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Pope tempted by Python. Signs off on coding scheme for kids
Author : LinuxBender
Score : 66 points
Date : 2023-10-28 19:03 UTC (3 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.theregister.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.theregister.com)
| samwillis wrote:
| The Register has just won headline of the year, love it, and the
| initiative!
| masklinn wrote:
| Surely it'd be even better if they'd used "snake" instead of
| "python", and maybe swapped knowledge for coding?
| recursive wrote:
| I think it's a lot better as it is. A python is a snake. And
| it's about coding. That way the headline is somehow related
| to the content of the article.
| gumballindie wrote:
| Why would anyone want to pick up programming? Isnt ai meant to
| replace software workers?
| d0mine wrote:
| AI is a tool. It may change how programmers do their job but
| programmers won't become obsolete until humans as a whole are.
| musicale wrote:
| So not for a few years then. Maybe.
| IshKebab wrote:
| I don't know about that. Robots are still mostly shit so
| there are a load of manual jobs that would be needed after
| programmers are replaced by AI. I expect the oldest career
| would be the last one too.
|
| That said, I can't see programmers being actually fully
| _replaced_ by AI until we have properly strong AI and at that
| point society as we know it is probably over.
| chmod775 wrote:
| Robots only look bad because we keep trying to make them
| work in spaces and processes optimized for bipedal
| meatbags, essentially forcing us to build a machine analog
| of that meatbag. Take a few steps back and you will realize
| most things are only done a certain way because it uniquely
| suits _us_. Many jobs also don 't _have_ to exist for a
| certain process to work and could be trivially automated,
| but people _want_ them to exist (because we value human
| interaction and the presence of a human can be reassuring).
| Another reason that many things aren 't automated is that
| human labor is comparatively cheap and upending your
| process, developing new machines is expensive.
|
| > Robots are still mostly shit so there are a load of
| manual jobs that would be needed after programmers are
| replaced by AI.
|
| Design your space with automation in mind, and you have the
| reverse situation. To illustrate: If you tried replacing
| machines in an automated factory line with humans, you may
| come to the conclusion that meatbags are mostly shit.
| maxbond wrote:
| I don't know what the future holds, but I know that after
| cameras were perfected we continued to sketch and paint. And I
| think I will write code until the day I die, because
| programming is important to me regardless of whether it's an
| economic necessity. (For that matter, I'll continue writing
| English for consumption by other humans, no matter how good
| LLMs get, because it's an important part of my life.)
| RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote:
| Glad he resisted the temptation and signed off on Scheme. Scheme
| is a much better programming language for kids to learn.
| nxobject wrote:
| The Catholic Church, proving again that they take the century-
| long view of their commitments. (At least, I think Scheme will
| remain a tasteful choice for that long.)
| cassianoleal wrote:
| I think "scheme" here is in the context of a programme - not
| the language.
|
| i.e. the pope endorsed a programme to teach coding in Python
| for kids.
| canadianfella wrote:
| It was a joke.
| erikig wrote:
| Glad the temptation wasn't toward Apple
| rhdunn wrote:
| That was all the Eve online players!
| thiht wrote:
| Not sure the snake is symbolically better!
| Gualdrapo wrote:
| I cannot help but wonder if he's ever heard of TempleOS.
| RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote:
| It would have been awesome for the Holy See to endorse HolyC
| m3kw9 wrote:
| Pope, tempted, scheme, and kids. What is he trying to say
| yieldcrv wrote:
| that there's a history of those words being more relevant than
| the religion
| bdcravens wrote:
| I heard he even considered casting Perl before swine
| bdcravens wrote:
| But ultimately the language doesn't matter; the price is widsom
| is above Ruby.
| lifeisstillgood wrote:
| He did consider his own language - "Holy C", but many found the
| default font ("Roman baptismal") was supposed to be mono-spaced
| but ended up looking tri-spaced.
| MereInterest wrote:
| There is a variant called "HolyC", which was developed by
| Terry Davis as part of his solo development of TempleOS.
|
| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS
| Tao3300 wrote:
| It would be easier for a Caml to pass through the eye of a
| needle.
| rhdunn wrote:
| He even considered the JavaScripture but it wasn't deemed to be
| canon. As for C, he cast that to the void!
| Yoric wrote:
| Well, one of his predecessors has opened the C, so perhaps
| Python is a logical evolution?
| toddm wrote:
| The Ten Commandments are now called requirements.txt.
| erik_seaberg wrote:
| And we thought CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md was contentious before.
| seydor wrote:
| I would protest that the rigidity of python is unfit for the
| catholic church. where do i nail my protestations
| rich_sasha wrote:
| On a strongly typed door. Compiled of hardwood perhaps.
| PLenz wrote:
| That's what PEPs are for
| klft wrote:
| Pope's infallibility vs. Python interpreter.
| ce4 wrote:
| Python, named after Monty Python.
|
| Remember when priests and teachers condemmned the group and Life
| of Brian back in the day?
| lloydatkinson wrote:
| I could tell it was going to be that terrible site by the title
| alone.
| londons_explore wrote:
| Our Python, who art in syntax, hallowed be thy code...
| londons_explore wrote:
| Bless me Father for I have sinned, I have used tabs instead of
| spaces.
| pryelluw wrote:
| import behavior from afterlife import Heaven, Hell, Limbo
| try: behavior.good() return Heaven()
| except behavior.MoralsError as sin: return Hell(sin)
| else: return Limbo()
| arthurcolle wrote:
| bugfix: implement repentance
| VoodooJuJu wrote:
| If this won't flood the labor market and drive down those
| salaries I don't know what will. Clever move, technocrats,
| locking in the Pope.
| kstrauser wrote:
| Sorry. It's a bad habit.
| teddyh wrote:
| "Is the Space Pope reptilian?"
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