[HN Gopher] A magnificent 1850s house dubbed the Blue Belle of B...
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A magnificent 1850s house dubbed the Blue Belle of Brooklyn
Author : samclemens
Score : 66 points
Date : 2023-09-22 22:31 UTC (1 days ago)
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| dang wrote:
| [stub for sweeping offtopicness under the rug]
| voidfunc wrote:
| Nice house, don't actually think it is supposed to be painted
| that color - looks dumb with that blue on it.
| [deleted]
| Aeolun wrote:
| That is some eye searing blue. I appreciate the whimsical
| nature of it, but I wouldn't want it on my own house.
| susodapop wrote:
| I just moved to Brooklyn and have seen this property. Stories
| like this are precisely what gives this city texture and
| excitement. Just about every visible feature has a long and
| compelling history.
| mikegioia wrote:
| I lived on 10th street and 4th avenue for a few years and I used
| to walk past this house frequently. I love it, and I love
| Brooklyn and the entire feeling the city has. I miss it so much
| and this article has really taken me back there.
| ughitsaaron wrote:
| Apropos of nothing about the house, I'm confused why someone
| would use the "Antebellum era" to periodize something in New
| York?
| jonahbenton wrote:
| I dunno, the wars are good bookends/shorthands for eras in NYC.
|
| "Pre-war" is a term of art in real estate, meaning post-
| WW1/pre-WW2, when the first big apartment buildings went up.
| Many of these buildings were the work of craft and are
| desirable residences today.
|
| "Post-war" is also a term of art- post WW2- and generally means
| ugly/junky, in real estate terms.
|
| Many of the brownstone/single family townhouse/rowhouse
| neighborhoods were built before and around the WW 1 time frame,
| 1890s to 1920s.
|
| The need to refer to it is infrequent, but "antebellum"-
| literally also "pre-war"- is recognizable for pre- but
| proximate to the Civil War. The Civil War was so momentous, it
| deserves its own latin reference, lol. In real estate terms few
| structures remain of course, but it is helpful in terms of
| history to distinguish from the Revolutionary period (1760s to
| 1790s) and the immediate post-Revolutionary period, when tons
| of things happened. 1810 in Manhattan was when the grid plan
| was laid down and that period through the 1840s saw a huge
| population boom and the initial transition of NYC real estate
| from home/workshop of artisans to predominantly income
| production.
| gumby wrote:
| Was the state of New York not a combatant in that war (Brooklyn
| was not yet part of New York City; at that time the city was
| only Manhattan).
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| Also that war had a major impact on NYC, as that city (and
| Boston) were the major sources of slave mortgages, which were
| all invalidated at the end of the war.
| gcanyon wrote:
| Because they know that word, and not another more
| geographically relevant word for the time period?
|
| They could have just repeatedly said "the 1850s" but they
| wanted to be more diverse. Kind of like how "temblor" gets
| hauled out every time someone writes about earthquakes.
|
| I'm super-curious if you know of a term for the 1850s that is
| geographically relevant to New York, or the region?
| ughitsaaron wrote:
| Mid-19th century?
| pixl97 wrote:
| The term doesn't have much cultural recognition in the US.
| [deleted]
| anjel wrote:
| Mid-Tammany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammany_Hall
| tr3ntg wrote:
| Is the door actually off center or is that just every single
| photo making it appear that way?
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