[HN Gopher] Dispute in the CNCF: Israelis cancel participation i...
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Dispute in the CNCF: Israelis cancel participation in Kubecon
Author : thenaturalist
Score : 8 points
Date : 2023-11-08 20:15 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.heise.de)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.heise.de)
| AdamJacobMuller wrote:
| While i'm generally not a huge fan of organizations taking
| unrelated political stands there is important context here:
|
| > In the past, the CNCF has also clearly positioned itself on
| other socio-political issues.
|
| The devil is in the details on something like this though and
| this being a german language article i'm reading via google
| translate doesn't help.
|
| > The CNCF, on the other hand, has so far been silent on the
| terrorist attacks by Hamas.
|
| If that's entirely accurate and CNCF is refusing to condem the
| actions of Hamas on 10/7 that's pretty terrible and I respect the
| Israeli members for refusing to attend (but I find it hard to
| believe). If the Israeli CNCF members are asking CNCF to release
| a statement saying Israel should do whatever it wants to Gaza
| with no thought for civilians, well, CNCF is quite obviously in
| the right for refusing to release something like that, but again,
| I doubt that's what is happening and the truth is somewhere in
| the middle.
| wmf wrote:
| If you condemn Hamas you're "anti-Palestine" but if you don't
| you're "anti-Semitic". If you say "it's complicated" you're
| also canceled. Truly the only winning move is not to play.
| gkfasdfasdf wrote:
| > If you condemn Hamas you're "anti-Palestine"
|
| This is the first time I'm hearing that sentiment. Folks who
| are loudly shouting "Free Palestine" are also condemning
| Hamas.
| tekla wrote:
| Bullshit. I've been to several of these protests, and I saw
| plenty of people holding signs indicating that any
| Palestinian action was justified because of Israel, pretty
| clearly being okay with the initial attacks.
| nemothekid wrote:
| Piers Morgan has spent roughly a month talking to various
| pro-Palestine and pro-Israeli pundits. Each one has
| loudly condemned Hamas; but many pro-Israeli pundits have
| refused to even entertain the thought that the Israeli
| government may be wrong in their response. I know some 19
| year old at a protest makes a convenient boogeyman, but
| be real here, a peon at a protest holds no power. That
| said "what initial attacks" are you referrering to? Why
| is retaliation after roughly decades Israeli occupation
| referred to as an "initial" attack.
| AdamJacobMuller wrote:
| This doesn't dispute that there are people out there,
| people who are supporters of Palestine who think that
| what happened on 10/7 was somehow justified. Just because
| Piers Morgan didn't interview them doesn't mean they
| don't exist.
|
| There are also plenty of pro-Palestine people who
| understand that Hamas is just as much of an enemy to
| Palestine as it is to Israel.
| Georgelemental wrote:
| Well, Hamas members at least would generally claim this. So
| the set of people isn't zero.
| AdamJacobMuller wrote:
| I've long since passed the point of caring if someone wanted
| to "cancel" me (whatever that might mean). I will speak my
| mind. I've also long since passed the point of thinking it's
| going to do anything, but, I'll play anyway.
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