[HN Gopher] Every Type of Railcar Explained in 15 Minutes [video]
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       Every Type of Railcar Explained in 15 Minutes [video]
        
       Author : zdw
       Score  : 108 points
       Date   : 2023-10-05 02:55 UTC (20 hours ago)
        
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       | unethical_ban wrote:
       | The presenter and the video are super-high-quality! This is the
       | kind of content I expect to see from PBS or some 90s era
       | Discovery channel show. The creator must be professionally
       | trained, or just have a natural talent for education.
       | 
       | Bravo!
        
       | watersb wrote:
       | Nuclear Waste Transport rail car, nearly operational as of 21
       | September 2023:
       | 
       | https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/new-railcar-designed-tran...
        
       | jvolkman wrote:
       | He's got a new video about rail shapes:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nteyw40i9So
        
       | seatac76 wrote:
       | Love Brady's work. I bought his book too. While I was hoping for
       | a more coffee table type book, it is more dense than that but
       | still a delightful read.
       | 
       | Book Title: Engineering in Plain Sight.
        
       | richardjam73 wrote:
       | Main ones I see are hoppers and cattle cars. I live quite close
       | to a railyard so it is interesting to see all the trains from a
       | distance. There is no regular passenger services here so I rarely
       | see passenger cars. Most of the freight is coal or grain. Heavy
       | things are generally transported by roads since the mines and
       | powerstations are not always near the rail line.
        
         | HankB99 wrote:
         | I live about 100 yards from the Union Pacific mail east/west
         | line out of Chicago and we see a great variety of freight cars,
         | but I cannot recall the last time I saw a stock car. I guess
         | that's because the Chicago stock yards no longer exist except
         | as a neighborhood.
         | 
         | The only passenger cars this like carries are the Metra double-
         | deckers (except for the very occasional heritage trail such as
         | the Big Boy entourage.) Amtrak uses the BNSF rails a few miles
         | from here.
        
         | jvolkman wrote:
         | Is this in the US or elsewhere? I don't think livestock travels
         | by rail in the US anymore, but autorack cars (that carry
         | automobiles) look similar.
         | 
         | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/ETTX_905...
        
       | dvh wrote:
       | Not every. Draisine is missing: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draisine
        
         | eesmith wrote:
         | The presenter clarified it was for unpowered cars pulled by a
         | locomotive.
         | 
         | A draisine does not fit that description.
        
         | sitkack wrote:
         | This railbus is adorable!
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rail_bus01.jpg
        
           | twic wrote:
           | Don't say that to anyone from Northern England, they had to
           | suffer these things for a generation:
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacer_(British_Rail)
        
           | mschuster91 wrote:
           | A bit larger and you can use these as legitimate standard
           | trains, like this VT 98 from Germany [1]. Either you attach
           | them at the rear of a regular train for longer distances and
           | then separate it to serve a leg on some rural side track, or
           | you attach a passenger car should you face higher demand on a
           | day (e.g. popular tourist destinations), or you attach a
           | freight car for express service to some industry along the
           | tracks [2].
           | 
           | I seriously miss these things, there are _so many_ rural
           | railways that got shut down following the privatisation
           | frenzy in the 90s, and could really be made to work again
           | with a modern variant.
           | 
           | [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Baureihe_798_752-
           | 2.j...
           | 
           | [2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB-Baureihe_VT_98
        
       | throwaheyy wrote:
       | Strangely no mention at all of EMUs, DMUs or single self-
       | propelled rail cars. "Every train has a locomotive" is quite US-
       | centric.
        
         | paddy_m wrote:
         | I would love to see an in depth study of Switzerland's freight
         | rail system. Apparently it works well for quick movements of
         | small amounts of freight (single container).
         | 
         | From what I can tell, the much lauded US freight rail system
         | only works for slow (30 mph or less average speed over
         | distance) high latency shipments in massive quantities (coal,
         | and raw minerals). There are frequently delays, which makes US
         | freight rail noncompetitive with trucking.
         | 
         | Open to suggestions if anyone knows where I can read a good
         | explanation of the Swiss practices that enable their system to
         | be low latency.
        
           | bobthepanda wrote:
           | Part of it is large, methodical investment. Switzerland
           | explicitly pays for rail improvements using taxes on heavy
           | goods vehicles, and a referendum committed a reduction in
           | Alps heavy goods traffic into the Swiss constitution.
           | https://www.euki.de/wp-
           | content/uploads/2019/09/20180827_CH_M...
        
           | p_l wrote:
           | Important pay off it is that us railroads AFAIK have
           | optimized for the high latency and humongous trains whereas
           | in many other places there are constraints that prevent such
           | strategies.
        
         | delta_p_delta_x wrote:
         | I was about to point this out, too. This entire video is US-
         | centric, which explains the dearth of passenger rail content.
         | It completely skips many other types of passenger train. Many
         | high-speed rail (Japanese Shinkansen, German ICE) and almost
         | _all_ rapid transit carriages are EMUs.
         | 
         | Double-decker cars are significantly more common in continental
         | Europe. The TGV regularly runs Duplex[1] carriages on the LGV
         | Sud-Est (Paris-Lyon) route, and Swiss Federal Railways has
         | IC2000, IR Double Decker, and the LD Double Decker.
         | 
         | [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGV_Duplex
        
           | mindslight wrote:
           | Please find or make similar videos for other parts of the
           | world. As a USian that mostly knew about all the types of
           | railcars in this video, that would be awesome.
        
           | mschuster91 wrote:
           | > Many high-speed rail (Japanese Shinkansen, German ICE) and
           | almost all rapid transit carriages are EMUs.
           | 
           | Nit pick: The German ICE 1 and 2 series are pulled/pushed by
           | a locomotive [1] that's a direct evolution of the BR 120
           | locomotive - the world's first electric locomotive to use
           | solid-state converters [2].
           | 
           | As a result of that, the trains have different top speeds
           | depending on the locomotive being on the front (faster) or
           | rear (slower) end [3].
           | 
           | [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICE_1#Triebk%C3%B6pfe_(Baur
           | eih...
           | 
           | [2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB-Baureihe_120
           | 
           | [3]
           | https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICE_2#Betrieb_bei_Seitenwind
        
             | rob74 wrote:
             | The ICE1 being the longer version with locomotives
             | ("Triebkopfe", literally "driving heads") at both ends,
             | while the ICE2 is only half as long, with only one
             | locomotive, and two of them can be coupled - the
             | restriction you mentioned only applies to these.
             | 
             | ...but actually the ones to first use this configuration
             | were the French with their TGV, which was then copied by
             | the Germans and Italians for their respective high-speed
             | trains (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGV#Allgemein). And
             | then the Austrians implemented a "budget version" of a
             | high-speed train with their Railjet
             | (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railjet) which uses an
             | unmodified Taurus locomotive and a control car which has
             | the same design as the locomotive.
        
           | HankB99 wrote:
           | > Double-decker cars are significantly more common in
           | continental Europe.
           | 
           | And west of Chicago in the US. Amtrak runs double-decker cars
           | west of Chicago and in fact Chicago's passenger rail service
           | (Metra) is mostly (all?) double-decker.
           | 
           | My understanding is that tunnel clearance in the east is not
           | sufficient for the double-decker cars.
           | 
           | I also see containers stacked two high and auto carriers that
           | appear to be similar height and these probably also don't
           | travel east in the US for the same reason.
        
             | bobthepanda wrote:
             | Double deck cars do exist on the east but are configured
             | differently. West of Chicago the floor is level with the
             | door, east the double deck is achieved by having the lower
             | floor halfway below.
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C3_(railcar)
        
         | klinquist wrote:
         | And even the US is coming on board.
         | 
         | Caltrain (commuter train in the SF Bay Area) is actively
         | testing a fleet of new EMUs now, scheduled to begin passenger
         | service in Sept 2024.
        
           | bobthepanda wrote:
           | There are also already DMUs and EMUs in service in the United
           | States.
           | 
           | Of the legacy carriers, New York's MTA has been usig multiple
           | units for the better part of a century. These days, a lot of
           | rail services like SMART in Sonoma, DART in Dallas, and
           | Sprinter in San Diego to name a few use them as well.
        
         | samtho wrote:
         | He is doing a full series on the engineering of railroads and
         | mentioned this is just the basics. He did not cover locomotives
         | (propulsion, types, differences among passenger, fright, etc)
         | in this video and focused solely unpowered rail cars.
        
         | ragebol wrote:
         | Had to look those up:
         | 
         | - EMU https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_multiple_unit -
         | DMU https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_multiple_unit
        
           | User23 wrote:
           | Reading about how these are generally made of an even number
           | of cars reminded me of this[1].
           | 
           | [1] https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/ewd05xx/EWD594.PDF
        
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