[HN Gopher] It took seven years but over-40s fired by HP win $18...
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       It took seven years but over-40s fired by HP win $18M settlement
        
       Author : rntn
       Score  : 38 points
       Date   : 2023-10-27 20:34 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.theregister.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.theregister.com)
        
       | datadrivenangel wrote:
       | Will probably work out to ~$15k per person after fees.
        
         | tyingq wrote:
         | _" If approved without changes, each of the 358 plaintiffs in
         | the California case stand to earn $50,279 in gross individual
         | recovery. Net of attorney's fees, costs and expenses, however,
         | that total shrinks to a "minimum of $15,000," court filings
         | indicate."_
        
           | zer8k wrote:
           | Like usual lawyers walk away with Ferraris and the victims
           | get a pittance. It's particular egregious in this case. $15k
           | is almost surely less than even a year's wages. How pathetic.
           | The very least they could do is calculate 7 years worth of
           | interest on the 18M...but then the scumbag lawyers get more.
        
             | jstarfish wrote:
             | > $15k is almost surely less than even a year's wages. How
             | pathetic.
             | 
             | That's not the worst of it.
             | 
             | It took _seven_ years of effort to be awarded a $15k
             | payout.
             | 
             | Cutting the lawyers out altogether, even the full $50k is
             | still less than a single year's salary for the median
             | household. It doesn't fix anything.
        
       | rio517 wrote:
       | Seems like a slap on the wrist.
        
         | pan69 wrote:
         | It's a settlement, which makes it even worse I guess.
        
       | strangesmells02 wrote:
       | One company down...the entire rest of the tech industry to go.
       | 
       | As an over 40 the job search is grim
        
         | throwaway5959 wrote:
         | The job market in general blows right now. Keep at it and good
         | luck!
        
         | pfannkuchen wrote:
         | Curious what sort of level you are, if your company does that?
         | 
         | I have wondered whether the ageism thing is partially related
         | to younger people being a lottery ticket in terms of
         | talent+commitment level. The company might get lucky and hire
         | someone who is way overpowered but currently under leveled
         | because they have not yet had time to reach their terminal
         | seniority level. This ends up being a great bargain for the
         | company. Whereas with established people it's a bit more you
         | get what you pay for.
        
           | swatcoder wrote:
           | I think a bigger "legitimate" factor is craft culture.
           | 
           | Because of the industry's recent rapid growth wave, the
           | approach experienced older developers take to the craft is
           | often very different than what's trendy among younger
           | developers and teams where they dominate, and there's easily
           | a clash where both think the others' approach is totally
           | bonkers and a red flag.
           | 
           | Somebody seeking a job may know or believe they can adapt,
           | but the hiring team just sees an outsider and assumes the
           | outsider doesn't know how to do things "right".
           | 
           | This applies to skilled young developers trying to break into
           | "old school" teams in defense/enterprise/industrial/etc as
           | much as to older developers trying to keep up with youth-
           | dominated FAANG and imitators, but it's tolerated in the
           | former but can get labelled as ageism in the latter.
        
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