[HN Gopher] Tesla Cybertruck Owners Will Face Absurd Resell Pena...
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Tesla Cybertruck Owners Will Face Absurd Resell Penalties
Author : rntn
Score : 22 points
Date : 2023-11-13 18:54 UTC (4 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (gizmodo.com)
| h2odragon wrote:
| Just admit they can be remote controlled and call them home when
| the "owners" displease you.
|
| That might be a little rank even for Musk. Make it part of the
| EULA. "By opening the door you agree to ..." Add an NDA clause.
|
| If these are "bulletproof"; could someone be kidnapped by their
| car? I was gonna make a crack about keeping a window breaker
| handy in case the door locks got overridden but even that might
| not work.
| neuromanser wrote:
| Just keep a brick in the glove compartment.
| m463 wrote:
| Don't you mean a giant ball bearing? :)
| jstarfish wrote:
| > call them home when the "owners" displease you
|
| You're not being inventive enough. Drivers are not liable when
| autopilot fails. _Neither is Tesla._
|
| If it gets into an "accident" involving a body of water,
| electromechanical locks and bulletproof glass will seal your
| fate...and nobody will be held accountable.
|
| The New Model Y[andere]: You'll love it, _or else._
| Detrytus wrote:
| > The electric truck weighs 7,000 pounds according to Musk,
| making it about as heavy as a Ford F-150, but can accelerate from
| 0-60 in under 3 seconds.
|
| Finally, the most missed feature in a pick-up truck is here!
|
| > The futuristic-looking truck has a bulletproof, stainless steel
| body and is "waterproof enough" to cross rivers like a boat,
| among a long list of claims that only seem beneficial during an
| apocalypse.
|
| This, however might actually be useful, given the current
| geopolitical climate...
| ccvannorman wrote:
| Finally shaving off that precious 0.6 seconds from the 0-60
| time..
|
| * Ford F-150 0-60 Times ; 2023 Ford F-150. Raptor R SuperCrew
| (5'7.1" Bed) * 3.6 sec
| KindAndFriendly wrote:
| Talking about irrelevant stats, the Raptor can do 3.6 sec
| pulls all day long. Curious to see the Cybertrucks
| repeatability here...
| danans wrote:
| > This, however might actually be useful, given the current
| geopolitical climate...
|
| You must have missed Elon's marketing pivot a some years ago
| from libertarian tech-utopianism to libertarian tech-
| dystopianism.
| sidibe wrote:
| As an SF resident who never goes outside but reads Elon's X
| feed, you would be crazy to live here and not buy a
| bulletproof Cybertruck. I will wait until it arrives to go
| out.
| danans wrote:
| > As an SF resident who never goes outside but reads Elon's
| X feed
|
| Indeed, you sound like the target market for the
| cybertruck, but if that's what you are feeling in SF, I
| seriously doubt that vehicle will solve your issue with
| never going outside.
|
| It's quite difficult to enjoy all that the city has to
| offer from inside a vehicle, and there are certainly other
| places that can provide you in particular much more
| psychological safety than SF.
|
| Sure, you could drive it from your own guarded parking in
| SF to a destination with guarded parking in SF, but that is
| a pretty limited set of places.
| yumraj wrote:
| I'm pretty sure the person is being sarcastic..
| danans wrote:
| Ha. Good call. I see it now, although TBH in recent times
| I've heard similar sentiments expressed quite
| unsarcastically, so an "/s" would be charitable.
| JohnFen wrote:
| Just hope that it's more bulletproof than the windows are
| rockproof.
| hedora wrote:
| I was going to chime in to make fun of the paltry towing
| capacity I assumed it had, but it's rated to 14,000 lbs. That
| is significantly higher than the F-150 electric's 7700-10,000
| lbs.
| m463 wrote:
| Man: "I'm a marketing manager who lives in the suburbs
| and commutes to work on the highway. I live alone, so
| of course I needed a car that can seat 12 and is
| equipped to drive across arctic tundra...it just makes
| me feel better!" Woman: "The new Maibatsu
| Monstrosity...mine's bigger!"
|
| - GTA 3
| gamblor956 wrote:
| As previously discussed in other HN threads from last week, these
| penalties are DOA. Some of them, such as the liquidated "damages"
| clause which is clearly just a penalties clause, are straight up
| illegal. Courts will punish parties attempting to enforce a
| penalties clause, usually by requiring them to pay the opposing
| parties' legal fees.
| Arrath wrote:
| I would love to see a detailed legal breakdown and examination
| of how many of the clauses in this contract are complete,
| utter, unenforceable horseshit.
| sonicanatidae wrote:
| Talk about a big ole bag of, "yeah, you can keep this horse
| shit".
| pfannkuchen wrote:
| This is pretty obviously intended to prevent essentially scalpers
| from selling the early units for massive profit. Not sure why
| people are mad about this? South Africa man bad?
| carstenhag wrote:
| Because after paying in full for it, it's your decision what to
| do with it. Compress it into a steel cube, sell it, drive it.
| 3cats-in-a-coat wrote:
| If you jail everyone, you'd have jailed all criminals, too.
| Therefore you could say "pretty obviously intended to stop
| criminals". But punishing everyone because of a malicious
| minority defeats the point of your entire action.
|
| They could've just as easily prevented scalping by saying "you
| can sell your CyberTruck, but for not even a dollar more than
| the purchase price."
|
| Curious how that's NOT what they said, isn't it?
| jdsully wrote:
| Ford made me sign a contract similar to this when I bought a
| Bronco sport. I was annoyed the dealer sprung it on me at the
| very end when I was getting the keys, but didn't plan to resell
| in the first year anyways.
| fabiensanglard wrote:
| Is that even legal, to ask you to sign that after you paid for
| it? Or was it before?
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| [dupe]
|
| More discussion over here:
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38237287
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38236701
| haliskerbas wrote:
| And when the pieces don't fit together, no one faces a penalty.
|
| https://insideevs.com/news/694929/tesla-cybertruck-matte-bla...
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