[HN Gopher] ChatGPT can now search the web in real time
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ChatGPT can now search the web in real time
Author : rntn
Score : 53 points
Date : 2023-09-27 20:44 UTC (2 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.theverge.com)
| skilled wrote:
| It's interesting that OpenAI themselves are not calling this "you
| can browse again" and also throwing in the "no longer limited by
| September 2021 cutoff" even though it is January 2022.
|
| Stinks to me like they are pulling a little marketing campaign to
| lure in new users and the media is happy to oblige to use the
| same language/phrasing.
|
| For reference, they disabled browsing because you could bypass
| paywalls with it.
| Someone1234 wrote:
| The Jan 2022 thing is likely not helpful anyway as it doesn't
| give higher weight to newer information (i.e. pre-2021 info
| could be returned even if Jan 2022 info may contradict it).
| simonw wrote:
| I wish they'd document the cut-off date properly.
|
| It's not strictly January 2022, because I've seen people get
| answers about the 2022 Superbowl (February 2022) and the Will
| Smith slap at the Oscars (March 2022) as well.
|
| Though I've been unable to replicate the Oscars one myself.
| samr71 wrote:
| Paywalls was why they removed that feature?? This is why I hate
| OpenAI as much as I love them. They deliver miracles, but seem
| to have a pathological urge to make their product worse.
| koolba wrote:
| > OpenAI posted today that ChatGPT can once more trawl the web
| for current information, offering answers taken directly from
| "current and authoritative" sources, which it cites in its
| responses.
|
| The list is apparently cited in responses, but is the list of
| possible sources itself public?
| simonw wrote:
| I imagine it's everything on the web that's been crawled by
| Bing and hasn't blocked ChatGPT explicitly in its robots.txt
| file.
| willsmith72 wrote:
| have openai's crawlers really paid attention to people's
| robots.txts?
| simonw wrote:
| Yes. There's even a project tracking which newspapers are
| blocking them here: https://palewi.re/docs/news-
| homepages/openai-gptbot-robotstx...
| input_sh wrote:
| Oh wow, getting 43.6% of newspapers to do anything
| collectively over a brief period of time is... definitely
| not an easy achievement.
| theshackleford wrote:
| It would appear so from the significant network of sites I
| am responsible for that have put such robots.txt changes
| into place.
| danShumway wrote:
| Did something change about their security model that I've missed?
| Won't this be just as vulnerable to the same poisoned website
| attacks that made them turn it off in the first place?
|
| _Edit: Ah, never mind, I 'm remembering wrong. They turned it
| off previously because it could bypass paywalls, not because of
| security concerns. So the answer is likely, "yes it is still just
| as insecure as ever, but now there are probably some checks to
| keep it from summarizing paywalled news articles." :shrug:_
| [deleted]
| vinni2 wrote:
| It seems to retrieve top-1 result from Bing. Doesn't give any
| options to customize search or provide search constraints. Also
| failed due to technical or browsing errors a few times. Needs
| improvement.
| benjamoon wrote:
| Duplicate: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37680673
| ilikeitdark wrote:
| I've been able to do that for over 25 years.
| [deleted]
| samspenc wrote:
| Took me a few seconds to realize this was a reference to
| Google's 25th 'birthday' :) https://blog.google/inside-
| google/company-announcements/goog...
| lukasb wrote:
| edit: enable in settings, log out+in, mouse over "GPT-4" at the
| top
|
| Hm, is this available in the web app?
| knolan wrote:
| You enable it in settings then turn it on from the GPT 4 menu
| like when you enable a plugin.
| eshack94 wrote:
| Yes.
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