[HN Gopher] My favorite database shirts
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My favorite database shirts
Author : k-rus
Score : 170 points
Date : 2023-11-27 15:07 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| bigdict wrote:
| Is this guy seriously running clickbait ads on an academic
| subdomain?
| 123pie123 wrote:
| whats clickbait about it?
|
| it looks like blog about how he likes his t-shirts
|
| I can't see any ads - although my firefox extentions will be
| blocking them if there was any
| KomoD wrote:
| There's ads.
| rafram wrote:
| There are no links to buy any of the shirts on the page. It's a
| tongue-in-cheek comparison of startup swag.
| cbb330 wrote:
| Scroll to the bottom.
| lopkeny12ko wrote:
| Are you talking about the footnotes at the bottom? There
| are no links to buy the shirts there either...
| KomoD wrote:
| No, the ads injected by Disqus
| nlarew wrote:
| Seems like everyone here is running an Adblocker! The post uses
| Disqus for comments and has the built-in (garbage) ads enabled.
|
| I think it's likely that the OP uses an adblocker too and never
| even saw the ads on his own site.
| ydant wrote:
| Good point about the importance of checking your own page
| with your ad blockers and similar turned off.
|
| It's something I imagine a lot of people would forget - I
| don't think the thought ever occurred to me for a personal
| site.
|
| Part of having browsed the web with ad blockers turned on for
| so long is I tend to forget ads exist for the most part - I
| definitely forget how pervasive they are.
| craigkerstiens wrote:
| I love the "this guy" piece... Meanwhile he's been the most
| public person in academia talking about databases over at least
| the last 5 years, maybe the last 10. He's not only done an
| awesome job of talking about foundational pieces of databases,
| but also examining new databases that have come up over the
| last 10 years or so. He's course is quite open as well, so it's
| not just the student base that gets to take advantage -
| https://15445.courses.cs.cmu.edu/fall2023/
|
| The shirts he's generally helped promote and publicize those
| companies so he has things to hand out to his students, TAs,
| graduate students.
| bigdict wrote:
| not talking about the shirts
| bhickey wrote:
| Back in grad school he got put on probation a second time
| after hiring a magician off craigslist for admitted students
| day. The magician showed up drunk and lost his dove in the
| building.
| achileas wrote:
| Wow I like Andy even more now
| bhickey wrote:
| Here's his first trip to probation:
| https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~pavlo/slides/graffiti-
| dc401-oct12.pd...
| snapetom wrote:
| Yes, the glory of social media. One of the most brilliant
| minds in databases, and he's "this guy."
| Andoryuuta wrote:
| Those ads you are seeing above the comments are from the
| comment service, Disqus. Unless you pay 12$/month, the comment
| box iframe will inject ads.
|
| These are not ads directly added by "this guy", but rather by
| his choice of using Disqus for adding comments to the site.
| siva7 wrote:
| Hate to be that guy but you must be fun at a party.
| quickthrower2 wrote:
| Lol all the people with adblockers saying "leave him alone
| there are no ads!"
|
| For extra evil Discus should really pop up an ad blocker
| blocker.
| adamretter wrote:
| Personally I love my Redis shirt and my RocksDB shirt - both
| excellent materials and colours.
| TuringNYC wrote:
| I am biased since I worked at KineticaDB, but the KineticaDB
| t-shirts were the best swag I've ever received. I have a closet
| full of them, 3x/yr across the three years I was there. I wore
| some socially and fashionably, and others at the gym. They used
| high-end fabrics comfortable for day and night.
|
| I think about ROI on marketing and this must be incredible w/r/t
| Employee alignment. Imagine having employees wear your brand day
| in day out!
| dylan604 wrote:
| 3x/yr X 3years == closet full
|
| how small is your closest? i've heard how small apartments can
| be in places like NYC/SF, but if the space provided for your
| clothes is filled by 9 t-shirts, i'm going to need to re-
| evaluate small again.
| Z_Z wrote:
| leave it to hackernews to debate the semantics of figures of
| speech
| TuringNYC wrote:
| The article was on T-Shirts, but I also have 3x * 3 hoodies,
| Patagonia vests, Fleeces, the works.
|
| The 3x * 3 was meant to convey the variety (we did unique
| prints each IRL meeting)
| dminor wrote:
| The 50/50 shirts are great. I've got a stripe shirt that first
| turned me on to them and I went online and bought a bunch of
| blank ones in different colors.
|
| My current company found a similar shirt from bella+canvas that
| is also great. It and the stripe shirt are the only vendor shirts
| in my regular rotation.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Wouldn't it just be easier to find 50/50 t-shirts without the
| branding and not be some tool of a walking billboard rent free?
|
| Edit: Ignore this. Reading comprehension clearly needs work
| cocoflunchy wrote:
| Isn't that exactly what dminor did?
| dylan604 wrote:
| You're right. I misread " went online and bought a bunch of
| blank ones in different colors." by completely reading past
| "blank ones" and thought they went to get different colors
| of the branded shirt.
|
| reading comprehension was always a skill set lost on me
| leetrout wrote:
| I will toss out a second vote for bella+canvas being a modern
| equivalent to the american apparel of yesteryear.
|
| What is very frustrating is I have 2XL shirts from 2007-2009
| that fit better than a 4XL from 2022. I've tried to narrow it
| down to brands and blends and the 50/50 or tri-blend shirts
| have held their true sizes for longer but somewhere along the
| way every brand has seemed to have gotten smaller by full
| inches. In underarmor polos I now buy their tactical line to
| get the equivalent of their "loose" fit from yesteryear. It is
| so frustrating and sometimes a huge money waste buying shirts.
|
| The longest lasting shirts in my closet are some Hurley and
| Billabong shirts from Hot Topic and similar from 2010 or
| earlier.
|
| For any conference organizers or swag buyers reading this,
| please start offering up to 4XL in any cheap brand shirts,
| especially 100% cotton, even if it is preshrunk.
| jprd wrote:
| > Hanes Beefy-T
|
| My current company has been using bella+canvas of late, and I
| wear them _all_the_time_ , they are so comfortable that I worry
| about their durability.
|
| I'm also super, super big into the collars not stretching out.
| I can't stand that -\\_(tsu)_/-
| ecshafer wrote:
| I don't like MongoDB as a technology, but I have that T-Shirt and
| its super comfortable.
| computerfriend wrote:
| Same, and I didn't realise I was holding the number one best
| database t-shirt in my wardrobe.
| monknomo wrote:
| Me too, though mine is getting on towards too threadbare to
| wear in public
| lai wrote:
| Does anyone know of a place to buy techie t-shirts made by next
| level apparel?
| thesh4d0w wrote:
| You can just buy the screenprinting blanks, unless you really
| want the logos. I personally get them from wordans.com.
| CoastalCoder wrote:
| It was so cool to see Mike Stonebraker's face on a t-shirt!
|
| Back in grad school, I was lucky enough to be on a research group
| that he helped lead. He was totally unpretentious, and at the
| time I had no idea what a big deal he was in the database world.
| zellyn wrote:
| For some reason the Google Fiber T-shirt that Google gave out in
| Atlanta is almost indestructible. I've worn mine routinely for
| years, and still see other people wearing them sometimes. Not
| sure exactly what the secret was, but boy would I love to know!
| powerset wrote:
| Must be the quality of the fiber
| zellyn wrote:
| touche
| danielvf wrote:
| I've gotten several Google Fiber t-shirts from a local thrift
| store, and I can confirm - great shirts! I think they are
| NextLevel.
| zellyn wrote:
| NextLevel as a superlative, or
| https://www.nextlevelapparel.com/?
| jroseattle wrote:
| It's been 20+ years but I loved this shirt for it's SQL agnostic-
| ity:
|
| https://www.pinterest.com/pin/lol-code-geek-select-from-user...
|
| (This shows the shirt you could buy once-upon-a-time from
| thinkgeek, which appears to be no more...)
|
| I believe they used beefy-t brand shirts, which was like the
| nicest thing you could get for t-shirts at the time. (Personal
| opinion, don't @ me.)
| leetrout wrote:
| I think my wife finally tossed all my old thinkgeek shirts. I
| had a huge collection from my college years including "There
| are only 10 types of people in this world...", "man love" and
| "there's not place like 127.0.0.1".
|
| Who has filled this void? I know xkcd had/has some geeky shirts
| and they shut down too.
| blacksmith_tb wrote:
| Hmm, I too miss the good ol' days, though I have more old
| tattered Threadless shirts than ThinkGeek. I suppose
| something like shirt.woot.com might be where the (nerdy) kids
| today look?
| easton wrote:
| Cotton Bureau has some, although they are kind of pricy.
| quickthrower2 wrote:
| SELECT * FROM SITES WHERE FLAGS LIKE '%BACKBUTTONHIJACKED%'
| mcoliver wrote:
| My favorite I found on Amazon: I keep all my dad jokes in a
| Dadabase
| jdelman wrote:
| I disagree with nearly this entire post, which is fun. I find
| that the poly blend shirts that the author loves (especially like
| the MongoDB shirt) are clingy and sweaty. Softness is low on my
| list of shirt priorities - comfort and fit are high. I don't know
| how you could see "mongoDB" and not think it is tech, but maybe
| I'm too mired in tech to have an outsider's perspective. Also,
| that dark heathered grey color is everywhere in tech shirts right
| now and it just screams tech. The only one of these with a good
| design is the Altibase shirt, but it suffers from having the
| ugliest color.
|
| Give me black, 100% cotton, heavyweight Hanes Beefy-Ts with
| retro-looking logos.
| djbusby wrote:
| That shirt, with long sleeves. My go-to for 20 years.
| airstrike wrote:
| Somewhat off-topic but for those who want a black, 100% cotton
| and lighterweight t-shirt, IMHO nothing compares to
| Intimissimi[0]
|
| They run a bit small so I recommend one size larger than your
| regular size. They're currently on sale from Black Friday so
| only $14.30 each. (Large Black is now out-of-stock, sorry!)
|
| They also make many other varieties like v necks, long sleeve,
| modal/cashmere/ etc.
|
| _(Claimer: I 'm not affiliated or getting a referral from
| this... I just think they're a lesser known brand in the US)_
|
| __________
|
| 0.
| https://www.intimissimi.com/us/product/short_sleeve_crew_nec...
| airstrike wrote:
| Also worth noting that the only review on the website is very
| accurate despite being a 1-star review: "The quality of
| material is great. Neck is too low. Too lenghty".
|
| These are exactly the reasons why I like this shirt. Great
| material, neck is not too tight, probably an inch longer than
| many other fitted t-shirts, so your underwear isn't showing
| all the time.
| loxias wrote:
| Very good to know, now I won't waste $15. ;-)
|
| This whole comment thread is teaching me that apparently
| there isn't /any/ objective truth when it comes to t shirt
| comfort.
|
| Before today I figured that was an objective fact that the
| cheap Hanes ones were unloved -- neck always stretched out,
| too short and stout.
|
| I'm a fan of LA apparel (aka american apparel) as well as
| some bella+canvas ones. That stretched out neck just gives
| me flashbacks to middle school, ugh.
| hodgesrm wrote:
| > This whole comment thread is teaching me that
| apparently there isn't any objective truth when it comes
| to t shirt comfort.
|
| That's true of many things and has been for a long time.
| "De gustibus non disputandum est," as the Romans said.
| "It's useless to argue about taste."
| leetrout wrote:
| Follow on, my biggest frustration with these super thin, clingy
| shirts is how _everyone_ is showing their nipples through them
| now.
| CrazyStat wrote:
| Why does seeing nipples through a tshirt bother you so much?
| 0xbadcafebee wrote:
| Thelephobia - fear of nipples
| nerdponx wrote:
| It's just a weird fleshy body part that I'm not used to
| seeing and generally don't want to see on other people.
| Also the feeling of a plasticky "technical" shirt on my
| _own_ nipples is very unpleasant.
| hotnfresh wrote:
| Well--T-shirts _did_ start out as underwear.
| bubblethink wrote:
| >I don't know how you could see "mongoDB" and not think it is
| tech
|
| Depends on the age. MongoDB may not have been such a common
| name back when the tshirt came out. I have a couple of Palantir
| t-shirts (american apparel, 100% cotton I think) that have held
| up over a decade and are really comfortable. One of them says,
| "Save the shire" and Palantir. I don't think people would have
| known that it's a tech tshirt back then.
| mulmen wrote:
| Everything about that organization offends me. They took
| their name from a series of books they apparently never read.
|
| How is Palantir supposed to save the shire? By trampling the
| rights of the Hobbits in addition to destroying their
| environment?
|
| The Palantir show a narrow view of events and lead to their
| users to ruin. It's like they read the cautionary tale as an
| instruction manual.
|
| They chose an accurate name for what their product does, but
| I can't understand how a person with that clarity of thought
| would decide to actually make one.
| pc86 wrote:
| This seems unrelated to the comfort and fit of their
| shirts, but maybe not?
| dbt00 wrote:
| Palantir is a Quenya word meaning far-seeing. The last
| successful king of Numenor was Tar-Palantir for example.
|
| The palantiri were corrupted by Sauron and limited to only
| show things that he wanted you to see. This was extremely
| well known inside Palantir and was deliberately talked
| about as something we should all consider the risk of.
|
| The origin story of Palantir was the intelligence failures
| that led to the 9/11 attacks not being caught. The goal was
| to prevent the total eradication of civil liberties that
| would necessarily follow another successful attack of that
| magnitude.
|
| Palantir's software was rejected by organizations
| performing dragnet style mass data collection.
|
| This is the most pointless hn comment I'll ever leave, but
| you shouldn't assume other people are ignorant or acting
| out of malice.
|
| Also the tshirts were comfy as fuck and extremely well
| designed.
| ljm wrote:
| The author calls a hoodie a shirt. I'm not sure I trust their
| opinion on the fit and comfort of database-branded apparel.
| bitvoid wrote:
| To be fair, it's not really a hoodie either as I feel that
| implies it's a sweater or has the thickness of one. It really
| is just a long sleeve shirt with a hood attached.
| stvltvs wrote:
| What is the distinction in your mind?
| munificent wrote:
| I strongly disagree with the claim that it's a hoodie simply
| because it has a hood. Many hooded garments are not hoodies.
| To be a hoodie, it must be made out of thicker sweatshirt
| material.
|
| A long-sleeve T-shirt with a hood is just a long-sleeve
| T-shirt with a hood.
| mathgeek wrote:
| Indeed. Anyone who lives near a beach in a warm climate is
| likely familiar with these long sleeve hooded "tees".
| ourmandave wrote:
| My holy grail was the Hanes ComfortSoft 100% cotton T.
| Available in 6-paks at the local Walmart. They start soft and
| just get better.
|
| But they changed the fabric a while ago and it's not the same.
|
| Still have a few that are getting pretty threadbare.
| a_t48 wrote:
| Black 100% cotton tends to collect lint and cat hair, doesn't
| it?
| matsemann wrote:
| > don't know how you could see "mongoDB" and not think it is
| tech
|
| I disagree with the author in that I would be comfortable
| wearing a mongodb shirt in public. Mongoloid is a slur, and at
| least in Norway it's often shortened to "mongo".
| stvltvs wrote:
| Interesting, in the States, that term is no longer used very
| much and was never shortened AFAIK.
| tannhaeuser wrote:
| > _I don 't know how you could see "mongoDB" and not think it
| is tech_
|
| Idk but mongo-anything has clearly insulting connotations
| hasn't it? I'm not a fan of cancelling language at all but
| still find it very surprising a product with that name could
| advance that far in enterprise computing. I guess I had hoped
| the article would explain the joke I was missing here.
|
| Update: ads on a CMU site?
| ifaxmycodetok8s wrote:
| I had that exact MongoDB shirt. Got it from a hackathon back in
| 2014. Was such a soft shirt. Loved it.
| throw0101c wrote:
| _The History Guy_ recently posted "A Brief History of the T
| Shirt":
|
| * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds_xyrZCSo8
|
| Generally: started out as undershirts, became work shirts
| (especially in the USN during WW2), and then folks just started
| wearing them on a daily basis post-war, mostly in 'misfit' /
| counter-culture groups in the 1950s (especially amongst
| teenagers), and the hippy culture embracing them in the 1960s.
| danielvf wrote:
| Like the author, my favorite t-shirt of all time is an early
| 2010's American Apparel blend shirt, (though mine is a Stripe
| CTF3 winner shirt.) However, American Apparel changed something
| mid decade, and I've never been able to get anything close to as
| comfortable as those shirts.
|
| My current standard shirt are the NextLevel tri-blends, which are
| almost as good, and can be ordered plain online, or you can find
| them with all the logos you want in thrift store near techie
| areas.
| ellisv wrote:
| Did Andy update something about this post (from 2016)?
| apavlo wrote:
| No. I've been meaning to do an updated article but I've been
| unfortunately too busy. A bunch of companies send us shirts to
| give out to students:
|
| * https://twitter.com/andy_pavlo/status/1659019035818729472
|
| * https://twitter.com/andy_pavlo/status/1335045678876270592
|
| * https://twitter.com/andy_pavlo/status/1125465168023048193
|
| * https://twitter.com/andy_pavlo/status/996191088372322304
|
| * https://twitter.com/andy_pavlo/status/862320227601850368
|
| My highlights from the last 6-7 years:
|
| * DuckDB (European embroidery!)
|
| * Materialize (like Snowflake)
|
| * Yellowbrick (wild designs)
|
| * Timescale (old logo was popular)
|
| -- Andy
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| (2016)
| stickfigure wrote:
| I'm in the print space and this post is weird. I have that exact
| same green MongoDB on the AA 50/50, as well as a couple other
| MongoDB shirts printed on different blanks. Somebody picked the
| design, picked a blank, and printed a batch. Next week somebody
| else will pick a different blank, maybe even for the same design.
| nofinator wrote:
| +1 for how great the Snowflake t-shirt is (ranked #3). I wore it
| a lot during the COVID era, and the poly blend is still soft and
| has withstood a lot of washing and drying.
|
| When we signed onto Snowflake in 2019, a week later a surprise
| HUGE box of swag arrived, with a dozen shirts and lots of other
| things. Our team and corner of the office became The Place To Be
| for a while.
| sbuttgereit wrote:
| I've gotten a couple PostgreSQL t-shirts over the years when I
| volunteered for this or that.
|
| My favorite one is the one for the release of PostgreSQL 8.4.
| It's simply blue on white and the design is after one of the
| boxes from the periodic table of the elements: with "Pg" in the
| middle and (as I recall, it's not in front of me now) and an
| "atomic weight" of 8.4.
|
| The other was for the release of PostgreSQL 9.0 when replication
| was introduced. It's a blue shirt with white print. That banner
| feature is the prominent text on the front and a herd of
| Elephants charging at the viewer like you might see a stampede of
| horses do on a western movie's poster.
|
| Good designs celebrating milestone events for the project.
| Sohcahtoa82 wrote:
| My favorite t-shirt has the Azure logo in the style of the Amazon
| logo on the front, and the AWS logo in the style of the Azure
| logo on the back.
|
| https://github.com/jogerj/misbrands/blob/master/azure.svg
|
| https://github.com/jogerj/misbrands/blob/master/aws.svg
| easton wrote:
| Did you have that made or is there somewhere to buy it?
|
| This is the exact kind of dumb shirt I'm looking for
| Sohcahtoa82 wrote:
| I had CafePress make it for me.
|
| I originally tried SpreadShirt, but they rejected the design
| due to copyright.
| erwinkle wrote:
| I have like 6 of those MongoDB tshirts and they are SO COMFY
| montanalow wrote:
| If anyone would like a free PostgresML T-shirt, we just did our
| first run. Feel free to email me with your shipping info and
| size. It'd also be nice to get to know you a bit if your email
| address isn't obvious.
| reducesuffering wrote:
| You need to put your email in your profile. People aren't going
| to comment it.
| Icathian wrote:
| Echoing the other commenter, I'd be very interested but I can't
| find an email address to ping you.
|
| I'm a database geek and would happily rep your stuff!
| geophile wrote:
| I worked at Akiban for nearly its entire history, and I don't
| think I even _saw_ one of their t-shirts.
| xbar wrote:
| None of those compare to my Legend of ZDLRA: A Link Between
| Databases shirt but I'm grateful to have a forum to review such
| things.
| turtlebits wrote:
| Tableau used to give employees t-shirts multiple times a year (I
| had at least 15 by the time I left). I had a favorite I'm now
| reminded used "Next Level" shirts. Time to go buy a bunch of
| their blank t-shirts.
| DonHopkins wrote:
| I used to have a really nice tie dyed Microsoft DirectX t-shirt
| that I got as swag from the Microsoft booth at CGDC the year it
| was released, that I loved to wear to Linux and open source
| software conferences, to make people's heads explode.
| nlavezzo wrote:
| I'm partial to my FoundationDB shirts :)
| _dan wrote:
| I have a MongoDB shirt of the same vintage and I can confirm they
| are indeed soft AF.
| harrisonjackson wrote:
| Before clicking through I had that mongodb shirt in mind as my
| personal favorite.
|
| I got a few of them at aws reinvent in like 2012.
|
| 2nd favorite is a Cassandra one of similar make.
| achileas wrote:
| Still waiting for a vendor to hand out some branded y-back tanks
| laxd wrote:
| PostgreSQL? And OracleDB as a joke christmas present?
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