[HN Gopher] To bring socializing back to social networks, apps t...
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To bring socializing back to social networks, apps try A.I. imagery
Author : amichail
Score : 21 points
Date : 2023-09-28 11:16 UTC (1 days ago)
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| neonate wrote:
| http://web.archive.org/web/20230929110452/https://www.nytime...
| jasonsb wrote:
| Social media as we knew it 10 years ago is dead and nothing will
| bring it back. OK, maybe "nothing" is an exaggeration, but we can
| safely exclude AI. AI will not bring back anything related to
| social networks.
| benreesman wrote:
| Social media companies have the most defensible datasets with
| actual longitudinal human behavior.
|
| If you want some big graph attention mechanism to know if
| people are going to get divorced? Just to pick an example.
|
| AI will bring back the IP trench warfare about the "graph",
| twist: they don't care if it gets updated.
| XorNot wrote:
| I would argue social media started dying all on its own anyway:
| I remember the novelty of Facebook wearing off quickly when the
| most active subset of people on it all decided to just use it
| to cross post self promotion about their careers, and I had the
| "right, I don't actually care about people I went to high
| school with at all" moment.
| barrenko wrote:
| Media itself might be dead.
| garba_dlm wrote:
| nah, but the way in which ownership over media works right
| now (20th century style) cannot hold.
|
| media itself will adapt, change, morph or something
| pixl97 wrote:
| Eh, media dying would probably be better for us... current
| evolution of media isn't taking it towards a destination
| where it's beneficial to the user. Much like the morphing
| of staph into MSRA.
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| fooop wrote:
| ah yes. The solution for too much technology is obviously more
| technology. I'm so glad that we have all these smart people
| working for us.
| gumballindie wrote:
| If anything, ai will alienate people from social networks. Fakery
| is already plenty, more will make alienation worse.
| rightbyte wrote:
| Ye I happened to visit Reddit during the mod drama, and I
| noticed how all the bigger subs had this bot feeling to it. It
| was nothing like it used to feel when I used Reddit 10 years
| ago. It was like, as if 95% of the comments were from bots. Not
| the top voted ones, but the tail on those comments. And the
| bots seemed to just agree to whatever they were answering to
| with vague context feedback. The mix I anticipate is like every
| other user raging at every other user for being wrong, sorta.
| bitwize wrote:
| Reddit has been not Reddit for a long time now. I still
| remember when the death of Fup, the store cat from Powell's
| Technical Books in Portland, OR, made the front page of
| Reddit.
|
| But both Reddit and Portland have long since been
| enshittified from how I remember them.
| willcipriano wrote:
| I don't think it's bots, I see these sort of people in real
| life, it's most people in some circles.
|
| They are playing a little social game where you bet on a what
| a socially acceptable opinion is and if you guess right you
| get dopamine in the form of likes. This concensus seeking
| feedback loop results predictably in a hivemind.
| seneca wrote:
| Yes, exactly this. It's a form of a Keynesian beauty
| contest. That essentially means to make your comment based
| not on what you think, but on what you think will be
| popular with others.
|
| It's the heart of modern social media. It abdicates opinion
| to the masses and drives the hive mind.
| rightbyte wrote:
| Maybe, it is hard to prove the "dead internet theory". But
| I mean look at you. That is how it used to feel like on
| Reddit. Write stuff. Someone disagrees. Etc. Reddit gives
| me sect vibes nowadays.
| pixl97 wrote:
| Why not both?
|
| Because of Reddit's api changes it's harder to track this,
| but at one point it was pretty easy to find accounts that
| only posted comments that had already been posted in the
| past.
|
| Now, it's difficult to trace most comments under 7 or 8
| words, but there were accounts that only had ever posted
| replies from other users. Just watching some threads in
| popular subs for replies that were exactly the same as
| others. Then trace both accounts. Sometimes one is a
| legitimate human, and one is a bot. Other times both
| accounts where pretty much every post in their account is
| something that had been previously posted.
| hightrix wrote:
| I noticed the exact same thing. In the midst of the protests,
| it felt like reddit turned on the "AI comment bots" and then
| just let them run. I rarely saw insightful comments or
| comments that aren't just repeated/reposted comments from the
| last time the link was posted. Reddit says "we did it" in
| response to the protest, but it really feels empty these last
| couple of months.
|
| This was almost as noticeable as during the 2016 election
| when the general sentiment of the site went from Pro-Sanders
| to Pro-Clinton, literally over night. The tinfoil hatters
| blame the Correct The Record group becoming active at that
| time.
|
| Along with the more recent changes of adding paid upvotes
| along with contributor rewards and then removing the ability
| to opt-out of ad-personalization, reddit management seems to
| have a one track mind. Profitability at the expense of
| _anything_ , including the userbase.
| qingcharles wrote:
| AI has changed the game for content uploaded to the Internet. I
| haven't seen an Asian girl in the last two years who doesn't
| run a filter on her images/videos 24x7. I know I try not to
| upload any images of myself that haven't at least been tweaked
| by AI, if nothing else than to improve the lighting etc. Shit,
| I even run my comments through ChatGPT before I post them if I
| feel like they could be improved.
|
| We're living in a strange time.
| DiggyJohnson wrote:
| This is wild to me. You could just not do though things and I
| genuinely believe the world will feel a bit less strange for
| you personally.
| 13years wrote:
| This works as a novelty for a moment's interest. However, it
| quickly fades as AI is making authenticity a crisis of meaning.
|
| The new Meta announcements are bringing a flood of new gimmickery
| to the social platforms. More fake realities.
|
| I'm not sure where all this leads society, but I used AI art as a
| launch into deeper introspection of where we are going here.
|
| _Is society on the precipice of falling into the abyss of
| illusion? Whatever is applicable in the context of art is likely
| also for the rest of all works, creative or intellectual, by
| human beings. Whatever is the current trajectory in these matters
| does not stop at art. AI inevitably will consume in some form all
| disciplines and master them. Observing closely what happens to
| art could inform us as to the future of other human domains._
|
| https://www.mindprison.cc/p/ai-art-challenges-meaning-in-a-w...
| carabiner wrote:
| OpenAI must be destroyed.
| qingcharles wrote:
| Had to dig around to find this thing.. it's a Y Combinator pitch:
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| https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/can-of-soup
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