[HN Gopher] Apple agrees to $25M settlement with US over hiring ...
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Apple agrees to $25M settlement with US over hiring of immigrants
Author : mraza007
Score : 38 points
Date : 2023-11-11 18:52 UTC (4 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.reuters.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.reuters.com)
| a-r-t wrote:
| Banana for scale: Apple makes that much in revenue in about 30
| minutes.
| tempodox wrote:
| My thought exactly. That number is way below a rounding error.
| FirmwareBurner wrote:
| Imagine the parking ticket for you would be a penny. It would
| be more profitable to park illegally than to pay for the
| parking fees, which is why parking fines are greater than the
| parking fee. Why do corporations have fines so low?
| mmmmmbop wrote:
| It's more like $50 if we assume the net hourly rate of a
| SWE to be $100. That's higher than the usual parking ticket
| of ~$15.
| edgyquant wrote:
| In Seattle they are about $50
| mavelikara wrote:
| Discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38224950
| riku_iki wrote:
| Can there be class action case by all who were potentially
| discriminated by these hiring practices?
| candyman wrote:
| Would Apple even notice something so small?
| mschild wrote:
| No. That's about 0.006% of their yearly revenue. To put that
| into perspective, if you earn 100k salary, that'd be 600 bucks.
| yeknoda wrote:
| 6
| nilsherzig wrote:
| More like 6 USD, or am I missing something
| SuperNinKenDo wrote:
| That amount is an embarrassing joke. What's going on that's
| causing these appallingly low penalties for companies? Is it just
| that the legislation was written without these kinds of megacorps
| in mind? Is it trepidation on the part of regulators? Seriously,
| what is going on here?
| zyang wrote:
| This is just a driveby legal shakedown. The requirement for
| PERM/greencard application is to prove there was sufficient
| effort to hire an US citizen first. The standard practice is post
| a ad matching the applicants qualification on local papers first.
| I went through the process twice at two different companies since
| I left the first one before PERM was completed. Apple just
| happened to be a juice target here. The real culprit is the
| backward immigration system designed to pacify voters.
| next_xibalba wrote:
| > The real culprit is the backward immigration system designed
| to pacify voters.
|
| Shouldn't any immigration system actualize the will of the
| voters?
| thatfrenchguy wrote:
| The perm process is absurdly stupid, people you put those <<
| ads >> for are already working there on a H1B/L1, no company
| would decide to hire anyone else for their position.
| rayiner wrote:
| [delayed]
| edgyquant wrote:
| Great. Now make this an actually punitive amount and apply it to
| all of the big tech companies (who have obviously been doing this
| for years) and you may start to actually fix this problem. A
| hundred thousand CS graduates a year in this country and yet the
| biggest companies claim they can't find workers so hire people
| from overseas and pay them some of the highest entry level wages
| in the nation. I call bullshit, it's clearly discrimination
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