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Show HN: Ladder, open source alternative to 12ft.io and 1ft.io
Hey there I made a opensource alternative for these services.
Although these workedd very well, I was not so confident what they
do. So I made my own and opensourced it. It is written in Golang
and is fully customizable.
Author : 2cpu1container
Score : 277 points
Date : 2023-11-06 12:04 UTC (8 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (github.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
| SigmundurM wrote:
| You mention 13ft as another open source inspiration. How is
| Ladder improving on what 13ft does?
| 2cpu1container wrote:
| I did try 13ft. But it misses several points.
|
| The ladder applies custom rules to inject code. It basically
| modifies the origin website to remove the Paywall. It rewrites
| (most of) the links and assets in the origins HTML to avoid
| CORS Errors by routing thru the local proxy.
|
| The ladder uses Golangs fiber/fasthttp, which is significantly
| faster than Python (biased opinion) .
|
| Several small features like basic auth ...
| withinboredom wrote:
| > The ladder uses Golangs fiber/fasthttp, which is
| significantly faster than Python
|
| I have a feeling that this performance difference is
| practically imperceptible to regular humans. It's like
| optimizing CPU performance when the bottleneck is the
| database.
| ComputerGuru wrote:
| Not for any publicly hosted instance, it's not. We're not
| talking about the time it takes to perform one request but
| the scalability it affords a small vm to handle so many
| requests in parallel when it is being used by the general
| public.
| oh_sigh wrote:
| If the paywall is implemented in client code, then usually
| just disabling javascript for the site is enough to let you
| view it. If it is implemented server side, then there usually
| isn't a way around it without an account.
| roydivision wrote:
| Is it just me or has 12ft become less and less effective? I
| rarely get through with it these days.
| user_7832 wrote:
| Their policies have apparently... changed. They accept
| donations to not have your website bypassed. Archive.org is
| much better.
|
| Edit: apparently it is down now.
|
| 402: PAYMENT_REQUIRED Code: DEPLOYMENT_DISABLED ID:
| fra1::8wkv2-1699275385535-39dedae23d6a
| jdiff wrote:
| Is it donations they accept or legal threats?
| ProllyInfamous wrote:
| Yes.
| i67vw3 wrote:
| Archive.today never fails compared to Archive.org or various
| browser extensions
|
| To remove paywalls 12ft<Archive.org<Archive.today is my
| opinion.
| giancarlostoro wrote:
| For some reason all the alternative "archive.XYZXDHWIQHDQ"
| type of sites always give me a captcha page, and I am never
| able to proceed. I'm assuming its to do with the cloudflare
| DNS, well if they don't care to fix it on their end, I
| don't care to use their service.
| i67vw3 wrote:
| There is a bit of 'tussle' going on between the two of
| them for quite a few years as you pointed out.
|
| https://x.com/archiveis/status/1018691421182791680?s=20
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36971650
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828702
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36971552
| flutas wrote:
| IIRC:
|
| It's kind of a "everybody sucks" situation and there's no
| real winners.
|
| Archive.[whatever] setup a server system to give you
| access from a country not your own, so that abusers have
| a harder time of archiving illegal content, then
| instantly reporting it to get the entire archive taken
| down. He uses EDNS to do this, but CF doesn't provide
| EDNS since it's a privacy issue to them.
|
| So archive.[whatever] doesn't work for CF DNS because he
| doesn't want to risk bad actors being able to take down
| the archive.
|
| Sensible reasons on both sides, especially for a service
| like archive.[whatever], and the real losers in this
| situation are the users.
| PawgerZ wrote:
| Copying my previous comment over because I found a fix
| that works for me:
|
| There's some issue with DNS over HTTPS, so you have to
| whitelist their sites in your settings, or turn off DNS
| over HTTPS (which I don't recommend).
|
| To whitelist, on Firefox: Hamburger menu > settings >
| privacy and security > DNS over HTTPS > Manage exceptions
| > Add "archive.is", "archive.ph", and "archive.today"
| ryeights wrote:
| For those on mobile it was the opposite, since the archive
| sites only show you the desktop sites
| gnicholas wrote:
| Does reader mode work on archive sites?
| ams92 wrote:
| I've rarely found it to be able to skip a paywall, I gave up
| after trying a few times.
| snarkyturtle wrote:
| Before they went down it seemed that there were many big
| publishers who got the owner to disable it for their sites.
| Either that or the sites learned to actually not send their
| articles unless the user is logged in (and didn't care about
| googlebot not scanning it).
|
| It was just an effective way to get through substack/medium in
| my experience.
| fader wrote:
| For folks like me who have no idea what 12ft.io or 1ft.io are,
| they appear to be services for bypassing paywalls on websites.
| alberto_ol wrote:
| Previous dicussions of the service on HN:
|
| https://hn.algolia.com/?q=12ft.io
| 2cpu1container wrote:
| Those were Paywall bypassing tools. 12ft.io was shut down one
| week ago and 1ft.io still works.
|
| But I feel a bit unconfident to let someone inject code to
| sites i view.
| ktpsns wrote:
| I got the feeling that these features should be part of a browser
| extension the same way as there are AdBlock extensions. I guess
| the reason it is not is "personal preference" of the author, or
| is there some technical reason?
| bilekas wrote:
| I don't know for sure, but I would imagine there are more
| severe actions taken against circumventing paid material
| (content behind a paywall) than there is for free content
| supplemented by advertisements..
|
| Edit : The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) prohibits
| circumventing an effective technological means of control that
| restricts access to a copyrighted work. I guess that would
| apply here.
| mckirk wrote:
| Given how liberally the DMCA is applied, you definitely don't
| want to be on the wrong side of that.
|
| I remember some guy that wrote a WoW bot and got sued using
| the DMCA, with the argument that his bot was circumventing
| the anti-cheat and the anti-cheat could be seen as a
| 'mechanism protecting copyrighted material', because it was
| safeguarding access to the game servers, the servers were
| generating parts of the game world (such as sounds)
| dynamically, and those were under copyright... Wild stuff.
| judge2020 wrote:
| As far a I know section 1201 has never been prosecuted.
| Distribution of the copyrighted material is what's focused
| on.
| mckirk wrote:
| This seems a good summary of the case I was talking
| about:
|
| https://massivelyop.com/2020/02/28/lawful-neutral-
| cheating-c...
| kkzz99 wrote:
| It happened to Honorbuddy, a very advanced bot for World Of
| Warcraft made by a German company. The argument in relation
| to DMCA was that the bot was circumventing warden, the
| games anti-cheat system. The legal battle was long and they
| ultimately had to strip many features of the bot, until the
| company went under.
| nottheengineer wrote:
| Good old section 1201. The EFF has been fighting it for a
| while, but hasn't had much success unfortunately.
| nerdbert wrote:
| Isn't anything that can be circumvented ineffective?
|
| Or, looking at it the other way, if you put a small sticker
| that says "do not do X" and even one person follows that,
| isn't that therefore an "effective" method?
| Aaargh20318 wrote:
| > The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) prohibits
| circumventing an effective technological means of control
| that restricts access to a copyrighted work. I guess that
| would apply here.
|
| It doesn't if you're not in the US.
| zeusk wrote:
| Kim Dotcom believed so too, didn't fare too well.
| overtomanu wrote:
| there is below extension for this purpose which I know of, I
| think there can be many more if we search for them
|
| chrome and firefox extension for removing paywall:
| https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome
| user764743 wrote:
| This extension is asking for a lot of permissions it
| shouldn't ask for
|
| If you want an alternative that only requests permissions for
| sites with paywalls, this one is better:
| https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-firefox-
| clea...
| sva_ wrote:
| > these features should be part of a browser extension
|
| You mean like Bypass Paywall Clean?
|
| https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-chrome-clean
| johnmaguire wrote:
| Is there a Firefox version?
| sva_ wrote:
| https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-firefox-
| clea...
|
| It used to be in mozillas addon store, but they removed it,
| so have to install via dev mode
| m-p-3 wrote:
| Or you can load this uBO filterlist, which should
| basically do the same thing as the extension
| https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-clean-
| filters/-/raw/main/bpc-paywall-filter.txt
| bluish29 wrote:
| That's why I like reading HN comments. Thanks for that
| filter link
| penguin_booze wrote:
| No need for dev mode - signed XPIs are avaiable from
| releases: https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-
| paywalls-firefox-clea....
| sva_ wrote:
| Ah you're right, I confused it with Chrome
| xipho wrote:
| You don't even need to install it, just add it as an import
| line to UO, Google how. Game changing.
| xaellison wrote:
| What's UO? This would've been a great comment with a
| little more info :)
| rustyminnow wrote:
| https://ublockorigin.com/
|
| After install go to "Filter Lists" > Import ... > and add
| the url of the "list"... which is actually from a
| different repo: https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-
| paywalls-clean-filter...
|
| Note: this apparently works for fewer sites than the
| linked extension.
| gzer0 wrote:
| Thank you for the insight. I usually hesitate to install
| add-ons, but now I can avoid that step entirely based on
| your advice.
| sva_ wrote:
| > Note: this apparently works for fewer sites than the
| linked extension.
|
| Still, this is great to know because it can then be used
| on Firefox mobile.
| Beijinger wrote:
| Does not work so well anymore. Better use a bookmarklet
|
| javascript:location.href='https://archive.is/?run=1&url=%27+e
| ncodeURIComponent(documen...
| NelsonMinar wrote:
| This works quite well and probably covers 90% of my needs.
| For the other 10% I still use archive.today or 12ft (RIP).
|
| It's a shame Google won't let this addon be in the store.
| some1else wrote:
| Relevant: 12ft.io was banned by Vercel, taking down the
| developer's entire account with multiple other hosted projects &
| domains: https://twitter.com/thmsmlr/status/1718663563353755982
|
| Edit: Access to other projects & domains was apparently restored
| some time after:
| https://twitter.com/thmsmlr/status/1719480558932148272
| abofh wrote:
| Lovely, the Google classic "ban the world" approach -- I've
| been desperately trying to move my client off of vercel, this
| might just be the gasoline.
| rgrieselhuber wrote:
| Aside from this (which is already very shitty and would cause
| the same response in me) what are the issues you're running
| into with Vercel?
| abofh wrote:
| - Support is failing us - I want my team to use you for
| vercel support, but it isn't there. - Support is failing
| our customers - when you fail, I end up reverse-depending
| your repo to tell us why it's failing -- just give us a
| clear answer, we all move away happy, bullshit and I go to
| lambda where I just accept it. - EOD: Vercel makes
| engineers happy to bullshit, but gives operations teams
| nothing acceptable - I want a deliverable product.
| judge2020 wrote:
| FYI you have to use two line breaks to start a new line
| with (HN's) Markdown.
| Rauchg wrote:
| Would love to dig into your support issues. Let me know:
| rauchg@vercel.com
| abofh wrote:
| And if the support team had done so, I'd have nothing to
| converse about :)
|
| After digging upwards, additional support seems like an
| option delivered too late, and too outside of 'proper'
| channels - if you want a sanitized rant I can probably
| deliver it tomorrow, but too-little too-late is where
| vercel has landed in the operations team.
| canadianfella wrote:
| Why desperately?
| threatofrain wrote:
| One might consider Cloudflare as a very nice competitor to
| Vercel in terms of DX, although I suspect all companies use a
| ban the world approach, even banks.
| MaKey wrote:
| Not the best time to recommend Cloudflare.
| judge2020 wrote:
| Maybe, but they've kept customers informed throughout the
| entire outage.
| https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/hm7491k53ppg
| JCharante wrote:
| They just had a big outage. What's the probability of
| having another so soon?
| orphea wrote:
| If outages don't depend on each other, the probability is
| the same.
| explaininjs wrote:
| Why would you assume independence? I'd expect an outage
| to put people "on edge" for a period of time following
| the outage, during which changes are scrutinized to a
| higher degree, and/or a greater engineering focus/budget
| is dedicated to reliability to reflect the changed
| business/image requirements.
| benjaminwootton wrote:
| I followed this drama on Twitter. The author was breaking the
| terms of service and creating DMCA support burden for Vercel.
| They had proactively been in touch with him a few times to
| reach a solution.
|
| I think it's quite reasonable that they blocked the account
| rather than the project. You wouldn't have got that level of
| service from big tech.
| ComputerGuru wrote:
| > I think it's quite reasonable that they blocked the
| account rather than the project.
|
| I'm just responding to your last sentence: why would you go
| out of your way to say it is _reasonable_ to block the
| account rather than the project?
|
| I can understand locking the account just as the "lazy
| default" but I would not call it in any way reasonable -
| but you did, so I'm curious.
|
| If _that_ is reasonable, what would you consider _un_
| reasonable?
|
| (Because to me, the obviously _reasonable_ thing to do
| would be to block the project and not his entire account.)
| ensignavenger wrote:
| Care to provide any links? The Twitter claim above is that
| their was no communication and the ban occurred on a
| Friday.
| lxe wrote:
| Very disappointing that this was the path Vercel chose to
| take. This is something I would expect from Google or Amazon,
| but not a developer darling like Vercel. Seems like all
| companies shed their values is service of growth and
| capitalism at some point or another. A shame.
| paulgb wrote:
| Taking down all his projects (not just 12ft) is heavy-handed,
| but otherwise Guillermo's response in that thread seems pretty
| reasonable to me:
|
| > Hey Thomas. Your paywall-bypassing site broke our ToS and
| created hundreds of hours of support time spent on all the
| outreach from the impacted businesses.
|
| > Our support team reached out to you on Oct 14th to let you
| know this was unsustainable and to try to work with you.
| hombre_fatal wrote:
| The 12ft guy doesn't look so great in that thread. He admits
| to ignoring the email (gosh I was busy mmkay?) and then
| argues that Vercel is lying about the extra work they had to
| do.
| flutas wrote:
| > gosh I was busy mmkay?
|
| Mischaracterization much? He was on Vacation.
|
| How many of us read every email for personal projects that
| comes in when you're half way across the world and supposed
| to be relaxing.
| paulgb wrote:
| Sure, but if you go on vacation and don't check your
| email for two weeks, you can't really claim "no warning".
| If two weeks isn't sufficient notice because of vacation
| it's fine to say so, but it's not the same thing as "no
| warning" just because you're not checking email.
| stronglikedan wrote:
| To take it even further, if you're a one man operation,
| not checking emails regarding your operation for two
| weeks is pure negligence, vacation or not.
| jdminhbg wrote:
| I might ignore personal project emails while I'm on
| vacation, but I also won't complain if one of those
| emails says my billing method is out of date and I come
| home and it's been turned off.
| alwayslikethis wrote:
| Shows the importance of controlling your own critical
| infrastructure, or at least not being dependent for critical
| functions. Other examples include Github and Discord, both
| having shown the tendency do arbitarily ban users with little
| recourse.
| treyd wrote:
| I don't know why anyone trusted Vercel in the first place. The
| vibes of VC money funding an unsustainable offering for a
| relatively niche market are so strong, it doesn't make any
| sense.
| janejeon wrote:
| Really dummy question: how do services like this work? As in, how
| do they bypass these paywalls?
|
| The obvious thing is to mock Googlebot, but site owners can check
| that the request isn't coming from a Google-published IP and see
| that it's a fake, right?
| narinxas wrote:
| > site owners can check that the request isn't coming from a
| Google-published IP and see that it's a fake, right?
|
| just because they can doesn't mean they will... also most "site
| owners" are (by this point) a completely different people than
| "site operators" (who I take to be the 'engineers' who indeed
| can check this IP things)
| calflegal wrote:
| related: If this is how they work, why doesn't google offer a
| private service to allow publishers to have content indexed
| while still protected?
| matsemann wrote:
| It used to be against guidelines to serve different content
| to google vs what users would see. Not sure if still the
| case, but I don't think it's in google's interest to give a
| result that the user actually can't access.
| ComputerGuru wrote:
| I'm not aware that this policy has changed. What has
| changed is that Google will rank results it can't
| (officially) index without showing their content. I'm
| guessing they _do_ shadow index them but use the whole "if
| you outwardly can't tell they did then it's as if they
| didn't" C++ compilers use to get away with insane
| optimizations.
| Fnoord wrote:
| Some possible clues:
|
| > https://github.com/kubero-dev/ladder#environment-variables
|
| > USER_AGENT User agent to emulate Mozilla/5.0 (compatible;
| Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)
|
| > X_FORWARDED_FOR IP forwarder address 66.249.66.1
|
| > RULESET URL to a ruleset file
| https://raw.githubusercontent.com/kubero-dev/ladder/main/rul...
| or /path/to/my/rules.yaml
| janejeon wrote:
| Oh wow... I'm surprised that's enough. When I was researching
| scraping protection bypass, you had to do some real crazy
| stuff with the browser instance + using residential IPs at a
| minimum...
| 2cpu1container wrote:
| Thats not the full story. It works on many sites, but some
| (ft.com as an example) have more severe countermeasures to
| bypass the paywall. Therefore the ladders modifies the
| served HTML from origin to remove such.
|
| Those rules still need to be build up. (by me or the OS-
| community)
| ComputerGuru wrote:
| I don't know of _any_ off-the-shelf product that respects
| X_FORWARDED_FOR unless the current request ip originates from
| a whitelisted (or lan) address.
| pacifika wrote:
| Open source makes it easy for the cat in the cat mouse game,
| right?
| lucideer wrote:
| There's no real cat & mouse game here (yet*) - sites don't do
| anything to mitigate this. Sites deliberately make their
| content available to robots to gain SEO traction: they're left
| with the choice of allowing this kind of bypass or hurting
| their own SEO.
|
| * I say "yet" because there could conceivably be ways to
| mitigate this, but afaik most would involve individual
| deals/contracts between every search engine & every
| subscription website - Google's monopoly simplifies this
| somewhat, but there's not much of an incentive from Google's
| perpsective to facilitate this at any scale.
| tiagod wrote:
| Google publishes IP ranges for GoogleBot. You can also
| reverse-lookup the request IP address - the resolved domain
| should in turn resolve to the original address.
| ForkMeOnTinder wrote:
| Does anyone else remember 10 years ago when Google would
| penalize sites for serving different content to GoogleBot
| than to normal users? Those were the days.
| fyzix wrote:
| I'm very new to this kind of service, but do you have to write
| your own rulesets for each site you want to bypass? The repo
| doesn't seem to include much...
| 2cpu1container wrote:
| Yes, the one i provide is still pretty empty yet. I plan to
| build one that can be used as a starting point or as a default.
| szaboat wrote:
| Not relevant to the project but I usually check for earlier
| versions of the paywalled pages in the wayback machine (~75%
| success). I felt bad using these services (paywall removers), and
| just feeling a bit better checking in archive.org.
| jwmoz wrote:
| 12ft was really good!
| 2cpu1container wrote:
| In deed it was. Sad it's gone.
|
| One single downside was the intransparency. It was not clear
| which code was added or removed on the site you where looking
| at.
| KoftaBob wrote:
| Create a browser book mark and set this as the URL of the
| bookmark:
|
| javascript:window.location.href="https://archive.is/latest/"+loca
| tion.href
|
| It will usually open up the archived version of article without
| the paywall.
| gumby wrote:
| The README says "The author does not endorse or encourage any
| unethical or illegal activity."
|
| Is it actually illegal anywhere to bypass a paywall?
| 2cpu1container wrote:
| Not sure about the paywalls. But it might be used for "drive by
| attacks" or phishing.
| JustinGoldberg9 wrote:
| I still miss outline.com
|
| I use txtify.it
| donohoe wrote:
| I use services like this as I often skip news site paywalls
| because I just can't afford, nor is it practical, to have so many
| subscriptions.
|
| That said, I work in news media (and have been involved in
| building paywalls at different orgs - NYT and New Yorker). I know
| how money for these directly support journalism - salaries and
| the costs with associated with any story.
|
| If you are skipping paywalls a lot, I would encourage you to pay
| for a subscription to at least one or two news sites you respect
| - bonus points if its a small or medium local newsroom that
| benefits!
|
| For me that has been; NYTimes, New Yorker, Wired, Teen Vogue, and
| my wife's hometown paper in Illinois.
| mejthemage wrote:
| There's a huge need for subscription bundles. I'd gladly pay
| $20/mo for access to a bunch of big names, even if I'm limited
| to like 60 articles per month combined across those sources.
|
| Instead I just don't pay anyone, turn back when I encounter a
| paywall and look for someone's summary if I'm really
| interested.
| orpheansodality wrote:
| Isn't that the value-prop of Apple News?
| QkPrsMizkYvt wrote:
| There used to be an app called scroll
| (https://twitter.com/tryscroll?lang=en), which got bought by
| Twitter, which is now part of subscription, but only for the
| top articles. Informed.so is doing something similar but
| different: https://www.informed.so/
|
| The problem creating such a service is that most media houses
| believe that their content is the best thing since sliced
| bread and thus they often don't want to partner. Even though
| most of their content isn't that unique. Of course, some
| publications do have unique content, e.g. nyt, bloomberg.
|
| I could see artifact being an interesting company to tackle
| this though (https://artifact.news/). They are already
| sending traffic to news sites and only serving what the user
| wants. If they now let me bypass paywalls for $20 that would
| be nice.
| stetrain wrote:
| My personal experience with this has been that paying for a
| subscription still gets me inundated with ads and marketing
| (often more now that I'm on their official mailing list), is
| still inconvenient since I may not be logged in to every news
| site on every device where I may follow an article link, and
| leaves me to fight through dark patterns to unsubscribe, since
| a button to allow you to cancel online is clearly dark magic
| that has not yet been invented.
|
| I do wish there was a better way for me to share an account
| across multiple news sites that let me properly pay for good
| journalism without these issues. I do subscribe to a very local
| news source that seems to handle this a lot better, but they
| also don't paywall (most) of their primary content.
|
| In the meantime I do find it strange that so many sites wish to
| gain the advantage of advertising that they have put up an
| article on the web, without actually providing that article. I
| have no issue with paid content, but when that content gets
| listed in search engine results and social media links like a
| web page, but clicking on it does not behave like a web page,
| It feels something feels like something has broken from the
| idea of the linkable World Wide Web.
| rounakdatta wrote:
| Given a very different paywall model for Substack, what exactly
| would work for bypassing their paywalls?
|
| Wouldn't we always require a paid account to cache the HTML
| through (the SciHub model)?
| arendtio wrote:
| Sounds great, not just for paywalls, but for removing CORS as
| well:
|
| > Remove CORS headers from responses, assets, and images ...
| j-a-a-p wrote:
| In the README there is a WHY paragraph:
|
| > _Freedom of information is an essential pillar of democracy and
| informed decision-making. While media organizations have
| legitimate financial interests, it is crucial to strike a balance
| between profitability and the public 's right to access
| information. The proliferation of paywalls raises concerns about
| the erosion of this fundamental freedom, and it is imperative for
| society to find innovative ways to preserve access to vital
| information without compromising the sustainability of
| journalism._
| j-a-a-p wrote:
| For me this is grotesque. Democracy is in dispair so is
| journalism. What exactly is this software doing to support
| journalism or democracy?
| 2cpu1container wrote:
| We live in a world, where we have more misinformation and
| poor journalism every day, and less money in the pockets of
| the people to afford paying for good journalism. So this
| might start a more open discussion on how to finance
| journalism. And while discussions are still going on, people
| can inform themselves with good journalism, which supports
| the democracy.
| boplicity wrote:
| Slightly edited "Why":
|
| Access to private property is an essential pillar of democracy
| and the safe proliferation of ideas. While property owners have
| legitimate financial interests, it is crucial to strike a balance
| between property and the public's right to access property. The
| proliferation of locks on doors raises concerns about the erosion
| of this fundamental freedom, and it is imperative for society to
| find innovative ways to preserve access to people's homes and
| workspaces without compromising the sustainability of property
| ownership.. In a world where property should be shared and not
| commodified, locks should be critically examined to ensure that
| they do not undermine the principles of an open and informed
| society.
| benatkin wrote:
| This reminds me of the thread when 12ft was taken down.
|
| Does anyone have any insight into how it would take Vercel
| hundreds of hours of support time?
| https://twitter.com/rauchg/status/1718680650067460138
| someotherperson wrote:
| My assumption here is that affected websites sent multiple,
| persistent support tickets and engaged in back and forth
| communication, as well as updates to the client, support team
| contacting engineering/legal/management/meetings on how to deal
| with 12ft.
| TanguyN wrote:
| I have noticed that on a lot of websites, if you stop the page
| loading at just the right moment (you have to be quick), the
| whole content will display without the paywall. And that's
| without any external tools. These kinds of tools seem, of course,
| much more convenient.
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