[HN Gopher] Study finds the gulf stream is warming and shifting ...
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       Study finds the gulf stream is warming and shifting closer to shore
        
       Author : geox
       Score  : 45 points
       Date   : 2023-10-09 21:30 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | tomohelix wrote:
       | Honestly, there is nothing I can do about this. Everyone who
       | cares already know and most try to do what they can. But it is
       | obvious from the last decades or so that it isn't enough.
       | 
       | The only way to do anything is to sacrifice something. And since
       | this is such a big issue, the sacrifice also needs to be
       | proportionally big. Personally? I cannot make that sacrifice. I
       | had lived the "low carbon emission" lifestyle before and I do not
       | want to go back to that. I have dedicated the better part of my
       | life so that I do not have to be in that situation again. There
       | are people with more impact to the environment than I am and if
       | they don't lift a finger, why should I? Even if I do, what impact
       | would I have compared to the guy going on a private jet twice a
       | day?
       | 
       | I am tired and jaded. It will be bad and I know it. I am
       | preparing and maybe you should too. But beyond getting ready for
       | the worst, I doubt there is much else to do.
        
         | AA-BA-94-2A-56 wrote:
         | > The only way to do anything is to sacrifice something.
         | 
         | Won't be enough, because the biggest consumers of carbon are
         | billionaires and their corporations.
        
       | pnpnp wrote:
       | Do we know what the long term implications of this are?
        
       | Rodeoclash wrote:
       | First comment and I seem to have beaten the usual cohort of
       | posters questioning the science and telling me why this is
       | entirely due to reasons that aren't at all climate change
       | related!
        
         | The28thDuck wrote:
         | I reject your reality and substitute my own!
        
         | PraetorianGourd wrote:
         | While I understand your point, this comment is pretty close to
         | trite comments like "downvote me if you want, but..." or "does
         | anyone else..." or even the sinful "first!". It sets a negative
         | tone for everyone else who clicks on the comments, and can
         | immediately put people on the defensive (such as someone who
         | wasn't planning on commenting, but now will to refute your
         | point etc.)
        
           | Rodeoclash wrote:
           | I don't disagree and it was posted somewhat tongue in cheek.
           | That said, I did hope it might raise some commentary or
           | insight into why Hacker News seems to have such a vocal
           | cohort of posters on climate change related articles. For a
           | community that prides itself of being logical and scientific,
           | I've found it quite surprising how many here go against the
           | scientific consensus on climate change.
        
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         | stouset wrote:
         | The gulf stream isn't moving, this is just plate tectonics
         | pushing the continents around so it _looks_ like it's moving
         | even though it's actually staying in place.
         | 
         | /s
        
         | dang wrote:
         | I don't mean to pile on, but please don't do this. It just adds
         | noise and degrades discussion.
         | 
         | It's particularly bad when there aren't any comments yet,
         | because threads are really sensitive to initial conditions.
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
       | omgJustTest wrote:
       | paywall for nature science :(, link to the paywall and mentioned
       | study. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-023-01835-w
        
       | aaron695 wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | chris_va wrote:
       | A fun side note, the Western Boundary Time Series project is a
       | neat bit of physics: https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/wbts/
       | 
       | One can measure the rate of flow of seawater (about ~30Sv, or 30
       | million cubic meters per second!) by the potential induced on
       | salt ions from moving through the earth's magnetic field on a old
       | abandoned telegraph cable between Florida and the Bahamas.
       | 
       | https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/202...
       | (TLDR, it's dropping about 1% per decade currently)
        
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