[HN Gopher] Cool Continuum: Make Your Mark in the Arts
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Cool Continuum: Make Your Mark in the Arts
Author : tonguetrainer
Score : 12 points
Date : 2023-11-06 09:35 UTC (11 hours ago)
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| reidjs wrote:
| I don't like the idea proposed in this article of labelling
| artists. Art is too subjective to adhere to these labels. It also
| pushes a 'us/them' narrative, "The Rest of Us." For better or
| worse, artists are just regular people. Maybe applying this to
| pieces of art, like a song, painting, essay, play, video game,
| etc, could work.
| mewse-hn wrote:
| The Cool Continuum is a perspective shift, a new lens by which to
| study art and the artists that make it. Its strength lies in its
| subjectivity, which means you are invited to contribute your
| perspective to shape our collective understanding of what it
| takes to make art.
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| in other words: i'm spinning the subjectivity and arbitrariness
| of this crap as a strength not a weakness. this whole article co-
| written by chatgpt. thanks but no thanks
| itronitron wrote:
| But they assigned numbers to the levels, so it isn't _entirely_
| subjective.
| tonguetrainer wrote:
| Hi, author and creator here. The Cool Continuum shouldn't be
| the final word on whether, for example, Billy Idol is a Rebel
| or an Innovator. But I think ChatGPT gives the most unbiased
| perspective. I also leaned on ChatGPT to analyze artists like
| Beyonce, who I know nothing about (but I was curious where she
| fit on the continuum).
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| ChatGPT provided the "even hand" to be able to evaluate fairly,
| and more broadly, in less time. I think it's an ideal project
| for AI assistance.
| karaterobot wrote:
| I'm not sure how I'd use this. I think of someone like Bob Dylan,
| who has arguably fit into all of those categories at various
| points in his career. Where would I put him? Does it just depend
| on what era you're talking about? But there's no concept of
| evolution within that model, no way to use it to predict whether
| someone will change categories, or how that could be done.
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| I'm also not sure what "cool" has to do with artistic
| contributions. Many great artists aren't cool, as I understand
| the word, and many cool people aren't artists, as I understand
| the word. And the thing it's tracking doesn't seem to be
| coolness, but artistic... prominence... or something along those
| lines.
|
| Finally, it's not a continuum, it's a set of discrete categories.
| There's nothing in that model that talks about (for example)
| being mostly a rebel, shading a little bit into innovator. So the
| name is confusing as well.
| tonguetrainer wrote:
| There's a "natural state" where an artist's dominant traits
| stand out and their impact is most felt. Frank Black of the
| Pixies is one example of an artist who started as a Level 4
| Innovator but settled into being an Artisan later in his solo
| career. But ChatGPT and I both agreed he's primarily an
| innovator. That's where his impact is felt most, is his work
| with the Pixies.
| unmotivated-hmn wrote:
| How does this crap make its way to the front page?
| iainctduncan wrote:
| +100 to that, is this a high school newspaper??
| itronitron wrote:
| This looks more like a dartboard than a continuum.
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