[HN Gopher] Jony Ive and OpenAI's Altman reportedly collaboratin...
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Jony Ive and OpenAI's Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious
AI device
Author : mfiguiere
Score : 40 points
Date : 2023-09-27 21:34 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
| TheAlchemist wrote:
| And the timing of this rumor, which the article admits has
| absolutely no specifics nor leg to stand on, has certainly
| nothing to do with their attempt to raise funds at a $90 billion
| valuation.
|
| I can't help thinking that we're in for another 'AI winter' after
| so much hype with Tesla, Nvidia and chatGPT.
| sova wrote:
| I wonder if it would be a human-ish/esque/like interface to the
| MMLM? At Japanese Complete, we recently announced such a project
| to become available once the MMLMs are more dialed in. I think
| this is a natural step for the big players. We have our
| curriculum as an edge, so optimistically beat featurization.
| Announcement: https://japanesecomplete.com/articles/?p=1574
| pcblues wrote:
| An ever-changing UI has an enormous and unaddressed cost on
| users. Continual re-learning without choice in order to achieve
| the same tasks as always.
|
| I imagine this will be accelerated with constantly renewed AI-
| generated app experiences.
|
| If a company could freeze the UI for a person once they have
| mastered it for what they want to do with it without sacrificing
| security, etc. (easy if they separate the concerns properly) I'd
| buy the product. I'd almost pay a subscription for them to keep
| it the same, like how I pay youtube a subscription to remove
| their ads.
| sova wrote:
| Why wait for news when we can settle for gossip and speculation
| /s
| ilaksh wrote:
| Its hilarious and kind of stupid that this empty rumour has so
| much traction.
|
| I think it just demonstrates that there is a lot of excitement
| about the possibilities of AI and also of new gadgets.
|
| It's like, imagine the most awesome gadget ever, now multiply
| times REAL AI. How can that _not_ be amazing? Whatever it is??
|
| Heh.
|
| But it's also such a fun and engaging exercise to think how AI
| could be embedded in a new device that you use every day.
|
| It might be really good marketing, whether it was intended that
| way or not. People can just project whatever they are
| enthusiastic about onto it.
|
| They may be disappointed at the end, but that might come after
| they have already bought it.
| mise_en_place wrote:
| This is a big mistake. Software companies should not pivot into
| HW without understanding what a large undertaking that is.
| jordancode wrote:
| Very exciting. This must be a smart speaker right?
| hashtag-til wrote:
| Alexa for dogs/cats/ferrets and whatnot.
| ignoramous wrote:
| I bet it'll be a smartphone that has front cameras to
| fingerprint your retina and back cameras to track everyone
| else's. In about half a decade, Zuck will show up with PS100b
| to acquire it.
|
| In all seriousness, Sam has been on record that smartphones
| indirectly contribute to information/tech addiction, and that
| lack of digital well-being is a global epidemic [0]. May be
| that. Surely, that?
|
| [0] https://blog.samaltman.com/the-merge
| lyapunova wrote:
| Why is it so painfully obvious that people with position
| piece blog posts do so to distance themselves or provide an
| alibi for the things they plan to directly contradict in the
| future?
| lovemenot wrote:
| A personal verification dongle / hand-held Orb.
|
| Lipstick-sized retina scanner (selfies only). No screen, app
| store or other standard smart-phone features. Secure local
| network interface to World Coin smart-phone app. Months-long
| battery life.
|
| Open spec h/w and OSS. Low cost, high-volume production.
| babypuncher wrote:
| Jony Ive is involved, so it will probably cost $1,500 and
| require you to turn it upside down to charge it. But damn if it
| doesn't look sexy sitting on your desk...
| raverbashing wrote:
| It will also forego usability for appearance. Who needs a
| keyboard to type anyway...
| babypuncher wrote:
| I'm still not convinced The Onion's Macbook Wheel wasn't a
| real thing he tried to convince Jobs to make.
| karim79 wrote:
| Indeed, and the buttons on it (power, mic on/off, volume
| up/down etc) will start failing or doubling the input as soon
| as the tiniest bit of dust breaches the gaps, thanks to the
| latest-and-greatest Tiger Moth mechanism which is designed
| for the perception of greater button travel while reducing
| the thickness of said buttons by 0.00000000017%.
| ryandrake wrote:
| And the cables/cords will all look like this[1] after a
| month of use because proper strain relief is for
| "traditional companies."
|
| 1: https://www.businessinsider.in/tips-for-fixing-an-
| iphone-or-...
| skilled wrote:
| > One possibility is OpenAI is building its own operating
| system... Imagine an AI-native operating system that could
| generate apps in real-time based on what it believes its user
| needs, or one that listens to nearby conversations and
| automatically pulls up relevant information for its user.
|
| I'm imagining that right now... it's not looking good.
| carlthrowaway wrote:
| Carl leaned back in his leather chair, a cup of steaming
| chamomile tea beside him. The article he'd just read about Jony
| Ive and Sam Altman's possible collaboration on an AI device
| floated around in his mind. He looked out at the bustling city
| through the tall windows of his penthouse office, pondering the
| future.
|
| "In a world increasingly reliant on instant information and
| instant solutions," he mused aloud, "it isn't far-fetched to
| believe that AI will not only supplement, but also redefine our
| interactions. I imagine a device - not necessarily a phone in
| the traditional sense - but an omnipresent companion, molding
| itself seamlessly into our daily lives."
|
| He imagined a slim, sleek device, devoid of buttons. Its
| surface would be smooth, reflective, giving off a gentle glow.
| It would be adaptive and intuitive, learning and understanding
| its user's preferences and habits. No longer would people have
| to spend time inputting data or even searching for answers. The
| device would provide not just answers but also anticipate
| needs, offering solutions before the user even recognized a
| problem.
|
| "Imagine," Carl whispered, "walking into a room and the device
| automatically adjusts the lighting based on your mood, perhaps
| playing soft ambient music in the background. And as you work,
| it sifts through documents, instantly pulling up relevant
| information, or perhaps even creating presentations on-the-fly,
| guided only by your voice or thoughts."
|
| He saw the potential for deeper human connection. With mundane
| tasks outsourced to the AI, people would have more time to
| engage in meaningful interactions, fostering relationships, and
| pursuing passions. But Carl also recognized potential
| challenges. The blurring line between man and machine could
| bring about questions of privacy, dependence, and even
| identity.
|
| "We are on the brink of an era where AI won't just assist but
| will become an extension of ourselves," he thought. He
| envisioned people discussing ideas with their AI, debating,
| learning, and growing together. This AI wouldn't be just a
| tool; it would be a partner.
|
| However, Carl was also wary. Such power in the hands of a
| device meant it would be a beacon for hackers and those with
| malicious intent. Moreover, the ethical considerations of
| creating an AI so deeply integrated into human life would be
| immense.
|
| Drawing a deep breath, Carl looked down at his own smartphone.
| "A relic," he chuckled. "In a decade or two, we'll look at
| these devices as we do now with rotary phones or fax machines."
|
| He took a sip of his tea, now lukewarm. "It's an exciting
| future," he whispered. "But one we need to step into with
| caution and consciousness."
|
| His assistant, a traditional machine, beeped, reminding him of
| his next meeting. Carl smiled, looking forward to the day his
| meetings would be scheduled, organized, and even anticipated by
| an AI that truly understood him.
| mysterydip wrote:
| > looking forward to the day his meetings would be scheduled,
| organized, and even anticipated by an AI that truly
| understood him.
|
| And then, knowing him so well, started attending the meetings
| in his place. Soon, Carl was out of a job, the subject matter
| expertise he brought to the company perfectly replicated and
| queryable.
| jimkoen wrote:
| It's terrifying but exciting nonetheless. It feels like I'm
| living during the times of Xerox Parc, with design studies like
| the Alto showing off what's possible on bleeding edge,
| stupendously expensive one-off hardware.
| ramesh31 wrote:
| >It feels like I'm living during the times of Xerox Parc,
| with design studies like the Alto showing off what's possible
| on bleeding edge, stupendously expensive one-off hardware.
|
| Except with the added benefit that all of the complexity now
| lies in software, rather than hardware. We've achieved what
| they set out to do with AI beyond their wildest dreams, and
| you can run it locally on a tablet sized device. No crazy
| hardware required.
| [deleted]
| tpmx wrote:
| I'm imagining a very elaborate microphone/speaker/camera/display
| device. Outer shell made using some exotic new ceramics process
| because glass, aluminum and titanium are all so 2023. Will never
| be mass-produced.
|
| Or textile. I could imagine them going for something cuddly to
| balance out that creepy AI vibe.
| tonetheman wrote:
| [dead]
| lifechoseme123 wrote:
| I'm with Ted K. on this one.
|
| CBDC -> No. Evil. To hell with evil.
|
| AI + Altman -> No. Evil. To hell with evil.
| dutchbrit wrote:
| Had to think of Silicon Valley:
| https://youtu.be/_GtF_zpJc_w?si=hgPEBLomzkpEA3ZW
| mellosouls wrote:
| This feels like a contemporary pop idol at the top of their game
| releasing a record with one of their heroes who used to be
| awesome 30 years ago.
|
| Great for marketing, but not always so much for creative
| brilliance.
| noman-land wrote:
| The Matchbox 20 and Santana song.
| blangk wrote:
| Man, it's a hot one
| lyapunova wrote:
| Why is it that tech brand names (including people like Altman)
| have just become so cursed?
|
| I feel like society at large is tired.
|
| Everyone buys the thing but basically does it because it's
| required to continue to play the game - not because it brings
| them joy.
| noman-land wrote:
| What game is it that is required? Opting out of bullshit social
| pressures is a step toward psychological freedom.
| hashtag-til wrote:
| Refreshing to see comment like this.
|
| Pro tip: ditch also Twitter/X, Insta, Facebook, TikTok and
| all that crap.
| bombcar wrote:
| Because everything is promised as the next iPhone or whatever,
| but they all turn out to be Segways.
| tactiledactyl wrote:
| [dead]
| jmcphers wrote:
| Prediction based on the history of these two luminaries of the
| industry: a beautiful, featureless orb that uses AI to
| autonomously scan your eyeballs and enroll you in crypto
| scams[1].
|
| [1] https://www.reuters.com/technology/scrutiny-iris-scanning-
| cr...
| Apocryphon wrote:
| They're going to build the Nexus Q
| anigbrowl wrote:
| It will be a simple sphere - an orb, if you will - and by simply
| waving one's hands around it in a mysterious yet compelling
| fashion, wondrous visions will appear. Comes with a purple velvet
| tablecloth.
| simondotau wrote:
| Signs point to yes.
| cs702 wrote:
| Whatever it turns out to be, it will surely be competition for
| Siri, Alexa, and Google Assistant.
|
| I'd call it the OpenAI Genie.
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