[HN Gopher] European Telecom Body to Open-Source Radio Encryptio...
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       European Telecom Body to Open-Source Radio Encryption System
        
       Author : PaulHoule
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2023-11-20 20:13 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.bankinfosecurity.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bankinfosecurity.com)
        
       | ThePowerOfFuet wrote:
       | Better link, without a cookie wall to boot:
       | 
       | https://www.etsi.org/newsroom/press-releases/2293-etsi-relea...
        
         | contingencies wrote:
         | Context https://www.wired.com/story/tetra-radio-encryption-
         | backdoor/ and https://www.tetraburst.com/
        
       | gruturo wrote:
       | bankinfosecurity.com has been spamming me on my work email, which
       | I never provided to them, clearly having bought the address
       | "somewhere". Please don't link to them, this rewards their shitty
       | conduct.
        
       | agevag wrote:
       | The interesting one is Tetrapol.
        
       | dist-epoch wrote:
       | Is there a cheap encrypted hand walkie-talkie can you buy and
       | legally use in Europe? AES 128 bit? Last I checked you were only
       | able to buy "privacy" radios (16-32 bit key).
        
         | fidotron wrote:
         | This is unlikely. Amateur radio bands usage, for example, must
         | very much not be encrypted, and my recollection is messages are
         | supposed to be "of a personal or technical nature" according to
         | ITU rules. i.e. there is regulation around not using radio for
         | subverting states.
         | 
         | Within CB might be another story, but it would be highly likely
         | to annoy other CB users.
        
       | jszymborski wrote:
       | > ...in defiance of a widely accepted cryptographic principle
       | holding that obscurity is detrimental to security.
       | 
       | Security isn't my field, but my understanding is that this is a
       | bit of a common misunderstanding re: Kerckhoff's Doctrine /
       | Security through Obscurity.
       | 
       | The idea being that keeping something like a Cipher's algo secret
       | is not necessarily detrimental to security, but that relying on
       | obscurity to provide security rather than the merits of the algo
       | is the problem.
       | 
       | Surely, opening the algo allows the community to audit it, but a
       | group of experts sworn to secrecy can also do this (e.g. NSA's
       | Suite A ciphers)
       | 
       | EDIT: I should add that opening TETRA is almost certainly a good
       | idea if they can update it with help of the community.
        
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