[HN Gopher] A genetic study has revised the narrative about how ...
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A genetic study has revised the narrative about how wine grapes
spread
Author : Brajeshwar
Score : 62 points
Date : 2023-09-21 14:57 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| otar wrote:
| Software developer and aspiring 7th generation winemaker from
| Georgia (Republic of) here.
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| We're proud of Georgia being one of the oldest wine producing
| regions. In fact, it is called Cradle of Wine for a reason. Per
| Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine#History): > The
| earliest known traces of wine are from Georgia (c. 6000 BCE).
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| Also, traditional Georgian winemaking is something worth
| exploring if you're a wine enthusiast: wine being made in the
| large clay pots (Qvevri) buried in the ground. Long
| maceration/skin-contact, 500+ endemic grape varieties, etc...
|
| P.S. Check out the website of my family's small winery:
| https://www.chekura.wine
| asdff wrote:
| Any ancient varietals still in cultivation?
| cpursley wrote:
| As somebody's who traveled to Georgia, I can't recommend
| visiting enough. Amazing food and wine, culture and sights.
| teruakohatu wrote:
| Your website says 'We expect our wines to be ready for bottling
| by the end of 2021'. How did they turn out?
| VK538FY wrote:
| Awesome that your family has resumed traditional methods with
| what I imagine to be traditional grape varieties. The subject
| fascinates me.
|
| On a similar note, there are a handful of wine producing
| countries whose products are very hard to find in the west. I
| suppose that they would be less special if one could buy them
| everywhere but still... lots to discover. Sante!
| seatac76 wrote:
| How interesting. Would you happen to know any good labels and
| vintages that might be available for purchase in the US?
| reducesuffering wrote:
| Georgian winemaking has very old roots and is underappreciated
| internationally. Great place to visit if you want to sip and talk
| good wine around many other wine lovers (lots of home grown cha
| cha too)
| madcaptenor wrote:
| To clarify: Tbilisi, not Atlanta. (People in Georgia, US try to
| grow wine but it is not good.)
| VyseofArcadia wrote:
| Actually, West Georgia/East Alabama had a history of wine
| production before prohibition. It's very slowly coming back
| as century-old alcohol laws slowly get repealed. (And then
| unrepealed, and then rerepealed. It's been rocky.)
|
| You might be better off trying wines made with the muscadine,
| North America's own native grape, as it tends to handle hot
| and humid conditions better than traditional wine grapes.
| fsckboy wrote:
| I am super into the international wine scene, and I have
| friends who are super into the international wine scene, and
| these friends are actually graduate students studying the
| Georgian language, and they spend significant time in Georgia.
| Georgian wine--I won't classify it as good or bad but rather--
| is concentrated, thick, and rich. If that's your flavor
| profile, go for it.
|
| winemaking around the world has changed dramatically in over
| the last 40 years due to much more sophisticated university
| study and programs in winemaking. Much more control can now be
| exercised over the winemaking process to ensure the profile you
| want, on top of the essential nature of the terroir involved. I
| don't know how much Georgia is participating in this process or
| if it remains traditional.
|
| Italian wine forty years ago was generally pretty horrible, and
| now it is my favorite. To me, it's not a matter of
| parochialism, just the flavor profile I like. That period of
| time generally represents the younger university educated
| children inheriting the vineyards from the "farmer" older
| generations.
| dang wrote:
| [stub for sweeping offtopicness under the rug]
| madcaptenor wrote:
| This is the reverse of last week's "Why Fennel?":
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37497131
| Rebelgecko wrote:
| TYFYS
| jdlyga wrote:
| Is it a bad sign that I thought of this first:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
| devonnull wrote:
| You're not the only one who did ...
| arielpts wrote:
| not me thinking about the "not emulator" first, and I drink it!
| mayormcmatt wrote:
| Right there with you!
| _0xdd wrote:
| Had the same reaction. Was hoping for some mid-90s wine
| screenshots!
| jsight wrote:
| Yeah, I was expecting an interview with Bob Amstadt and Eric
| Youngdale.
| JohnKemeny wrote:
| Corrected link: https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine_History
| RVRX wrote:
| This is more along the lines of what I was expecting lol
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