[HN Gopher] Sea trials of new acoustic deterrent device to keep ...
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       Sea trials of new acoustic deterrent device to keep orcas at bay
        
       Author : helsinkiandrew
       Score  : 7 points
       Date   : 2023-10-05 12:17 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | teeray wrote:
       | Orcas can't be present at UN meetings to peacefully lobby for the
       | protection of their homes, so they formed a navy instead.
        
       | messe wrote:
       | It's late here, and I'm tired, so I'm not sure quite how to
       | phrase a comment on this other than to say that this sounds
       | extremely immoral. We already cause enough noise pollution in the
       | seas. To deliberately create it and to cause deliberate
       | discomfort to intelligent creatures, just seems _wrong_ to me.
       | 
       | > The Targeted Acoustic Startle Technology - known as TAST - is
       | designed to trigger the instinctive startle reflex most animals
       | have when they hear a particular sound.
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       | It doesn't just cause discomfort, but it's intended to trigger an
       | innate flight response and the associated anxiety to it.
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       | It's not just discomfort, these are social animals, and we're
       | doing the equivalent of putting on a constant fire alarm to
       | disrupt their daily lives and their intra-species interaction.
        
         | ketralnis wrote:
         | Agreed. This isn't a Mosquito[0] to keep loitering teenagers
         | away, this is plowing through a neighbourhood in a souped up
         | Harley and throwing rocks into windows
         | 
         | 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mosquito
        
         | gopher_space wrote:
         | The context is orca attacks on boats, but since the solution to
         | that problem is an M-80 and single waterproof match this looks
         | like an investment scam that also lets you torture wildlife.
        
           | smegsicle wrote:
           | ah there are more than two sides to this war
        
       | notthemessiah wrote:
       | Boats are already loud and extremely disruptive to ecosystems,
       | probably why sea critters are pissed off enough to attack smaller
       | boats in the first place. Cargo ships are already unfathomably
       | loud at 190 decibels, which is comparable to a rocket launch and
       | would rupture human ear drums.
       | 
       | https://www.nrdc.org/bio/regan-nelson/why-all-concern-about-...
        
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