[HN Gopher] Great Pyramid of Cholula
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Great Pyramid of Cholula
Author : keepamovin
Score : 81 points
Date : 2023-10-04 08:49 UTC (1 days ago)
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| kshay wrote:
| Huh, never realized you could target individual elements of an
| SVG with CSS :hover rules!
|
| https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Comparis...
| teachrdan wrote:
| I didn't know this either! I once made an interactive dashboard
| and couldn't figure out how to add an on-click action to my SVG
| heat map. So I used the same coordinates that I used for the
| heat map to make a bunch of invisible divs on top of the SVG,
| and added on-click actions to those divs.
| dboreham wrote:
| Transamerica Pyramid : lol
| paulmd wrote:
| how can I take this comparison seriously when they don't even
| include the Bass Pro Shops pyramid?
| sehansen wrote:
| Wikipedia has a number of cool, interactive SVGs. This
| illustration of satelite orbits is my personal favourite:
| https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Comparis...
| projektfu wrote:
| It's a fun visit if you're in the area. A bus goes there
| frequently from Puebla. Puebla is itself a quick jump by bus from
| Mexico City, and worth the visit.
| Saturdays wrote:
| +1 - and the mole and the chile en nogada there is fantastic.
| The churches are beautiful. Really neat day trip.
| bionhoward wrote:
| I opened this expecting something about hot sauce! What a dope!
| pmlamotte wrote:
| Yeah, I was really hoping it was going to be like the Bass Pro
| Shops pyramid
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_Pyramid
| elthran wrote:
| Make that 2 people - thoroughly disappointed! I was expecting
| something along the lines of the strategic food reserves
| various countries have
| User23 wrote:
| Cholula hot sauce is remarkably good for a mass market
| condiment. I like it far more than Tabasco and the other
| widely available alternatives.
| konfusinomicon wrote:
| cholula is a solid mild sauce. I consider it as a stepping
| stone to valentina, then the Guatemalan favorite picamas.
| next thing you know your full on kutbil-ik yucateca and you
| need habanero on everything just to have a good day
| civilized wrote:
| I stop at Cholula, anything stronger is risking
| gastrointestinal regret.
| cratermoon wrote:
| Yucatan Sunshine is my go-to for habanero. For a change
| of pace, Marie Sharp's.
| LinuxBender wrote:
| +1 I have the yucateca on (all the things) every morning.
| elthran wrote:
| I think it's the reduced vinegariness and thicker
| consistency - eggs of any kind with lashings of cholula is
| a regular breakfast for me
| aidenn0 wrote:
| I find it only slightly better than Tabasco. Tapatio is the
| go-to for me.
| dinkleberg wrote:
| If you're interested in these kinds of historical sites, you
| should check out the Netflix show ancient apocalypse.
|
| It is apparently divisive in the archeology world, but it
| introduces some interesting theories and takes a look at some
| fascinating sites.
| fipar wrote:
| The Fall of Civilizations podcast is also very interesting and,
| despite the title, actually covers each civilization from
| origin to fall.
|
| I do believe Cholula, and this particular pyramid, are
| mentioned in the episode about the Mexica empira. That one also
| includes readings of sources contemporary to the early stages
| of the colonian era in native Nahuatl.
| boringg wrote:
| Here to say that its a great pod!
| jandrese wrote:
| I saw part of that show and my impression was that it was
| produced by the same guys who did Ancient Aliens. Lots of
| conjecture, not much evidence.
| suzzer99 wrote:
| I ignored the show Expedition Unknown forever, thinking it
| was another one of these kinds of shows. But it's actually
| really cool and fact-based (except for the ghost/monster
| chasing spin off of the same name - why Josh, why?).
| [deleted]
| n4r9 wrote:
| > It is apparently divisive in the archeology world
|
| Just looking at its Wikipedia entry, "divisive" is not the word
| I would use! It sounds like there's a strong consensus in the
| archeology world.
|
| > Archaeologists and other experts have described the theories
| presented in the series as lacking in evidence and easily
| disproven.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Apocalypse
| [deleted]
| local_crmdgeon wrote:
| One of my dreams is that Americans will treat New World history
| and accomplishments with the same respect as we treat European
| history and accomplishments. LatAm is wonderful, the food is
| better than across the pond, and a lot of the cultural history
| there impacts our day to day lives here. Mexican and Guatemalan
| migrants? Many are 100% ethnically 100% Mayan.
|
| There's a lot of evidence that the American obsession with
| natural rights is at least in part due to Native thought and
| lifestyle. Their history and motivations matters a lot more to
| you than Lord Fuckwad of Luxembourg marrying his sister. The
| accomplishments down there are just as remarkable, and much more
| accessible than the Euro equivalent.
| sho_hn wrote:
| As a European, after reading "1491" and "1493" by Charles C.
| Mann last year, I agree: I learned a lot from that book. I
| didn't realize there was such a treasure trove of world history
| there, and so many intricate links between these societies in
| the early history of American colonization.
| lobsterslive wrote:
| There's a really great Youtube channel that covers indigenous
| American history called Ancient Americas:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/@AncientAmericas
|
| It does a ton of really great deep dives into pre-Columbian and
| native cultures. I agree with you that there's a lot to learn
| and an unrecognized degree of influence on our day to day lives
| (corn and potatoes being two examples).
| suzzer99 wrote:
| Don't forget chocolate, tomatoes, and basically all spicy
| food. The spiciest thing in the Old World before Columbus was
| black pepper.
| romx wrote:
| For some reason old Mexican stones refuse to be buried. Like the
| history of this one
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C5%8D%C4%81tl%C4%ABcue it has
| been buried several times but it gets back to surface.
| cratermoon wrote:
| The Brazil Nut effect?
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granular_convection
| romx wrote:
| Coatlicue was a goddess, which was first kept apart from
| natives, during Spaniard colony. Soon natives found the place
| and brought offerings to the goddess. That made Spaniards to
| actually bury the stone.
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRlE85xYqzE
| ajschrier wrote:
| Full disclosure: I clicked on this thinking it was a hot sauce
| joke. I can only apologize.
| henry_pulver wrote:
| Pretty sure it's this pyramid where they didn't know the whole
| hill the pyramid was on top of was actually part of the pyramid
| until recently
|
| I wonder what other natural formations are man-made, but we don't
| realise it yet
| boffinAudio wrote:
| There's a mountain in Bosnia that many believe is an
| artificially constructed pyramid (I wanted to say 'man made'
| but thats misleading, we don't know that..)
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramid_claims
|
| There are also the Gornaya Shoria megaliths, also known as the
| Surak-Kuilum megalithic complex, in Siberia .. these are
| fascinating structures, I wish we'd get more exploration of
| this area.
|
| Its very likely we're going to keep discovering things like
| this around the world - and especially in our oceans, where it
| is believed that similar pyramids exist around the Bahama's and
| in the oceans near Portugal ..
| eigenket wrote:
| As far as the Bosnian thing goes, this is from the wiki
| article you linked:
|
| > Direct study of the site by geologists, archaeologists, and
| other scientists has demonstrated that the hills are natural
| formations known as flatirons, and that there is no evidence
| that they were shaped by human construction.The European
| Association of Archaeologists has condemned the so-called
| 'Bosnian pyramids' as a "cruel hoax"; along with various
| other scholars they are also concerned about damage being
| done to genuine archaeological and paleontological sites: a
| medieval Bosnian castle, Roman fortifications, and some even
| more ancient remains. Osmanagic initiated excavations in 2006
| and has since reshaped one of the hills, making it look like
| a stepped pyramid.The academic community has called for the
| government to end funding of excavations and disruption of
| the site because of the damage to true archaeological
| resources.
| boffinAudio wrote:
| The jury is still out - there are studies which refute this
| original geological survey as well, I guess they just
| haven't made it to Wikipedia yet... either way until we
| start excavations again, we won't have definitive proof
| that these are natural structures. Its obviously a
| politically charged subject ..
| n4r9 wrote:
| Could you provide a link to these other studies please?
| notahacker wrote:
| I'm sure a mountebank promoting it as a tourist
| attraction is capable of paying for "studies"
|
| Not all studies are as reliable as others though.
|
| HNers shouldn't really have too much difficulty
| establishing whether an origin theory conceived by
| geologists familiar with dozens of similar sites or one
| conceived by someone talking about ancient Illyrians
| making a "cosmic internet" is more likely to be
| correct...
| [deleted]
| keepamovin wrote:
| Yes this is an interesting question. It seems like many
| structures would over time become covered over with nature and
| be almost unrecognizably artificial--until you dig! :)
| timetraveller26 wrote:
| The Spaniards even built a Church on the top
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