[HN Gopher] Bruno - Opensource, sustainability, privacy, freedom...
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Bruno - Opensource, sustainability, privacy, freedom and incentives
Author : ushakov
Score : 53 points
Date : 2023-10-01 17:19 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| woliveirajr wrote:
| We don't talk about Bruno, no no....
| markcollin wrote:
| We don't talk about Bruno ;)
| __natty__ wrote:
| I like the simplicity of Bruno and that the author is aware why
| devs liked the Postman and Insomnia. I will wait however until it
| will mature a little more as my huge project in Insomnia can't be
| imported (I guess because I left empty names to see directly URLs
| and Bruno doesn't allow that).
| brokensoul98 wrote:
| [dead]
| helloanoop wrote:
| Hi there! This is Anoop. Glad that you like Bruno. On the
| import issue you mentioned, its due to the architecture choice
| of Bruno where every request is stored on the filesystem as a
| file. I don't have a solution in mind, perhaps the a reasonable
| approach is to fallback to "Untitled" at the time of import.
| helloanoop wrote:
| This was my first article that got to front page on HN! Thank you
| @ushakov for posting this.
| 3np wrote:
| [delayed]
| madduci wrote:
| I appreciate there's a new tool in the block, but I still don't
| understand why none put JMeter as a competitor in this list.
|
| I was using Postman myself and I got really upset about their
| change and forced limitations, on the other hand I understand
| their needs to charge people for monetisation.
|
| The most upsetting thing about Postman was the impossibility to
| use multiple client certificates for TLS authentication, but only
| one for domain.
|
| Although JMeter isn't as pleasant as the other tools are,
| speaking of UI, it is capable of supporting multiple protocols
| and there are no limitations in using TLS certificates or checks.
| j1elo wrote:
| Small typo: Corportate -> Corporate
| helloanoop wrote:
| Thanks. Fixed!
| twen_ty wrote:
| That VC funding table is everything that's absurdly wrong with VC
| money. How TF is Postman worth $434M at $5.6B valuation?
| markcollin wrote:
| To put things into perspective MS bought "GitHub" (which has a
| monopoly on oss hosting) in 2018 for 7.5b
|
| and Postman (a gui client) is at 5.6b. mind-bogglingly insane.
| I'd love to be enlightened on why is postman valued so much.
| what is d endgame here?
| helloanoop wrote:
| I think the core reason is their monopoly and having over 20
| million developers using their tool, and the hope that they
| can monetize this in future.
|
| But yes $5.6b is nuts.
| [deleted]
| markcollin wrote:
| Interesting. glad to see the transparency. oss monetization is
| really hard.
|
| sadly, most dev's don't pay for dev tooling.
|
| really liking Bruno so far. Also I don't think a gui client would
| need vc funding. The pressure to show returns is what turns them
| to bloatware and saas.
|
| I would pay for supporter edition if they go that route. tired of
| switching tools every 2 years.
| ushakov wrote:
| There is no pressure if you don't need much money and get it
| from right people, who know the deal upfront
| brokensoul98 wrote:
| [dead]
| markcollin wrote:
| Like? If I understand you raise outside only if you plan to
| scale and give a great return; otherwise it is better to
| bootstrap right?
| helloanoop wrote:
| Thanks for your vote of confidence!
| typosaur wrote:
| Sadly, the problem I see with Bruno is that users migrating from
| competition are actually low-value targets and would never pay
| for _anything_. Regardless with what happened to Postman and
| Insomnia, they didn 't loose any significant market share (again,
| only a certain minority, which would never pay anyways). Most of
| the people will just accept the new conditions and go on. It's
| not worth the hassle for them to migrate
|
| Good luck!
| markcollin wrote:
| that rings true. and devs dont usually pay for dev tools. the
| only way I see them having any success is if they gain
| significant market adoption
|
| however I applaud the effort trying to innovate in the
| saturated field. Almost every alternative on that list except
| thunder client is vc funded. I still can't wrap my head around
| postmans 5.6b val lol
| Zetobal wrote:
| It's convenience and nothing else that's all these tools have
| going for them. It's just to catch lazy bastards out who
| based their whole workflow on it. It's the scummiest way to
| do business and everyone associated with it gets on my
| private "Don't do business with"-list.
| djbusby wrote:
| Well, when they become/are the major player (close to
| monopoly) and then can ratchet up some enterprise crap, then
| do the 10% per year squeeze - well, that's what VCs believe
| in (and buy). A 10x multiple means they "only" need $500M TTM
| to justify to the next mark. And, these big valuation help
| with the IPO, loads of folk love to buy hyped up IPO.
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