[HN Gopher] CRISPR cure for HIV now tested in 3 people
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       CRISPR cure for HIV now tested in 3 people
        
       Author : Brajeshwar
       Score  : 22 points
       Date   : 2023-10-29 16:32 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.freethink.com)
        
       | nerdjon wrote:
       | Maybe it's just me being jaded after at least 15 years (or at
       | least it feels like it) of the HIV cure "coming soon" and the
       | personal impact this has had on my community and multiple friends
       | (LGBT).
       | 
       | This article being written kinda bothers me? By the authors own
       | admission we know almost nothing. We really just know it's safe
       | but don't even know if anyone stopped taking their ART.
       | 
       | Sure it's great that we are not getting a setback from it being
       | unsafe... but I am just tired of hearing about the false starts
       | that time and time again turn out ineffective.
       | 
       | Like I said maybe I am just jaded here but something about this
       | rubs me the wrong way.
        
         | Moldoteck wrote:
         | imo, progress usually can't be made without mistakes. There may
         | be many 'coming soon' cures, but a lot will fail, some will
         | cure other things than original disease, some will advance
         | understanding of the disease and gradually, progress is made
         | from different directions
        
         | vikramkr wrote:
         | I'm kind of torn since I hate PR nonsense like this but I'm
         | also glad that HIV research is still getting money and
         | happening - you can't take for granted that there would be
         | enough incentive for people to even keep trying in our current
         | system
        
           | nerdjon wrote:
           | That is very valid, I guess I may have a certain view since
           | HIV is not something that I need to read an article to be
           | reminded of? It is basically a daily thought for me.
           | 
           | I should be clear that I am happy that the research is being
           | done, its just this article isn't (unless I missed it) isn't
           | even a PR piece for the company doing it? A company putting
           | out the actual PR is perfectly valid and I think a standard
           | practice.
        
         | barrysteve wrote:
         | The article is written in a very ambigious manner.
         | 
         | Lots of 'cure' mentions while admitting the treatment is not a
         | cure. Trials run with ambigious results, and Excision is
         | protecting the data until 2024.
         | 
         | Honestly not sure if I read an article at all. It reads like a
         | 'keep alive' ping from an old space probe reporting back it's
         | still alive status.
        
       | GeekyBear wrote:
       | HIV is extremely challenging to cure, since it writes itself into
       | your blood's stem cell DNA and even if you could somehow wipe out
       | every individual viral unit in your body at once, your own cells
       | can still express that DNA and recreate the virus from scratch.
       | 
       | We've seen blood cancer patients cured of HIV after getting a
       | bone marrow transplant, where the stem cells in their own bone
       | marrow are wiped out before being replaced with stem cells from a
       | healthy donor, but that's a little too extreme a procedure for
       | widespread use.
       | 
       | > A man dubbed the 'Geneva patient' appears to be the latest
       | person cured of HIV after a stem cell transplant for cancer
       | treatment. Unlike the other five known cases, however, he
       | received stem cells from a donor who does not have a rare
       | mutation that prevents HIV from entering cells. The man continues
       | to have undetectable HIV 20 months after stopping antiretroviral
       | therapy (ART).
       | 
       | https://www.aidsmap.com/news/jul-2023/first-person-may-be-cu...
       | 
       | Mostly the focus has been on developing a vaccine for prevention,
       | and treatments that suppress the disease in the already infected.
       | 
       | This is the first safety trial I'm aware of where a strategy that
       | could at least theoretically succeed in curing the already
       | infected has been tried.
        
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