[HN Gopher] Linux from Scratch Version 12.0
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       Linux from Scratch Version 12.0
        
       Author : TeeMassive
       Score  : 93 points
       Date   : 2023-09-25 18:56 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | 120bits wrote:
       | LFS taught me so many things in my beginning for software
       | engineer career(2011). 5 years later, we moved to minimal
       | centos7.
       | 
       | I also remember working on getting LFS work on AWS EC2 back then.
        
       | goodroot wrote:
       | Kickstarted my career. Love this project. Congrats on the
       | release!
        
       | organsnyder wrote:
       | It's been around two decades since I last did an LFS install, but
       | I still find the knowledge I gained to be useful to understanding
       | how boot loaders, the kernel, init systems, etc. work today--not
       | just bare metal and VMs, but also in containerized environments.
        
         | ghotli wrote:
         | Same, I'm closing in on twenty years since I did it on a
         | Pentium 2 (which took a very long time to compile). But in a
         | matter of weeks I had my own linux router that I built from
         | scratch.
         | 
         | I was too much of a novice to completely understand everything
         | I did but over time the puzzle pieces fit together and I
         | realized it was just about the most solid foundation I could
         | have engaged in. I'd suggest it to anyone that interacts with
         | Linux and the time requirement to compile everything is far,
         | far less than it was years back.
        
         | varikin wrote:
         | I spent a couple weeks planning a LFS install about 20 years
         | ago. I then didn't have time to look at it all for about year,
         | so I never went through with it. But I still learned a lot just
         | documenting all steps and preparing with the worse case of not
         | having decent internet if something went wrong.
        
         | placatedmayhem wrote:
         | Same. Any time I'm asked a question like "How can I better
         | understand Linux?" by someone new, I tell the person asking to
         | do LFS and to take the time to understand it. Even some long-
         | time system admins and software devs would benefit greatly.
        
         | smitty1e wrote:
         | I regularly point the n00bs to this site to level up.
        
       | Agingcoder wrote:
       | I didn't know lfs was still around. The last time I played with
       | it was around 2003-2004 I think.
        
       | nxobject wrote:
       | Hard mode: try to bring up LFS on a non-x86 platform; preferably
       | something without a standard device bus like PCI-e or USB. For
       | example, a 68k Mac...
        
       | ahs1 wrote:
       | nice! i'm currently running LFS 6.7, any good reasons to update?
        
       | gabereiser wrote:
       | Yessssss... this is the news we need.
        
       | ktm5j wrote:
       | Building LFS was probably the best single learning experience
       | I've ever had! I built it in highschool and got credit for an
       | independent learning project. Taught me a lot of things that
       | turned out to be useful in finding myself a career.
        
       | pgraf wrote:
       | Does anyone know if anything similar exists for Windows? Of
       | course it would be hard due to the closed nature of it, but a
       | similar in-deth look into Windows internals would be much
       | appreciated for a UNIX guy like me.
        
         | xuhu wrote:
         | Installing LFS is a ritual, a manifestation of the belief in
         | free software. In order to affirm allegiance to the corporate
         | world, installing Windows 11 with all telemetry enabled and an
         | online account might be more appropriate.
        
           | drekipus wrote:
           | And clicking "buy now" on every ad that shows up during the
           | process
        
         | miki123211 wrote:
         | Not as a hands-on project I don't think, for the reasons you
         | listed, but there are books that do explain these things, and
         | are probably the closest to what you want.
         | 
         | For Windows: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-
         | us/sysinternals/resources/win...
         | 
         | and for Mac/iOS: https://newosxbook.com
         | 
         | Those are official sites, the books themselves can also be
         | found elsewhere if you get my meaning.
        
         | mdaniel wrote:
         | Not exactly what you're asking, but you may get much closer by
         | bringing up ReactOS from scratch:
         | https://reactos.org/wiki/Building_ReactOS
        
       | constantlm wrote:
       | Awesome that this is still around. I learned an ton about how
       | Linux works from doing an LFS install circa 2005 that's still
       | useful to me today.
        
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