[HN Gopher] Demoscene (2004)
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       Demoscene (2004)
        
       Author : vvoruganti
       Score  : 78 points
       Date   : 2023-11-15 19:08 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.demoscene.info)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.demoscene.info)
        
       | smokel wrote:
       | This topic is discussed here every now and then (because it is
       | awesome).
       | 
       | Most recently at: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37927344
        
         | thibaut_barrere wrote:
         | Yes :-)
         | 
         | Some commonly cited sites:
         | 
         | - https://www.pouet.net/
         | 
         | - https://scene.org (under "changes" but files available)
         | 
         | - https://hornet.org
        
           | nvy wrote:
           | Can't forget nectarine!
           | 
           | https://scenestream.net/demovibes/
           | 
           | Soundtrack of my youth
        
             | thibaut_barrere wrote:
             | Definitely!
        
           | unixhero wrote:
           | https://demozoo.org/
        
           | Fischgericht wrote:
           | https://scenecity.tv/
           | 
           | Is live-streaming many demoparties, and outside of those, is
           | streaming demos.
        
       | sedatk wrote:
       | The page is outdated. It shows Breakpoint in the parties section,
       | which was shut down more than a decade ago. New popular parties
       | like Revision aren't mentioned. Many links are dead. Exercise
       | caution :)
        
         | codetrotter wrote:
         | One of the upsides of COVID was that a lot of demoscene parties
         | which had previously been in-person only started to live stream
         | their parties.
         | 
         | The first time I was able to "attend" Revision was by watching
         | the live stream in 2020. I had been wanting to go for many
         | years.
        
         | dang wrote:
         | What year should we put on the title above? archive.org has it
         | back to 2004:
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20041206000418/https://www.demos...
        
           | Fischgericht wrote:
           | 2004 might be correct. It mentions Breakpoint, the demo party
           | I had been the main organizer of, which last ran in 2010. So
           | any case, this site hasn't been updated since 2010.
        
             | dang wrote:
             | 2004 it is until proven otherwise. Thanks!
        
       | datameta wrote:
       | https://www.dwitter.net/ is a codegolfing community around a JS-
       | based shim with a 140 bytes limit (or 194 with some unicode
       | conversion-deconversion trickery).
        
       | pixelpoet wrote:
       | Any HN ppl wanna meet up at Revision 2024? :)
        
         | unixhero wrote:
         | Yeah that would be cool. I think we may be going
        
         | jbverschoor wrote:
         | def!
        
         | leshokunin wrote:
         | ASM!
        
       | aetherson wrote:
       | Literally (literally literally, not figuratively literally) every
       | time I see the word "demoscene" after not seeing it for a few
       | days, I think it's the name of a geologic age, like pleistocene.
        
         | joemi wrote:
         | Happens to me too sometimes, and I was even involved in the
         | scene back in the 90s.
        
         | vikingerik wrote:
         | How did those two words get mushed together for this, anyway?
         | Nobody talks about the hackingscene, or javascene, or
         | gamescene, or magicscene (the trading card game), or
         | baseballscene, or anything else like that.
        
           | datameta wrote:
           | Maybe because demo ends with a vowel and it would be hard to
           | come up with a smooth transition to a second word?
        
           | thibaut_barrere wrote:
           | I don't have a definite answer. It might be a mixture of
           | analogies to other creative "scenes" (music / cinema), it
           | might have been improved by the fact most competitions were
           | later projected on large screens etc!
        
           | ben0x539 wrote:
           | Might be my bias showing, but I just assumed that demo scene
           | stuff mainly developed in Europe, and at least in German,
           | referring to a hackingscene[1], or javascene[2], or
           | gamescene[3], or magicscene[4] wouldn't feel out of place at
           | all either.
           | 
           | [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22hackerszene%22 [2]
           | https://www.google.com/search?q=%22java-szene%22 [3]
           | https://www.google.com/search?q=%22game-szene%22 but
           | https://www.google.com/search?q=%22gaming-szene%22 probably
           | hits better [4] ok this one is a bit of a miss but still
           | https://www.google.com/search?q=%22magic-szene%22
        
         | thibaut_barrere wrote:
         | You are so close from the truth :-)
         | 
         | I wrote demos some while back (~ 1990 -> 1998 roughly).
         | 
         | They were running on the hardware of that time (including
         | specific soundcards like the Gravis UltraSound), using modified
         | DOS modes etc.
         | 
         | As years passed, it became difficult to run them, because the
         | hardware was harder to find.
         | 
         | Ultimately I wasn't able to watch my own creations anymore!
         | 
         | At some point though, I discovered DOSBox (the emulator). But
         | running it on the available hardware in say 2005 would not give
         | anything good!
         | 
         | So I had to wait more years until technology improved (good
         | enough to ensure the emulation would run fast & without too
         | many glitches, but also fast enough so that video can be
         | captured decently), until 2019 roughly, when some friend from
         | back then captured my own work on their brand new PC
         | (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVwesW3PSwg).
         | 
         | So yes, it feels like archeology to me!
        
       | anjel wrote:
       | I dream of a 21st century AI demo scene that competes to get the
       | most AI out of the least hardware just for the glory.
        
         | mpalmer wrote:
         | That's basically the AI industry already!
        
           | alfrede81 wrote:
           | In 2008 there was a Demoparty sponsored by Nvidia
           | https://demozoo.org/parties/554/
        
       | Fischgericht wrote:
       | I love the demoscene, and am very active in it.
       | 
       | But that specific web site linked here hasn't been updated in 15
       | years.
       | 
       | No clue why this got submitted...?
        
         | Rimbo wrote:
         | No idea, but I'm a simple man. I see "demoscene," I upvote.
        
         | leshokunin wrote:
         | Honestly it's probably just that demoscene minded people see
         | the word and click because of nostalgia and belonging. You'd
         | rather upvote this than an AI link or something about ventures.
         | It's part of our identity :)
         | 
         | PS: Amigaaaaaaaaa
        
       | deater wrote:
       | Second Reality for Apple II!!!!
       | http://deater.net/weave/vmwprod/second/
        
         | leshokunin wrote:
         | This is more impressive than Chaos Theory 64k demake. They
         | didn't have to go that hard!
        
       | Fischgericht wrote:
       | And in case you ever wish to experience a demo party yourself,
       | here is an always up-to-date list of upcoming parties around the
       | globe.
       | 
       | (Yes, these days there are a lot of streaming-only parties, and
       | that's very nice, but no, this is nowhere comparable of being
       | actually part of the fun on-site. So leave your sofa and go to
       | the real thing, please.)
       | 
       | https://www.demoparty.net
       | 
       | And yes, the US demoscene sadly is pretty much dead for a couple
       | of decades now (with a couple of EU sceners getting exported
       | there from time to time).
        
       | rendall wrote:
       | Ah, Demoscene, my favorite of the Ancient Greek philosophers, who
       | once wrote, 'In the realm of pixels and sound, true wisdom lies,
       | not in what is seen, but in what is rendered in the mind's eye.'
       | He was quite ahead of his time as you can see.
        
       | Jare wrote:
       | There's not much to discuss about this submission, but here's a
       | twitch link to the talk from Andreas Fredriksson today at
       | Handmade Seattle. It's about some of the approaches they took to
       | make their absolutely incredible Eon demo for original Amiga 500
       | hardware.
       | 
       | https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1978214964?t=01h31m12s
       | 
       | "Who cares about features if it runs like ass" made my day.
        
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