[HN Gopher] Neil Gaiman on the future of the internet
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Neil Gaiman on the future of the internet
Author : vitabenes
Score : 31 points
Date : 2023-11-30 19:56 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| olegious wrote:
| The large platforms enable millions of eyeballs to be aggregated
| together to attract advertising dollars. In return, the eyeballs
| receive an algorithmic feed of bite sized dopamine hits (a Tweet,
| a short video, an Instagram image, etc). It is easier to attract
| an audience, is easier to sell ads against this audience, but is
| this audience as valuable to the creator as Cal's 80K newsletter
| followers? They're different business models and each has its own
| place.
| motohagiography wrote:
| For blogging to form communities (again'-ish), we're going to
| need new protocols. I don't think http is the future for growth.
| The nostalgic internet was a "community," but more because it was
| a scene made up of other scenes, which each had bars to entry,
| signalling costs, social proof, status and competence
| hierarchies, and ultimately, real social networks. Imo, the old
| internet never disappeared, it just migrated to git.
|
| What we're probably overlooking is that _any_ activity where
| people can collaborate to make something together at scale is
| basically magic. I don 't think people will go "back" to blogs
| because the form will need another zero-to-one moment where
| people collaborate with words to discover something new.
| jauntywundrkind wrote:
| I don't have any use why http would be the barrier. Works for
| matrix, works for ActivityPub, works for seemingly whatever.
|
| I was really looking forward to http2 letting servers push
| resources to open connections, but alas the browser
| implementers have yet to get around to extending fetch to
| enable push observability. I love the idea of new chat messages
| coming in as http resourced the page just sees. But even
| without that nice to have, I want real contentions and real
| argumentation around how or where http isn't enough. It seems
| so greatly malleable, can be adapted to serve seemingly any
| scheme. Looking at grpc for example, it's kind of stunning how
| little has to be added to make a bidirectional streaming rpc
| system.
| zwieback wrote:
| Sometimes I wonder if the cozy feeling of the "old" internet so
| many people are nostalgic for was really just a byproduct of a
| few enthusiasts gaining an outsize following because the net was
| financed by universities, governments and the military. Once the
| unwashed masses and commercial interests joined the party things
| "went downhill".
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| You can still blog if you want, you just won't get the automatic
| exposure.
| prepend wrote:
| This is where I settled. The net was kind of hard to use so
| there was a certain kind of user.
|
| Writing blog posts is kind of hard so there weren't a ton.
|
| Then it got easy and everyone is on. So thus the yelling and
| marginalia.
| stvltvs wrote:
| The nostalgia I feel is for the experimental DIY vibe and doing
| stuff for free just because it's fun or you want to contribute
| to a community. Hustle culture and corporate walled gardens
| have sucked the fun out of the old web.
| supercanuck wrote:
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
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