[HN Gopher] Insect-sized robots that can crawl, hop and turn
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       Insect-sized robots that can crawl, hop and turn
        
       Author : zdw
       Score  : 86 points
       Date   : 2023-10-01 02:55 UTC (20 hours ago)
        
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       | inportb wrote:
       | Would this be a tiny internal combustion engine?
        
       | 7373737373 wrote:
       | Can it jump higher than this one:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daaDuC1kbds ? If so I'd love to
       | see them both hopping around the moon
        
       | the_third_wave wrote:
       | > Robert Shepherd at Cornell University in New York and his
       | colleagues have turned instead methane, a chemical fuel that can
       | store energy at a much higher density than lithium-ion batteries
       | 
       | I think they're on to something there. Imagine a larger-scale
       | vehicle driven using this internal combustion mechanism, large
       | enough even to carry people. It would have a much bigger range
       | than common electric vehicles. I'm pretty sure it will even be
       | possible to use liquefied methane or one of its larger-chained
       | family members which would negate the use of pressure vessels to
       | carry methane and make for a quick and easy recharge, especially
       | compared with the batteries we're used to. I'm off to the patent
       | office, this invention will change the world.
        
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       | candiodari wrote:
       | Reminds me of Blackadder explaining the same concept for humans:
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK4Ixy2tjd8
       | 
       | Heh. One wonders if this research was inspired on that scene. Or
       | perhaps on quake's rocket jumping.
        
       | nuancebydefault wrote:
       | Reminds me of cars using ICE for movement.
        
       | Animats wrote:
       | Sandia built something like this about 20 years ago. It was a
       | ball with a combustion-powered pogo stick piston. A weight inside
       | allowed the ball to orient itself, and then the piston would be
       | fueled and fired to launch it towards the next destination.
       | 
       | The intended application was swarming land mines. Drop a few
       | hundred of these from an aircraft. They sense nearby targets, and
       | when they find a good one, such as a convoy, they call to others
       | nearby to come join the fun.
        
       | idiotsecant wrote:
       | It's interesting that this mechanism doesn't show up in biology,
       | I can imagine a bug with superpowered bug jump that uses methane
       | the bug produces in its gut with helper bacteria. I suppose at
       | very small scales flight is probably way cheaper, biologically.
        
         | CharlesW wrote:
         | > _It 's interesting that this mechanism doesn't show up in
         | biology..._
         | 
         | It's not a chemical explosion, but pistol shrimp create tiny,
         | 4,000degC supersonic booms to kill prey.
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMhjqbESIeY
        
         | pvaldes wrote:
         | some beetles do a similar trick
        
       | Qem wrote:
       | Reminds me of the Put-Put, Orion project's chemical explosive
       | propelled proof-of-concept prototype: http://www.century-of-
       | flight.freeola.com/Aviation%20history/...
        
       | tehwebguy wrote:
       | One step closer to rocket jumping!
        
       | the__alchemist wrote:
       | > Its makers say it could be produced cheaply in bulk and is
       | ideal for search-and-rescue missions or even exploring other
       | planets.
       | 
       | https://xkcd.com/2128/
        
         | orbifold wrote:
         | search and rescue is also code for the military might find it
         | useful. whenever a drone is supposed to deliver aid packages to
         | firefighters for example.
        
       | Loughla wrote:
       | >"There are lots of places that this would be useful that
       | wouldn't be right next to a person," he says. "I do actually
       | think this would be a solution to search and rescue"
       | 
       | Someone smarter than me tell me how this would be at all useful
       | for search and rescue. I can't see it. If this thing, at a large
       | scale, could be used, then so could a helicopter?
        
         | Retric wrote:
         | I think the idea is to make a small robot to go through gaps in
         | a collapsed structure. This could help figure out which pieces
         | can be moved safely without causing further collapse.
         | 
         | Alternatively, if you can get water to trapped people you can
         | greatly extend how long you have to rescue someone.
        
         | foreigner wrote:
         | "Search and rescue" is the standard excuse anytime someone
         | invents a nifty new robot. I would love to know how many robots
         | are actually really used in search and rescue.
        
           | bondarchuk wrote:
           | To be more precise, "search and rescue" is a euphemism for
           | "warfare".
        
             | cooldrcool2 wrote:
             | 'Search and destroy.'
        
             | bglazer wrote:
             | "We'll use it to find people in building rubble" really
             | begs the question of why the building is rubble in the
             | first place
        
       | mhb wrote:
       | More detail / better article:
       | https://newatlas.com/robotics/micro-combustion-robot/
       | 
       | Also, it's tethered to fuel and control.
        
       | lwhi wrote:
       | Love the music contrasted with a pretty whimsically comical
       | robot.
       | 
       | Reminds me of a toy frog that was around in the 1980s/90s where a
       | pressed rubber indent created a timed 'pop' which propelled the
       | toy frog up and over.
        
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