[HN Gopher] Erwin Schrodinger - Sexual Abuse
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       Erwin Schrodinger - Sexual Abuse
        
       Author : karussell
       Score  : 18 points
       Date   : 2023-11-28 22:04 UTC (56 minutes ago)
        
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       | JadeNB wrote:
       | I think that the mangler deleted the relevant part of the
       | address, namely the anchor:
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Schr%C3%B6dinger#Sexual_....
       | (I'm not sure whether this is something that's relevant for HN--
       | or, rather, something that is more relevant now to HN than at any
       | other time--but, as we're always rightly reminded, what's
       | relevant for HN is what interests HN-ers, so I'll keep my opinion
       | inside parentheses.)
        
       | aredox wrote:
       | Freud "invented" Oedipus' complex because most of his patients
       | were describing not their fantasms but their actual sexual abuse
       | at the hands of their father...
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       | https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/1271553
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       | A story has to be written on how prevalent child sexual abuse was
       | in Europe at the turn of the XXth century. Was it as prevalent
       | before? Did it come after the trauma of WWI? Was it a "cultural"
       | movement brought by the stiff values of bourgeoisie? Was it just
       | mechanically spreading - abused children growing up to become
       | abusive parents? There seems to be an anomaly that warrants some
       | research.
        
       | exogeny wrote:
       | Yeah, there's a word for that: pedophile. That's straight
       | grooming.
        
       | IndySun wrote:
       | related - https://trinitynews.ie/2022/02/schrodinger-lecture-
       | theatre-t...
        
       | throwaway34567f wrote:
       | Is the use of the word "rape" in regards to the 17 year old
       | statutory or general?
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       | Rms got cancelled for similar sentiments but throwaway: is it
       | really fair to refer to "grooming" a 14 year old and having sex
       | with her at 17 as pedophilia? Even today and certainly throughout
       | history attitudes have fluctuated greatly in regards to girls
       | that have gone through puberty. Last I checked in the uk 16 is
       | okay. And even in America you can get married to someone under 18
       | with parental consent.
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       | The age of 18 really is arbitrary or at least culturally
       | variable.
       | 
       | We really should distinguish between pre and post puberty when
       | discussing these things. They are not the same and conflating
       | them only undermines the moral/social/political weight that
       | should rightfully so be directed against actual pedophiles.
       | 
       | American popular culture is filled with references to high school
       | girls sleeping with older men. Is it just okay when you are a
       | rockstar or friends with the right people? Or it's only okay to
       | criticize it if your not?
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       | My grandparents got married at 16 and 21. And many of yours
       | probably did too if your my age.
        
         | aredox wrote:
         | Congratulations, you noticed that American popular culture is
         | deeply misogynistic. And that many, many people have not been
         | okay with that for decades.
        
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