[HN Gopher] Types of Conversations with Generative AI
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Types of Conversations with Generative AI
Author : adrian_mrd
Score : 83 points
Date : 2023-11-16 09:34 UTC (13 hours ago)
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| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| The more we study AI, the more we study ourselves.
| pk-protect-ai wrote:
| This is an interesting article that correlates with my
| observations. However, what worries me is the amount of
| information gathered and available to researchers about the
| users. "Another user was doing research on the company,
| Insperity. She asked multiple questions related to different
| aspects of the company."
| jechamt wrote:
| Under "Our Research" section near the top:
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| "At the end of the study, we conducted in-depth interviews with
| 14 participants."
|
| I wondered something similar while reading, but recognized the
| choices of explicit gender and detailed inquiry inclusion while
| intentionally changing the names. These pointed me to the
| likelihood this was in-house/controlled research. I believe
| that is the case from the quote above, though I don't see any
| additional details about how the study was conducted.
| pk-protect-ai wrote:
| It well might be an in-house research, but I have no doubt
| that my credit-card is linked with what I've typed in
| chatgpt. The immense amount of intel gathering capabilities
| over the chat bots is insane.
| cloudking wrote:
| I've found expanding conversations with GPT-4 are most effective
| for building code snippets. Start with asking for the basic
| functionality and continue expanding the feature set. Here's an
| example of building a simple local frontend app to interface with
| the TTS API
| https://chat.openai.com/share/8ea1e3ea-0763-4118-8c83-a2f5ea...
| anotherpaulg wrote:
| I agree that an iterative style of coding works great with GPT.
| That's generally how I code as well, whether collaborating with
| GPT or on my own. Start with "hello project" and then
| incrementally add functionality and complexity.
|
| But I have to ask, how do you update your files when iterating
| on code within the ChatGPT web UI? Do you just copy the code
| from your browser and manually find and replace the old code
| chunks in your files?
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| I ask because my open source coding assistant aider automates
| away all of that hassle. It lets GPT edit your local files
| directly. It does a bunch more beyond that, but just the
| ergonomics of letting _GPT edit your files_ is a huge win. The
| coding iterations become effortless.
|
| You might want to give it a try if you're using GPT a lot for
| coding? You do need to provide your own OpenAI API key, so you
| pay them for token usage as opposed to the all-you-can-eat
| $20/month ChatGPT web UI.
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| https://github.com/paul-gauthier/aider
| cloudking wrote:
| I copy and paste chunks for small changes, or ask for fully
| updated code and copy the whole thing if there are complex
| changes. Your project sounds very interesting! I'll give it a
| try, thank you
| kaycebasques wrote:
| Oh, cool! Very happy to see Nielsen Norman Group joining the
| convo. Their series on writing for the web is great.
| j4yav wrote:
| I always try to get to the point quickly, I feel like the longer
| the conversation gets the more it forgets earlier important
| context and I have to keep reminding it. Mainly using ChatGPT4.
| mustacheemperor wrote:
| Regarding users treating the chatbot like a search engine bar,
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| >Avoid using this type of prompt when working with AI bots like
| ChatGPT. While search engines perform best with keywords, AI bots
| need more context to understand what kind of response or output
| you're looking for.
|
| Just a few days ago in another thread I interacted with another
| user who was complaining of how ChatGPT hallucinated an incorrect
| response for the origin of the term 'bhangmeter'. I got a very
| accurate response myself[0], and noted that their shared chat was
| this 'keyword style,' staccato fragment approach[1]. I usually
| ask ChatGPT questions conversationally, and with that approach I
| got an accurate result.
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| I wonder if / suspect that one reason people seem to have such
| varyingly different impressions of overall response accuracy with
| ChatGPT comes down to different prompting approaches. If you
| don't talk to ChatGPT and just bounce keywords off it instead,
| you're not using it as designed, and it seems to result in less
| accurate responses. If you talk to ChatGPT like it's a simple and
| stupid computer search, it responds to you like one. We're kind
| of forced to personify these tools a bit if we want the best
| results.
|
| [0]https://chat.openai.com/share/66788bbc-5c2e-4e0d-9a5d-370b2c..
| . [1]https://chat.openai.com/share/8e9caf23-158b-498a-9261-7f257f
| ...
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