[HN Gopher] Volunteer.gov: Discover volunteer opportunities arou...
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       Volunteer.gov: Discover volunteer opportunities around the country
        
       Author : KoftaBob
       Score  : 148 points
       Date   : 2023-11-18 09:50 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | oooyay wrote:
       | There's two opportunities open at Crater Lake that are literally
       | full time jobs in search and rescue.
        
         | GavinMcG wrote:
         | _Preventative_ search and rescue, for at least one--which is
         | the opposite of what you 'd typically imagine "search and
         | rescue" entails, and if effective, obviates the need.
        
           | oooyay wrote:
           | It does require going on dangerous trails in inclement
           | weather and it's a full time job. That was more my point.
           | Seems like things that should be paid.
        
       | umvi wrote:
       | Nice, didn't know about this.
       | 
       | Perhaps much smaller in scope, but justserve.org is a good one
       | for finding service/volunteer opportunities in your local
       | community
        
         | styxfrix wrote:
         | > JustServe.org is provided as a service by The Church of Jesus
         | Christ of Latter-day Saints.
         | 
         | hmm...
        
           | idiotsecant wrote:
           | Careful, you might accidentally interact with someone with
           | different ideas than you!
        
           | jimmygrapes wrote:
           | Say what you will about Mormon/LDS religious beliefs, but I
           | have never met anybody more selfless and pleasant when it
           | comes to volunteering and caring for those in need. I've been
           | a recipient of that kindness and co-participant in many
           | volunteer activities with them, and not once felt like there
           | was any attempt to push a belief on me other than "be kind to
           | others". I probably wouldn't want to join them at church or
           | read their literature other than as entertainment, but the
           | individual people don't deserve all the hate that the church
           | gets as a whole.
        
           | fragmede wrote:
           | Do you have a specific allegation here or are you just
           | casting aspersions because you don't like the LDS church?
        
       | WarOnPrivacy wrote:
       | My state has 15 physical opportunities and 1 for data work. The
       | closest physical option is 4 hours away.
        
         | toomuchtodo wrote:
         | https://codeforamerica.org/ might have more flexible, remote
         | opportunities.
        
           | KennyBlanken wrote:
           | > We aren't accepting new volunteers for this program at the
           | moment. Please check back in early October for further
           | updates.
        
           | tootie wrote:
           | There are few if any ways to do voluntary software
           | development. At least not for a charity org. Few of them need
           | software work and of those that do it's really hard to just
           | bring in volunteers have them do something useful. Probably
           | the best thing you can do is just work on useful open source.
        
       | saulpw wrote:
       | These all appear to be full-time unpaid work? Like the
       | expectations are incredibly joblike and the pay is free housing
       | and a visitor's pass to all national parks.
        
         | toomuchtodo wrote:
         | They are volunteer opportunities, typically sought by folks who
         | don't need an income (retirees, students, etc). If you're
         | looking for paid work, there are alternatives:
         | 
         | https://www.usajobs.gov/
         | 
         | https://www.whitehouse.gov/climatecorps/
        
           | boomboomsubban wrote:
           | I wasn't expecting paid work, but I also wasn't expecting
           | "come live in this cabin for several months while you work
           | full time in a visitors bureau."
           | 
           | The map data entry opportunity that seems to be available in
           | every state was closer to what I expected, some projects
           | people could spend a few hours a week on in their hometown.
        
             | arrakeenrevived wrote:
             | You can filter the opportunities to only show "Event" types
             | (as opposed to "Position" types) which are things like one-
             | off volunteer events like this one:
             | https://www.volunteer.gov/s/volunteer-
             | opportunity/a093d00000...
             | 
             | But in general, I agree with you. From what I can tell,
             | even though this is just broadly called "volunteer.gov", it
             | really seems like it's specific to the Bureau of Land
             | Management/National Park Service, and is missing a large
             | amount of types of positions that I think most people would
             | expect when they think "go volunteer".
        
               | anjel wrote:
               | Old enough to recall a time when parks and museums were
               | free of admission costs as was the parking? Congress in
               | all its wisdom slashed those budgets but good over the
               | last 4 decades and these job postings are symptomatic of
               | these Bureau of Land Management/National Park Service
               | fiscal funding revisions as well.
        
             | toomuchtodo wrote:
             | A family member works one of these jobs, so it's probably
             | my bias that this is reasonable. They love it and live off
             | a military pension, getting to live in the wilderness (a
             | national park near the Canadian border) and provide service
             | to others who want to experience it.
        
               | boomboomsubban wrote:
               | There's really only two kinds of people I can see going
               | for these. Those like your family member, with a steady
               | revenue source and a desire to spend 40+ hours a week in
               | a park anyway, and those hoping to leverage this into a
               | paying gig.
               | 
               | This isn't a bad thing, just isn't what I expected when I
               | saw this post.
        
         | codemac wrote:
         | There is some crazy stuff in these volunteer positions:
         | https://www.volunteer.gov/s/volunteer-opportunity/a093d00000...
         | Volunteers are expected to contribute a minimum of three 8-hour
         | shifts per week (8:45AM-5:15PM) with a half hour lunch for a
         | period of three to four months.                  Weekend
         | availability is required.                  Consecutive days off
         | are offered, except in unusual circumstances.
         | 
         | Days off are offered? lol
        
           | hanniabu wrote:
           | > Consecutive days off
           | 
           | "Consecutive days off" is much different than "days off"
        
           | slimsag wrote:
           | Might not be all that crazy; people are often sentenced by
           | courts to perform community service - perhaps related?
           | 
           | There's also apparently a volunteer -> actual employment
           | process for national park service.
        
       | synergy20 wrote:
       | is there a site to students for volunteering hours or regular
       | volunteering
        
       | Isthatablackgsd wrote:
       | This is neat thing! Is there similar site for non-profit
       | organizations or private sectors?
        
         | lcall wrote:
         | https://justserve.org if available in your area.
        
         | hoppyhoppy2 wrote:
         | https://volunteermatch.org
        
       | KennyBlanken wrote:
       | Warning to any mobile users: the site has an enormous banner
       | image that is absolutely crawling over a high speed wired
       | connection. I'm going to guess some idiot uploaded a high
       | resolution PNG...
       | 
       | There's a general "search" field with no indication of how to
       | search for a geographical area.
       | 
       | I did a search and everything that comes up are janitorial
       | positions for the national park service. In what reality are
       | people going to volunteer to scrub bathrooms for tourists?
        
       | WarOnPrivacy wrote:
       | The thing about volunteer sites, the first one you visit can be
       | impractical or worse, especially if it was placed in front of
       | you.
       | 
       | If I search for->thru a half doz volunteer sites, I tend to find
       | usable opportunities.
       | 
       | Case in point: americorps.gov. Enter zip code; go to the results
       | page. Distance is 20mi. Results: 1-4 are four states away, 5-6
       | are virtual, 6 is seven states away. 8-9 duplicate Exchange
       | Student hosting. 10-11 are nearby and look like what I'd expect.
       | 
       | Volunteerism is trust-based and confusing me at step 1 isn't the
       | best way there.
       | 
       | habitat.org. My zipcode yields HFH offices (not build locations).
       | None in my county. I imagine there's an (reasonable!) onboarding
       | process beyond a background check. There are HFH stores that are
       | closer; they prob have volunteers. It's not obvious on this page
       | that there's somewhere I can click to find a FAQ or a splainer
       | about different opportunities.
       | 
       | volunteermatch.org. This seems more inviting+useful. My zipcode
       | gets me 2 dozen nearby opportunities with locations, informative
       | headlines and brief descriptions. All right on the results page.
       | 
       | These were from the top results of a Kagi search. There are quite
       | a few beyond that that look worth clicking into.
        
         | beams_of_light wrote:
         | Anecdote: My wife has been in volunteer management for quite a
         | while now, and in her multiple roles has used Volunteer Match.
         | It's a good platform, both for volunteers and organizers.
        
       | pierat wrote:
       | Really? Why the hell should I volunteer to work for one of the
       | richest governments in the world? What are they going for? The
       | wealthy and bored housewives?
       | 
       | I have no issue with volunteering for non-profits to do things
       | like food distribution and homeless shelters. But volunteering
       | for the USG? HAH fuck you pay me.
        
         | idiotsecant wrote:
         | We _are_ the government. It 's just people. The more rural and
         | remote you get, the more this is true. There are countless
         | volunteer search and rescue, firefighter, food distribution,
         | etc in rural areas who volunteer to help because they want to
         | improve and safeguard the community. This is the natural state
         | of humanity, it just gets weird once you have enough people in
         | one place that you need to make abstractions like 'government'
         | instead of 'joe who has a snowmobile and does s&r for the town
         | when needed'
        
           | pierat wrote:
           | That's not true. It's an organization made up of people, but
           | is something distinctly different that individuals.
           | 
           | Again, I made a point to say I'm for actual volunteer work,
           | but doing so for a organization with trillions of dollars not
           | even accounted for is laughable. Joing a group for SaR is
           | completely different than a job and not paid.
           | 
           | And, at the same time the federal government is begging for
           | free labor, they're selling our national parks to Booze Allen
           | Hamilton for $$$$$$
           | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37549569
        
       | mistrial9 wrote:
       | the (implied) social contract around volunteering is "everything"
       | .. here in California I was bluntly told by my Japanese colleague
       | "never volunteer, you are being taken advantage of"
       | 
       | true to his words, the only volunteer contact I got with that guy
       | later was to be an usher at an exclusive dot-com event in San
       | Francisco, pre-covid.. I did do it to hear the speakers, and lo-
       | and-behold, the organizers mostly thought of the volunteers as
       | worthless suckers.. you could see it. And, volunteers got the
       | 'show up on time' authority talk from a typical hotel-worker-
       | manager type, too! awful
        
       | circuit wrote:
       | Quite a few of these "opportunities" are asking a LOT of
       | volunteers, implicitly asking for unpaid labor. These are not
       | your typical "volunteer a few hours a week helping fix up a
       | school/sorting at a food bank/helping the homeless" to give back
       | to your community.
       | 
       | Look at this[1] particular ask:
       | 
       | > Applicants must be available to work a minimum of 32 hours per
       | week.
       | 
       | > [minimum 3 month commitment with possibility to extend to a
       | year] ... Weekend and holiday work is required.
       | 
       | > shovel snow for extended periods of time, hike-ski-snowshoe in
       | extreme weather conditions with a 35-pound backpack at 7,000ft,
       | live in remote locations with regularly snow packed roads.
       | 
       | > Groceries and shopping facilities are approximately 60 miles
       | away; reliable personal transportation is required.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.volunteer.gov/s/volunteer-
       | opportunity/a093d00000...
        
         | stephenr wrote:
         | I think you missed out this part:
         | 
         | > Housing is included
        
           | circuit wrote:
           | You missed the last half of that sentence. It's a room, not a
           | house, that you will be likely be sharing with someone else.
           | 
           | > room in a shared apartment or house.
        
             | arrakeenrevived wrote:
             | The target audience of volunteers for this type of position
             | are people that are probably used to happily sleeping in
             | tents and eating camp food for days/weeks at a time. I
             | don't think they'd mind.
        
               | abluecloud wrote:
               | guess it's a race to the bottom then
        
               | Apocryphon wrote:
               | It's for the self-selecting who see it as an experience,
               | not a race.
        
             | stephenr wrote:
             | Why would you expect it to be an entire house for one
             | person? It's a volunteer position in a national park, not
             | Jimmy Carters newest deal: homes for extremely introverted
             | humans.
        
               | hyperhopper wrote:
               | As somebody that's enjoyed many months living exclusively
               | in hostels:
               | 
               | You're out of your mind. Homes should be a standard.
               | That's like, one of the basic human wants/needs as an
               | organism. And having the privacy of your own space is
               | essential to the human psyche.
        
               | lazyasciiart wrote:
               | What?
        
               | hyperhopper wrote:
               | Which part are you confused about? I like to have a lock
               | on my door.
        
           | abluecloud wrote:
           | does that include food and drink?
        
           | kjlkjlkjkj wrote:
           | healthcare too? and food and pension?
        
             | seabass-labrax wrote:
             | I don't know how it works across the pond, but in Britain,
             | some amount of volunteer activity is allowed whilst
             | officially unemployed. This means that the country
             | contributes National Insurance payments on your behalf so
             | that you'll be able to receive treatment by the National
             | Health Service and a state pension.
             | 
             | https://www.gov.uk/guidance/volunteering-and-claiming-
             | benefi...
             | 
             | https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-credits/eligibility
        
               | michaelmrose wrote:
               | On this side of the pond unemployment is mostly 13-26
               | weeks of a fraction of the money you earned previously
               | and requires you to be actively seeking and available for
               | work. You can neither be volunteering nor pursuing
               | education even if you are laid off and need training in
               | another field.
               | 
               | In some particularly stingy places this is as little as
               | the equivalent of 80 pounds per week whereas rent is oft
               | closer to 800 pounds per month.
               | 
               | In many cases its something you receive later after weeks
               | or months of bureaucratic wrangling after you would long
               | ago have lost your housing if you didn't have any of your
               | own money saved.
               | 
               | Hell we make sure you can't exploit the system by getting
               | food stamps or housing help while going to college even
               | if you are poor as a church mouse.
               | 
               | Heck we set the benefits threshold low enough that as you
               | move from part time employment to full time employment
               | the poorest households experience a hump where if you
               | move to full time you may end up poorer than you started
               | because you lose more benefits than you gain income. This
               | is especially true if you go from free medical care to
               | $500-$800 out of pocket.
               | 
               | Because most professions don't involve doubling your
               | wages regularly one has to in effect agree to take on
               | more work to climb into greater poverty in order to work
               | your way out the other side IF increasing costs ever let
               | you get ahead in the first place.
               | 
               | One of the most attractive ways OUT of permanent poverty
               | is naturally a college education however this will almost
               | certainly be by way of borrowing tens of thousands of
               | dollars but since you don't qualify for benefits during
               | your education and you need to keep eating and living
               | inside you are liable to need to continue to work full
               | time which creates a much higher chance of failure which
               | stands to leave you without a degree with thousands of
               | dollars of undischargable debt.
               | 
               | This concludes our tour of one of the shitty parts of
               | America.
        
         | constantly wrote:
         | Where exactly are you drawing the line before using scare
         | quotes around volunteering? Is 10 hours a week too much? Is
         | requiring transportation too much? Would working at 5,000ft vs
         | 7,000ft be ok?
         | 
         | For what it's worth: if I were at a time in my life where I
         | could do the linked opportunity, I absolutely would. Even
         | better would be an Antarctica opportunity for a winter season.
        
           | circuit wrote:
           | Depends on the person, but requiring anything over 30 hours a
           | week to me is part-time work commitment, and compensation is
           | deserved
        
             | constantly wrote:
             | Then if I were you, I would absolutely not take any
             | volunteer opportunities that don't meet this criterion.
             | Otherwise, in some cases these seem like amazing
             | opportunities that pay in experiences much more valuable
             | than money. Working at Crater Lake would be a dream come
             | true for me.
        
               | zlg_codes wrote:
               | I'm sure _experience_ can pay my bills...
        
               | hiatus wrote:
               | Since when is volunteering supposed to pay your bills??
        
               | zlg_codes wrote:
               | Do bills stop existing because one chooses to volunteer?
               | Volunteering is an economic decision every bit as
               | impactful as a job.
        
               | dragonwriter wrote:
               | > Do bills stop existing because one chooses to
               | volunteer?
               | 
               | Bills don't stop existing because I choose to eat a watch
               | a sunset, either, but I don't ask if watching a sunset is
               | going to pay my bills. People obviously need a way to pay
               | their bills, and lots of activities they might engage in
               | aren't part of that. If _you_ aren 't in a position where
               | you can do an activity because of what _you_ need to do
               | to pay your bills, than that activity clearly isn 't for
               | you, but unless you were personally and specifically
               | solicited for that activity by someone who should have
               | been aware of your personal circumstances, I don't see
               | how that warrants anything besides "well, that's not for
               | me".
               | 
               | Your circumstances aren't universal.
        
               | dragonwriter wrote:
               | No, it can't, but then, volunteering isn't a job, and its
               | function isn't to pay your bills.
               | 
               | A particular volunteer opportunity may not be interesting
               | to you, because of the time commitment and the
               | opportunity cost of sacrificing paid work, or because you
               | aren't interested in the particular area of volunteer
               | work, or because you just aren't interested in donating
               | labor in general, but... so what? The posting of the
               | volunteer opportunity isn't a personal solicitation aimed
               | at you, either.
        
             | stephenr wrote:
             | I don't think you understand what volunteer means.
        
               | circuit wrote:
               | It's called having boundaries. I volunteer on the
               | weekends and some weekdays at a local homeless shelter. I
               | volunteer at the local library. I will be volunteering at
               | our local food bank to help support food insecure
               | families. It's a good way to get grounded in your
               | community and impart some real positive impact on your
               | fellow neighbors.
               | 
               | What I will not do is be exploited for free labor by the
               | USGS who can absolutely afford to pay someone to do the
               | contract work they are asking for. But by all means, if
               | you want to, go for it.
        
               | arrakeenrevived wrote:
               | Your boundaries aren't the same as someone else's
               | boundaries, and just because someone else has different
               | boundaries doesn't mean they don't have any at all.
               | 
               | Some people wouldn't want to spend their weekends working
               | at a homeless shelter unless they were paid for it, but
               | would happily spend time in a national park without being
               | paid for it, and don't see it as being "exploited". You
               | have different values/interests, and that's fine, but I
               | don't know why you're trying so hard to be condescending
               | to people that just have different interests than you do.
        
               | stephenr wrote:
               | > if you want to, go for it
               | 
               | They described a _high_ of 4degc as  "mild". Fuck that.
               | 
               | But that isn't my point: people do all sorts of things to
               | volunteer for others/organisations. Just because you
               | wouldn't do it unpaid doesn't mean it isn't volunteering.
        
             | dragonwriter wrote:
             | Any labor _deserves_ compensation. Volunteering is choosing
             | to donate labor, not doing labor that doesn 't deserve
             | compensation. That's true if its 1 hour every other week or
             | 40 hours a week, not a function of the time commitment.
             | 
             | IF and how much any given person is willing and, given
             | their other circumstances, able to donate is, obviously,
             | highly variable between people.
        
           | no_circuit wrote:
           | Some people may see the use of the word volunteering as
           | virtue signaling, it depends on the audience. IMO, if you
           | assist at the local blood bank during a donation drive after
           | a disaster -- that's volunteering. If you are retired and/or
           | rich and can afford to go do Antarctica to assist with
           | research for three months as an essential role or not --
           | that's free labor.
           | 
           | A person living paycheck-to-paycheck may view the Antarctica
           | opportunity as pompous, but environmental-club peers may view
           | it as volunteering to save the planet and deserves a round of
           | cheers with drinks in hand.
        
         | mistrial9 wrote:
         | somewhat similar to unpaid internships for adults who have
         | finished an expensive 18 month MBA program? slightly worse?
        
           | stephenr wrote:
           | I'd wager the volunteers are less annoying to be around.
        
         | arrakeenrevived wrote:
         | Some of these postings are indeed asking a lot, but I don't
         | think this specific one is that crazy. It's essentially an
         | opportunity to live out in the wilderness and go hiking
         | regularly, with free housing provided in exchange for
         | maintenance and rescue work. I know a lot of outdoors
         | enthusiasts that would love to do that. Hell, I know a lot of
         | outdoors enthusiasts that would probably do it without the free
         | housing, or even pay out of pocket to do it (see also: PCT or
         | Appalachian Trail hikers).
        
           | waveBidder wrote:
           | not exactly what I'd describe as volunteering though.
        
             | apwell23 wrote:
             | yea thats more like barter
        
               | lazyasciiart wrote:
               | No. It's a legal status that says you will perform work
               | for a registered nonprofit and they will cover some of
               | the costs you incur, but you will not come out
               | materially/financially ahead.
        
             | bruce511 wrote:
             | I'm going to suggest a new term here - "context
             | dissonance". This occurs when you see something, and
             | because it doesn't apply to your context, you can't imagine
             | it applying to any context.
             | 
             | For example, you use Linux, and can't understand why anyone
             | would use Windows. Or you're a work-from-home fan and can't
             | understand why some people want to work in an office, or
             | why management might need it.
             | 
             | Or, as in thus case, if you work primarily for money the
             | idea of a job that pays in something other than money seems
             | exploiting.
             | 
             | Whereas, of course, there are lots of people who have
             | enough money to meet their needs, and are instead looking
             | for something else. Solitude, Community, Experience and so
             | on.
             | 
             | I don't say this to be disrespectful at all, but part of
             | maturing is in understanding that others can have a
             | different point of view of things. We don't all have to be
             | the same, with the same goals.
             | 
             | These are unpaid positions, with specific requirements and
             | benefits. Clearly they don't sppareal to you and thats
             | fine, but perhaps, just perhaps, there's someone out there
             | this is perfect for.
        
               | sharkweek wrote:
               | I can't do it right now (young family, work
               | responsibilities) but if I'm fortunate enough to retire
               | at a reasonable age and am in good health, I 100% plan on
               | doing these extended volunteering opportunities with NPS
               | or other similar more localized efforts.
               | 
               | There are so many things I complain about in the US but
               | our national parks and the services that make them
               | accessible are not one of them.
               | 
               | I truly believe capital E everyone benefits from spending
               | time in nature, and want to find ways to support this
               | however I can. I really appreciate the feelings I get
               | after extended periods of time in the woods/mountains.
        
               | nonrandomstring wrote:
               | > "context dissonance"
               | 
               | I like that and think it fits here.
               | 
               | Some people can't imagine picking up litter or caring for
               | the elderly as anything but torture and humiliation. For
               | others, the chance to do it, to feel valued is what makes
               | life. Context might be that you became unemployed and
               | just got sick of seeing garbage in your street.
               | 
               | During the pandemic cabin fever drove me out to do
               | volunteering at the church and vaccine drop-ins.
               | 
               | I volunteered a lot in my 20s. Homeless patrols handing
               | out blankets etc. The typical "Kibbutznik" doesn't go to
               | dig soil expecting it to be a picnic, but to satisfy a
               | bunch of other drives. At a certain age you have a ton of
               | energy, a desire to meet people, and the world you know
               | seems too small.
               | 
               | Of course that's always a good recruitment chance for
               | armies, but I was taken with William James' "Moral
               | equivalent of war", at least the abstract ideas and
               | insightful social psychology. There are thousands of
               | environmental and rebuilding projects that need doing -
               | but won't get done - because it falls outside the realm
               | of "capital".
               | 
               | The problem is when profitable interests and corporate
               | workflows intersect with altruistic labour supply. It's
               | obvious the most cynical sort of exploitation is afoot.
               | Many large organised charities suffer from being poisoned
               | that way, I've heard.
               | 
               | I guess before volunteering for an org these days one
               | should do a lot of diligence, check out who runs things,
               | who they're associated with, and whose ethics are behind
               | whet you see on face value.
        
             | rocket_surgeron wrote:
             | There are some people for who this is the opportunity of a
             | lifetime.
             | 
             | PSAR volunteers are also called Trailhead Stewards and
             | people who care a lot about the environment and the health
             | and safety of people flock to these positions. You get
             | training, accommodation that is impossible to obtain
             | otherwise, and experience. There is almost always a waiting
             | list for trailhead stewards.
             | 
             | I'm a watershed steward so I spend a ludicrous number of
             | hours poking around storm drains, parking lots, and
             | streams, writing and giving presentations, compiling
             | reports, and wrangling volunteers for cleanup and drainage
             | projects all in exchange for $0.00.
             | 
             | I like sailing and swimming and fishing and I want my local
             | rivers and bays to be clean. If I liked hiking in the
             | mountains I'd probably be a trailhead steward.
             | 
             | Here's a video with some psar volunteers: https://www.flick
             | r.com/photos/grand_canyon_nps/51252679717/i...
        
         | GavinMcG wrote:
         | These full-time positions are fairly common at National Park
         | Service (or other agency-managed) public lands, and are
         | attractive to retirees. I was a paid (and housed) intern at one
         | site, but I lived alongside three or four couples in their RVs.
         | Some used it as a way to vacation, while for others it was more
         | of a lifestyle, volunteering for four months at one location,
         | then traveling for a couple months before volunteering at
         | another location.
        
         | karaterobot wrote:
         | This feels like making something into a problem when it's not a
         | problem. These are volunteer opportunities, no money is being
         | offered and that's made very clear. People volunteer because
         | they want to do something, or feel like it needs to be done.
         | That's what volunteering is, that's the opportunity that's on
         | the table, this website lists those opportunities.
        
         | giantg2 wrote:
         | Those last 2 are just business as usual for anybody who already
         | lives in those area.
        
         | dragonwriter wrote:
         | > Quite a few of these "opportunities" are asking a LOT of
         | volunteers, implicitly asking for unpaid labor.
         | 
         | Its not implicit, "volunteer" is the word for a non-coerced
         | unpaid laborer.
        
         | efd6821b wrote:
         | Don't worry about it, son; you're not the kind that the
         | National Park Service nor Search and Rescue is looking for.
        
           | michaelmrose wrote:
           | It's asking a lot because the vast majority of folks can't
           | not work unless they also want to stop eating or become
           | homeless after the end of the season not because they
           | implicitly lack the commitment. It's also unpaid labor for a
           | government with a 6 trillion dollar budget.
           | 
           | Most of the old folks retiring at 70 aren't doing any of
           | these labor intensive affairs so its mostly a task for the
           | idle children of the upper middle class to rich. Are we
           | feting people for being born on third base again?
        
           | Rebelgecko wrote:
           | Most of the volunteer SAR people around me are still able to
           | have full time jobs.
        
             | arrakeenrevived wrote:
             | This posting isn't for SAR, which typically requires
             | specialized skills and the time commitment is different.
             | This is for _Preventative_ SAR aka PSAR, which basically
             | means just being physically present on trails to give
             | people guidance, direction, and education about how to not
             | get into dangerous situations. The time commitment for PSAR
             | can be greater.
        
         | ourmandave wrote:
         | Ah, you're looking for USA Jobs.gov.
         | 
         | https://www.usajobs.gov/
        
         | l33t7332273 wrote:
         | Isn't asking for volunteers _explicitly_ asking for unpaid
         | labor?
        
       | freeopinion wrote:
       | Worth mentioning https://justserve.org
       | 
       | Post a need or find one.
        
       | mistrial9 wrote:
       | salaried employees with health benefits and work rights are paid
       | while building that site! so you can work for free! be sure to
       | login with your cell phone.
        
       | smallerfish wrote:
       | > the country
       | 
       | Protip: the internet is available outside the US.
        
         | tptacek wrote:
         | .gov is a US domain.
        
           | oytis wrote:
           | Domain for the government of the country
        
         | lolinder wrote:
         | As a general rule, government websites tend to assume that if
         | you're visiting them you understand that all information is
         | directed at residents of the country the government is in
         | charge of.
         | 
         | This is not limited to US entities: data.gov.uk purports to
         | provide "data published by central government, local
         | authorities and public bodies" without specifying which country
         | it belongs to, yet I can't find my local information there!
        
       | dbg31415 wrote:
       | This site has issues.
       | 
       | Why can't I search by Zip Code? Or by Remote?
       | 
       | For a non-profit, and a government site, the Accessibility scores
       | are pretty low... just using WCAG scanners. This should be a
       | flawless site.
       | 
       | They also claim "Volunteer.gov is committed to being in full
       | compliance with the requirements of the American Disabilities
       | Act..." but they aren't... there are at least 10 issues per page.
       | 
       | There should be multiple languages supported.
       | 
       | There's a post... "National Park Service 2024 COUPLES ONLY
       | Opportunity" -- I'm not sure that's even legal.
       | 
       | There should be a way to post non-profits, maybe there is. Just
       | feels like any non-profit should be able to use this to post
       | needs.
       | 
       | I can't find any opportunities in Ausitn. Ok, we're just a small
       | backwoods town.
       | 
       | There aren't like "profile pages" for non-profits, or real job
       | posts... you click on a card to learn more, and all it shows you
       | is a button "apply now" -- it's missing the page that tells you
       | more about the job and more about the non-profit.
       | 
       | Ugh, anyway terrible UX. Curious how these people got funding for
       | this... No thoughts were given to SEO, or usability, or growth...
       | seems like it's destined to fail in the shape it's in.
        
         | sangnoir wrote:
         | > This should be a flawless site.
         | 
         | > Ugh, anyway terrible UX. Curious how these people got funding
         | for this... No thoughts were given to SEO, or usability, or
         | growth... seems like it's destined to fail in the shape it's
         | in.
         | 
         | Perhaps you should volunteer to fix it?
        
       | ourmandave wrote:
       | About page says sponsors are:
       | 
       | US Fish and Wildlife Service
       | 
       | Bureau of Land Management
       | 
       | US Forest Service
       | 
       | US Army Corp of Engineers
       | 
       | National Park Service
       | 
       | US Geological Survey
        
       | samcheng wrote:
       | Pretty interesting to see the visceral and divided reactions in
       | this comment thread. Some people are like, "that's crazy" and
       | others think, "I wish I had the time for that."
       | 
       | I feel this is precisely the divide that would be worth bridging
       | in the US. Spend some time knowing and loving nature, and you'll
       | realize that there are many people who would take these
       | opportunities, and they're not crazy, they just have a different
       | perspective.
       | 
       | I wonder what other opinions people have that we think are "nuts"
       | but are really just a different perspective?
        
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