[HN Gopher] StackStorm - IFTTT for Ops
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StackStorm - IFTTT for Ops
Author : alexzeitler
Score : 110 points
Date : 2023-11-05 09:32 UTC (13 hours ago)
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| janpio wrote:
| The GitHub "content pack" seems pretty neat and gives me ideas
| what this could be used for: https://github.com/StackStorm-
| Exchange/stackstorm-github
| kinow wrote:
| It is one of the few workflow managers that support cyclic graphs
| (e.g. ecflow, cylc, prefect, covalent more or less. ), instead of
| working only with DAGs like Airflow.
|
| It is a feature common for weather and climate workflows, and I
| think other HPC and machine learning workflows too.
|
| https://kinoshita.eti.br/2021/10/01/cyclic-workflows-with-cy...
| gtirloni wrote:
| Like Argo Workflows?
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| https://github.com/argoproj/argo-workflows
| spandextwins wrote:
| This looks really neat, going to try it out. Lots of
| integrations, that's key.
| buro9 wrote:
| this looks ace, so a serious question: is it widely used?
|
| this is the first I've seen of it (seems true of other people
| commenting too), but it looks like there's some strong history
| (several acquisitions, then joined Linux Foundation in 2019)...
| so why hasn't it achieved greater visibility?
|
| those questions are not asked to rain on someone's parade, but
| because going all-in on automation and workflow is a gamble as to
| whether that thing that glue is going to stick around (Linux
| Foundation suggests yes), and also is a skill that people want to
| learn and use (being widely adopted and something people can
| apply to other companies and roles would make this so, hence the
| questions)
| wahnfrieden wrote:
| it's been around a long time with serious usage, hn frontpage
| just doesn't typically provide a thorough market analysis
| perspective and indeed has many non-expert (in terms of gained
| familiarity with a correctly broad view of our field) members.
| still doesn't mean it's necessarily a great choice though
| Reventlov wrote:
| > this looks ace, so a serious question: is it widely used?
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| I know some french cloud provider that uses it, and... I'm not
| sure they're happy with it. Issues with YAQL, a lot of weird
| bugs. They mentioned Temporal looking much cleaner.
| pmetrix wrote:
| They have a list of ADOPTERS.md here:
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| https://github.com/StackStorm/st2/blob/master/ADOPTERS.md
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| which mentions Adobe, DigitalOcean, Fastly, HP, Verizon and a
| few more among others already mentioned on the website.
| j45 wrote:
| If you scroll down it's listed right there: Cisco, NASA,
| Netflix, Pearson
|
| It feels a little different than n8n but I can't tell the
| differences at first glance.
| iodbh wrote:
| Love StackStorm ! I had never heard of it before my employer
| adopted it, despite having looked for exactly what it provides
| before.
|
| Writing integrations is very easy, which makes it a great "hub"
| where events from different sources can be collected and watched,
| while miscellaneous tooling can be gathered behind the same UI
| and auth. My team is adopting it big time.
|
| It's not without warts and there are alternatives better suited
| for other environments, but I still believe StackStorm deserves
| more attention than it has received !
| alberth wrote:
| Interesting to see Netflix featured both on StackStorm &
| https://temporal.io/ frontpages.
| Maxious wrote:
| Netflix case study is from 2016 https://stackstorm.com/case-
| study-netflix/ but there's activity in the temporal
| forums/meetups this year
| https://community.temporal.io/t/proxying-access-to-temporal-...
| playingalong wrote:
| Both mentions likely actually mean a single team here and a
| single team there use the software.
| shantnutiwari wrote:
| I don't see a pricing page - this clearly looks like a product
| supported by a company. What's the plan going forward ? Will it
| still be aviable in a few years ?
| iodbh wrote:
| We got confused when researching StackStorm so to save you some
| digging : the software has been donated to the Linux foundation
| and is no longer supported by a commercial offering. See:
|
| https://stackstorm.com/2020/05/27/extreme-networks-donates-e...
|
| The website is out of date and still refers to the defunct
| enterprise offering
| pmetrix wrote:
| It's supported by the opensource community under the neutral
| Linux Foundation governance:
| https://github.com/StackStorm/st2/blob/master/GOVERNANCE.md
| talboren wrote:
| st2 reminds me a lot of what we're building at
| https://github.com/keephq/keep (i maintain this oss), there are a
| few concepts that i really love but the video in the repo really
| gives me a 90s feelin'
|
| i can't really seem to understand, there's an "enterprise" (with
| ldap, etc.) version but couldn't find any pricing info
|
| edit: well it's not focused on alerting but alerting is somewhat
| kinda "event driven"
| iodbh wrote:
| The project has been donated - there are some leftover
| references to the enterprise offering, but all features have
| been open sourced
| amar0c wrote:
| Wow WTF is with subscribing me to mailing list and "connecting"
| with me to LinkedIN just because I used my Gmail to try demo ?
| mdekkers wrote:
| I've used ST2 on and off for many years, and it blows the socks
| off folks at every place I introduce it. Unfortunately, some
| places have a strong resume-driven-development policy, so if it
| isn't on the hip new cargo cult list of the day, nobody is going
| to have a look at it.
|
| I was recently called a "boomer" for bringing it up. I really
| need a new job.
| nodesocket wrote:
| What's are the advantages using StackStorm over just native
| GitHub actions? I assume being able to push events to servers
| with a running local agent?
| debarshri wrote:
| There isn't much advantage over github actions. It is from the
| ansible and puppet era. You also have to be well verse with
| ansible or puppet to operate properly with stackstorm.
|
| If you are starting out with event driven devops automation,
| you would choose github actions.
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