anything fun with them, and that's not because it
| isn't possible but because openai is afraid to step outside of
| the safety zone. the response style really doesn't change much,
| default behavior leaks into everything so easily
|
| what were they expecting?
| Tostino wrote:
| Honestly, I am excited for people to re-implement the API for
| this using open models because of this. Maybe let the API
| stabilize a little, and i'm sure some implementations will pop-
| up.
| morph123 wrote:
| Still dont understand why anyone would "pay" for this. The
| default model will probably be better in pretty much all cases. I
| guess if someone randomly has some sort of esoteric knowledge?
| Seems very limited.
| cactusplant7374 wrote:
| Is a custom GPT just a boatload of prompts injected by default?
| andybak wrote:
| Not sure how much you've used custom GPTs. They are currently
| flawed and buggy but I think they hold promise. They combine 3
| things:
|
| 1. A custom initial prompt (yeah - you can paste this in every
| time and keep a personal database of special purpose prompts -
| but it rather kills the convenience and utility)
|
| 2. A JSON description of one or more APIs that can be used (not
| just for retrieveal of information - but potentially to take
| actions. This aspect is under-explored IMHO)
|
| 3. Uploaded documents which (I presume) are encoded into a
| vector database. This part is currently the most flaky. I was
| hoping this was a way to get round context-window limits. It
| has worked very badly so far and I'm not sure I understand why.
|
| _If_ these things start working effectively in combination
| then there 's potentially a "the whole is greater than the sum
| of it's parts" going on here. Each of these things is fairly
| useful on it's own but if you combine them and have them on tap
| - and someone else has put the hours in to making them useful
| and well-tuned - then it is potentially transformative.
|
| Yes - GPT on it's own is pretty good at a lot of things, but
| you spend a long time working around it's flaws and blind-
| spots.
|
| Custom GPTs don't cure all the warts but they are still
| potentially a force-multiplier.
|
| EDIT - I'm also currently underwhelmed how well the other
| "special powers" work together. Image generation can't be fed
| into Image Understandin. Python is hamstrung in various ways.
| And GPT has no real understanding of how to prompt Dall-E. In
| fact it's worse at prompting than I am.
|
| These flaws are potentially fixable. I hope.
| morph123 wrote:
| I guess. I assume the OpenAI vision, in the short term, is
| for there to be a beefy LLM on top that can call the correct
| sub LLMs that have more bespoke knowledge about random
| things, and sort of orchestrate an answer based on that.
|
| Not sure why OpenAI feels the need to pay people for this
| though, I guess to incentivize use?
| amelius wrote:
| Can't wait for this new feudal lord to be replaced by open
| source.
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